Flag Burning hubbub (3 Viewers)

[barfo]

Let's see. CNBC economics writers vs. Barfo who's demonstrated a poor understanding of economics.

I'll go with CNBC.

Go ahead, no skin off my nose. Being misinformed is surely quite an asset for a full-time Trump apologist such as yourself.

Those interested in facts might want to read any one of a number of more substantial articles, such as this one from the Failing New York Times.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Go ahead, no skin off my nose. Being misinformed is surely quite an asset for a full-time Trump apologist such as yourself.

Those interested in facts might want to read any one of a number of more substantial articles, such as this one from the Failing New York Times.

barfo

Being misinformed. Obviously it doesn't take one to know one. Thanks for pointing it out.

Multinationals based in the United States now hold more than $1.6 trillion in cash classified as “permanently invested overseas.” These funds will face the 35 percent federal corporate tax only if it is returned to the country.

The companies say that they need to shield their money overseas, however, because the official corporate rate of 35 percent is the highest in the world and puts them at a competitive disadvantage. And while the offshore money may be in American banks and controlled from home, executives say it would be irresponsible to return the money to their shareholders or invest it in the United States because of the high tax rate.
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[dviss1]

Yet, 50% ish voted for her. If they had true convictions they would have not voted, or voted green, much like I think you did.

Wrong again. If I lived in:

OH, FL, WI, MI, PA

I'd have held my nose and be forced to vote for Clinton. Because FUCK Trump.

 

[MickZagger]

Your Facebook conservative friends don't know what they are talking about huh?

Didn't you say you work for UPS or FedEx? And have already made over 90 grand this year doing a 100 percent unskilled job? I can see how one would be so far out of touch with reality in that case. Those good Carrier jobs Trump supposedly saved don't make anything near that.

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I do. Working for a Union is great. I work for UPS. FedEx is non-union and get away with paying their employees shit wages. Like most of the country, paying employees shit wages has become acceptable. I spent 5 and a half years as a PT employee to get a crack at what I do now. One of the best jobs out there without a college degree. Hell, you don't even need a high school diploma. You should get a union job and then maybe you wouldn't be so unhappy.

There's 2 kinds of people who hate Unions. Jealous people who are bitter about our wages and great benefits. Or, the corporate people who want a couple extra mil on their end of the year salary.

The company makes money hand over fist and every quarter sets record for earnings. I work my ass off and do a job that physically puts a wear and tear on your body.

Your tears are too salty. I'm having a hard time understanding what your point is again.

 

[blue32]

Wrong again. If I lived in:

OH, FL, WI, MI, PA

I'd have held my nose and be forced to vote for Clinton. Because FUCK Trump.

Keep rocking that identity politics stance and continue to watch the democrats lose.

 

[MickZagger]

Keep rocking that identity politics stance and continue to watch the democrats lose.

Identity politics? LOL

The irony

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Corporations are people

it's the other way around, people are corporations. take a look at your 9 digit tax ID number and get back to me.

 

[blue32]

Identity politics? LOL

The irony

Well, do tell. Because many a political pundit has observed (and spoken about) this behavior by the left and have attributed it to their demise. So please sir, explain why you disagree with the political "professionals" on this topic.

 

[Denny Crane]

it's the other way around, people are corporations. take a look at your 9 digit tax ID number and get back to me.

People are slaves to government.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Keep rocking that identity politics stance and continue to watch the democrats lose.

"Fuck Trump" has nothing to do with so-called "identity politics." You don't have to be part of some aggrieved minority or "snowflake" to be turned off by his bellicosity and nativist rhetoric and frankly, poor understanding of the Bill of Rights.

 

[MarAzul]

There's 2 kinds of people who hate Unions. Jealous people who are bitter about our wages and great benefits.

Well there is a third kind that love Unions. Where the Union hold power, there is the probability of inefficiency, a ready made market for automation equipment or using computers to reduce
repetitive and redundant process. People should love the Union that put the Port of Portland out of business. Ha! Actually it was the liberal management that didn't fire the Union workers
that reached too far, that did in the Port of Portland.

