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illmatic99 said:
After 10 yrs of dealing with a coach repeating over and over again that the other team simply made shots, i find this refreshing. i can see how it could wear on the players, but these schemes make it clear as day who the culprits are. the strategy is not that complicated and the players don't need to be coddled like they were before.
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Well, scoreboard. You may like it, but it's not working.
 
illmatic99 said:
nothing too groundbreaking so far-- first 20 min or so were Blazer related. The moves initially will be to see if they can upgrade Roco/Nurk with existing roster. Return for Roco (if they can't get a direct upgrade) might be a first round pick value. Mentioned Utah specifically as someone that might see Roco as a missing piece that Portland can extract a pick from. Dame has historically been a roadblock to CJ moves-- that has decidedly changed now and CJ is fully aware of it. There is a faction in CJ's camp that might also be open to a move. Morey is steadfast in not trading Ben for CJ because he doesn't to give Dame what he wants.

Also might be unrelated, but Pacers firesale is coming. Pacers expecting a Vucevic-like return for Sabonis. Everyone is on the block except for their rookies and Brogdan (who is ineligible to be traded).
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We can still get a 1st for RoCo? They should take that yesterday. That's what I thought we could do if the acquisition did not go well, but I didn't think it would still be possible with the way he's played so far.

Problem is Utah has no salary to match for RoCo. Ingles? He's better. O'Neale? Same.

Whiteside + Gay + Azubuike work but thats two rotation guys for one.
 
illmatic99 said:
Morey is steadfast in not trading Ben for CJ because he doesn't to give Dame what he wants.
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Lmao I can’t wait until he bails on another team right before they have to go in rebuild mode because of his failures.
 
They have not interviewed or reached out to any external candidates with any official capacity right now, and the names floating out there are those with connections to various factions in the franchise (either Billups or Dame or ownership). Other names will surface as they begin the search but it has not yet started.

Not gonna be Ainge and it will be someone younger and/or a potential minority (either black or a woman).
 
B-Roy said:
We can still get a 1st for RoCo? They should take that yesterday. That's what I thought we could do if the acquisition did not go well, but I didn't think it would still be possible with the way he's played so far.

Problem is Utah has no salary to match for RoCo. Ingles? He's better. O'Neale? Same.

Whiteside + Gay + Azubuike work but thats two rotation guys for one.
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he mentioned Utah specifically, then NY, and missed the third team (i was working on stuff when he said it) as teams that might still hold him in high regard because they want 3&d wings, and he was considered one of the premier 3&d guys when Portland acquired him.
 
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illmatic99 said:
They have not interviewed or reached out to any external candidates with any official capacity right now, and the names floating out there are those with connections to various factions in the franchise (either Billups or Dame or ownership). Other names will surface as they begin the search but it has not yet started.

Not gonna be Ainge and it will be someone younger and/or a potential minority (either black or a woman).
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Warriors did pretty damn good with a gay man.
 
Trigger warning: this will no doubt anger just about everybody here. Whatever.

What is the point of promoting from within to be interim GM if the guy will not, cannot, or is forbidden to make the moves everybody knows need to be made? The only point to having Cronin assume the title is that he has been here for years and already knows what needs doing. Can anybody point to one shred of evidence the team is doing anything other than standing pat? Billups can be judged after 25 games, but after a decade or more Cronin still needs time?

What a frickin' joke this franchise has become.
 
illmatic99 said:
he mentioned Utah specifically, then NY, and missed the third team (i was working on stuff when he said it) as teams that might still hold him in high regard because they want 3&d wings, and he was considered one of the premiere 3&d guys when Portland acquired him.
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Roco is still good when locked in, we see flashes of it. Easy to convince yourself he just needs a change of scenery.
 
Scalma said:
Roco is still good when locked in, we see flashes of it. Easy to convince yourself he just needs a change of scenery.
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he's been our 10th man this season. and i can't figure out what his problem is. i thought he'd be great in this defensive style flying around, getting deflections. he's been so disengaged.
 
illmatic99 said:
he's been our 10th man this season. and i can't figure out what his problem is. i thought he'd be great in this defensive style flying around, getting deflections. he's been so disengaged.
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saw numerous possessions last night where we saw all the good stuff. This isn’t a case of a guy losing his ability. He’s just not locked in mentally with any sort of consistency. He’s probably the guy I’ve seen out of position the most, which is ridiculous considering who he is.
 
illmatic99 said:
he mentioned Utah specifically, then NY, and missed the third team (i was working on stuff when he said it) as teams that might still hold him in high regard because they want 3&d wings, and he was considered one of the premier 3&d guys when Portland acquired him.
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Well if they've watched him he's no longer 3 and no longer D.
 
B-Roy said:
Well if they've watched him he's no longer 3 and no longer D.
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His steal and block percentages are in line with his career percentages, and he was over 36% (which is his career avg) from three before yesterday’s game.
 
Scalma said:
His steal and block percentages are in line with his career percentages, and he was over 36% (which is his career avg) from three before yesterday’s game.
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His defense is completely shot. He has the footspeed of a center. He was never good man to man but now he's like Melo. He stood up PG once last game, great. PG also waltzed right past him for a dunk that sealed the game (while RoCo looked behind at his teammates for not helping him). If they can get anything of value for him they absolutely should.
 
Now Zach Lowe has a podcast. Says Philly has no interest in CJ.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Trigger warning: this will no doubt anger just about everybody here. Whatever.

What is the point of promoting from within to be interim GM if the guy will not, cannot, or is forbidden to make the moves everybody knows need to be made? The only point to having Cronin assume the title is that he has been here for years and already knows what needs doing. Can anybody point to one shred of evidence the team is doing anything other than standing pat? Billups can be judged after 25 games, but after a decade or more Cronin still needs time?

What a frickin' joke this franchise has become.
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Damn man, the dude has had the job for less than a week and he's already supposed to have pulled off the deal of the century. There is no reason to think that the rest of the FO was in lockstep with Neil's assessment of CJ. There are also a lot of reasons including the meeting that Cronin, Chauncey and Dame had, to think that Cronin will not stand pat with a team visibly struggling on the court and with a sub .500 record.
 
Interim person is usually someone within the organization. Not necessarily nefarious.
 
Pelton makes an interesting point regarding us:

The trade that has shaped our franchise for the last 10 years happened when we were at a crossroads with our team. We came off a few years of playoff runs, had a star. And traded pieces around the star for what ended up being Damian Lillard. Could we get lucky again?
 
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B-Roy said:
Pelton makes an interesting point regarding us:

The trade that has shaped our franchise for the last 10 years happened when we were at a crossroads with our team. We came off a few years of playoff runs, had a star. And traded pieces around the star for what ended up being Damian Lillard. Could we get lucky again?
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Not sure there's any more Billy King's left in the league, unfortunately.
 
Quick:


What does this mean for McCollum?
Jason Quick, Blazers Beat Writer: Neither McCollum nor the Blazers know the extent of the injury yet — there are still more tests to do in the coming days — but the early indications are this will not be a long-term injury.

Does a long-term injury force the Blazers to consider a rebuild sooner?
Quick: It's too early to tell: One, the team is hopeful this isn't a long-term injury. And second, the team is not anxious to unload McCollum because they value him as a player and a person. The circumstances around the Blazers — the president resigning, the general manager fired, and the rough start under new coach Chauncey Billups — has certainly created an unsteady future, but a source said a course has yet to be determined for the franchise. If there are two words that can sum up the Blazers' future: Stay tuned.
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I don’t believe this. Quick was fed this for leverage in a CJ trade.
 
Scalma said:
Quick:


What does this mean for McCollum?
Jason Quick, Blazers Beat Writer: Neither McCollum nor the Blazers know the extent of the injury yet — there are still more tests to do in the coming days — but the early indications are this will not be a long-term injury.