 

[blue32]

"Fuck Trump" has nothing to do with so-called "identity politics." You don't have to be part of some aggrieved minority or "snowflake" to be turned off by his bellicosity and nativist rhetoric and frankly, poor understanding of the Bill of Rights.

I agree with you about your "fuck trump" statement.

But that person in particular who I quoted, has made claims about the Trump supporters, which fall inline with the identity politics game the left plays... I've been victim of that person's rhetoric before. Which is fine, but just understand it does nothing for the Democratic party in the long run. The wedge between one half of America and the other just goes deeper and deeper. Just as the Professor explained in that video that was posted on here, Joe Rogan's one.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I agree with you about your "fuck trump" statement.

But that person in particular who I quoted, has made claims about the Trump supporters, which fall inline with the identity politics game the left plays... I've been victim of that person's rhetoric before. Which is fine, but just understand it does nothing for the Democratic party in the long run. The wedge between one half of America and the other just goes deeper and deeper. Just as the Professor explained in that video that was posted on here, Joe Rogan's one.

That wedge gets "deeper and deeper" because we're all responsible in our own way for coarsening our dialogue. Whether we want to admit it or not, words matter and and how we fight matters.

 

[e_blazer]

Pretty good statement on the flag-burning kerfuffle, IMHO:

 

[Jade Falcon]

No such a thing as a bisexual man. You're either straight or gay. You mean you give, but don't recieve? Do you keep a women as an option to ease your political affiliation.
My stance has always been that if you have sexual thoughts about another man, that you are gay. Bisexual is a neat card to play though.

Good for you. It's nice to have opinions; flawed though they are.

The LGBT Community includes Bisexuals. But I'm sure you know more about sexual orientation than they do. Feel free to take it up with them.

 

[stampedehero]

The last time I heard of a flag burner he was a Navy Seal special Ops target.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...flag-is-awful-but-lawful/stories/201612310060

Scalia’s wisdom: Burning the U.S. flag is awful, but lawful

“Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag,” President-elect Donald Trump tweeted Tuesday. “If they do, there must be consequences — perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!”

“If I were king,” the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia once said in an interview, “I would not allow people to go about burning the American flag. However, we have a First Amendment, which says that the right of free speech shall not be abridged. … Burning the flag is a form of expression. Speech doesn’t just mean written words or oral words. … Burning a flag is a symbol that expresses an idea.”

Justice Scalia was part of the 1989 Supreme Court majority that held that flag-burning was protected by the First Amendment. Revoking citizenship for flag-burning would be unconstitutional.

 

[MickZagger]

Good for you. It's nice to have opinions; flawed though they are.

The LGBT Community includes Bisexuals. But I'm sure you know more about sexual orientation than they do. Feel free to take it up with them.

Its a cop out. It tries to take a little of the guilt out of being gay.

I have a gay brother, I have no problem with people that are gay whatsoever, I'm pretty close with my brother. Its the facade and not coming out that I have a problem with. Be true to yourself. I have a close female friend that just recently found out the man she had a kid with a couple years ago was actually gay. Whenever I was around the guy he acted like a "mans' man". Rode a Harley, full sleeve tattoos, posters of naked chicks in his garage. Guy in his early 50's and she's about 30. They bought a house together, had a kid together (one of the few times they've had sex according to her). She runs a daycare out of the house. Come to find out the guy is as gay as it gets. Was putting ads on Craigslist and taking it in the pooper. Now she's STUCK. All because of this guys selfish need to remain to be seen as a hetero by his friends and family. He doesn't even like girls.

If you're gay, you're gay. I don't believe in being bisexual. I think its some kind of strange cop out.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Its a cop out. It tries to take a little of the guilt out of being gay.