Does a long-term injury force the Blazers to consider a rebuild sooner?
Quick: It's too early to tell: One, the team is hopeful this isn't a long-term injury. And second, the team is not anxious to unload McCollum because they value him as a player and a person. The circumstances around the Blazers — the president resigning, the general manager fired, and the rough start under new coach Chauncey Billups — has certainly created an unsteady future, but a source said a course has yet to be determined for the franchise. If there are two words that can sum up the Blazers' future: Stay tuned.
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I don’t believe this. Quick was fed this for leverage in a CJ trade.
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Where is this from?
 
Minstrel said:
When you blast the players, you're doing what Olshey did--passing the buck. "I'm doing a great job, everyone around me is the problem." And before you say you don't think he's consciously trying to deflect blame--it doesn't matter. That's how it comes across and as a thinking adult human being, he should be aware of that. If he lacks even that basic awareness, he shouldn't be in a job that involves managing other people.
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I just don’t think blatant lack of effort and competitiveness by professional athletes deserves coddling, or being concerned with their feelings about being called out. Grow up. Do your job that you are paid ungodly amounts for. This is part of their problem. Bunch of non competitive guys lacking pride.
 
I don't think CJ will be moved until the offseason. I think RoCo and Nurk are gone.
 
Freshtown said:
Confirmations of Neil’s delusion:

“Olshey believed the Blazers were constructed well enough to compete in the Western Conference and had little interest in parting ways with McCollum”

Great. His final FU to the franchise was not making a move for Simmons, which was possible over the summer, and is now much harder and/or impossible because now:

  • cj looks horrible
  • Roco looks washed
  • Maxey and curry look great
All things we could have avoided this summer.
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CJ looks horrible? He’s averaging 20 ppg on 40% 3 pt shooting. That’s like 2x the 3p% of Lillard this year. Wtf are you Lillard cultists talking about?
 
Hold Dame’s Jockstrap said:
CJ looks horrible? He’s averaging 20 ppg on 40% 3 pt shooting. That’s like 2x the 3p% of Lillard this year. Wtf are you Lillard cultists talking about?
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He has the lowest TS% since his rookie season. He has a good 3pt% but his 2pt% is in the toilet, his free throws attempted have decreased as well as his ft%. He is also posting the worst DBPM of his career meaning his defense is worse than ever. The fact that Lillard is bad doesn't mean anything for CJ. He is horrible.
 
GDiama said:
He has the lowest TS% since his rookie season. He has a good 3pt% but his 2pt% is in the toilet, his free throws attempted have decreased as well as his ft%. He is also posting the worst DBPM of his career meaning his defense is worse than ever. The fact that Lillard is bad doesn't mean anything for CJ. He is horrible.
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The great thing about advanced statistics is you can always find a stat to cherry pick to support your stupid argument with confirmation bias.

his defense is worse than ever? Have you even watched a single game this year? His defense has been great. He is getting a block and a steal basically every game and has made huge improvements in 1v1 defense. But go ahead and blame him for Lillard’s failures, as usual.

Maybe you should learn to appreciate players like CJ who actually care about winning and aren’t demanding 55 million dollars PER YEAR when they are 37 years old as a condition to stay with the team?
 
Hold Dame’s Jockstrap said:
The great thing about advanced statistics is you can always find a stat to cherry pick to support your stupid argument with confirmation bias.

his defense is worse than ever? Have you even watched a single game this year? His defense has been great. He is getting a block and a steal basically every game and has made huge improvements in 1v1 defense. But go ahead and blame him for Lillard’s failures, as usual.

Maybe you should learn to appreciate players like CJ who actually care about winning and aren’t demanding 55 million dollars when they are 37 years old as a condition to stay with the team?
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Maybe pay your ophthalmologist a visit. Tell him you see great defense by CJ. He won't even run tests.
 
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