I have a gay brother, I have no problem with people that are gay whatsoever, I'm pretty close with my brother. Its the facade and not coming out that I have a problem with. Be true to yourself. I have a close female friend that just recently found out the man she had a kid with a couple years ago was actually gay. Whenever I was around the guy he acted like a "mans' man". Rode a Harley, full sleeve tattoos, posters of naked chicks in his garage. Guy in his early 50's and she's about 30. They bought a house together, had a kid together (one of the few times they've had sex according to her). She runs a daycare out of the house. Come to find out the guy is as gay as it gets. Was putting ads on Craigslist and taking it in the pooper. Now she's STUCK. All because of this guys selfish need to remain to be seen as a hetero by his friends and family. He doesn't even like girls.

If you're gay, you're gay. I don't believe in being bisexual. I think its some kind of strange cop out.

Can women be bisexual?

 

[MickZagger]

Can women be bisexual?

I do. Because women fall in love for a different reasons. Its more platonic and then it turns sexual.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Its a cop out. It tries to take a little of the guilt out of being gay.

I have a gay brother, I have no problem with people that are gay whatsoever, I'm pretty close with my brother. Its the facade and not coming out that I have a problem with. Be true to yourself. I have a close female friend that just recently found out the man she had a kid with a couple years ago was actually gay. Whenever I was around the guy he acted like a "mans' man". Rode a Harley, full sleeve tattoos, posters of naked chicks in his garage. Guy in his early 50's and she's about 30. They bought a house together, had a kid together (one of the few times they've had sex according to her). She runs a daycare out of the house. Come to find out the guy is as gay as it gets. Was putting ads on Craigslist and taking it in the pooper. Now she's STUCK. All because of this guys selfish need to remain to be seen as a hetero by his friends and family. He doesn't even like girls.

If you're gay, you're gay. I don't believe in being bisexual. I think its some kind of strange cop out.

LMAO, what a bunch of crap. What's next? Are you gonna tell Dviss that you know what it's like to be black because you have a black friend?

I did consider myself gay at one time around 2006. It was a lot of soul searching and talking to people before I decided "no, I'm still attracted to females, as well as males." And I was very comfortable with that, and I embraced my sexuality.

That's called BISEXUAL. It IS an orientation.

Like I said: it's great to have opinions...flawed though they are. So good for you.

 

[stampedehero]

If I saw Anyone burn our flag I would assist in spiking a flag pole up their ass along with all the others who feel like I do. When these morons burn the American flag they do so only to gain personal attention. A mild beating in the nearest alley would help our psychologically damaged egos and suit their need to gain attention. However, flag burning intentions always ignite in a crowd of mis guided pissed off people in their foreign country. How about we cut off their foreign aid.

 

[stampedehero]

I am a firm supporter of free speech.

What I have a problem with is.
Radical Muslims burning our flag in their country, then, when a non-Muslim says something negative about their Koran, they put a hit out on them. I say play by their rules in their country. If a Muslim burns our flag in their country, drop a cruise missile on their heads.

Cruise missiles cost $$. Why not use a Chinese made $35 drone and crash it into their heads with chemicals on board

 

[rasheedfan2005]

LMAO, what a bunch of crap. What's next? Are you gonna tell Dviss that you know what it's like to be black because you have a black friend?

I did consider myself gay at one time around 2006. It was a lot of soul searching and talking to people before I decided "no, I'm still attracted to females, as well as males." And I was very comfortable with that, and I embraced my sexuality.

That's called BISEXUAL. It IS an orientation.

Like I said: it's great to have opinions...flawed though they are. So good for you.

i kind of envy you tbh. i dont find males physically attractive at all but men are the only people that dont piss me off with every word they speak. if i could find a man with tits and a coochie id fall in love. wait, that exists doesnt it?

 

[blue32]

i kind of envy you tbh. i dont find males physically attractive at all but men are the only people that dont piss me off with every word they speak. if i could find a man with tits and a coochie id fall in love. wait, that exists doesnt it?

Borat did love his back-pussy.

 

[MickZagger]

LMAO, what a bunch of crap. What's next? Are you gonna tell Dviss that you know what it's like to be black because you have a black friend?

I did consider myself gay at one time around 2006. It was a lot of soul searching and talking to people before I decided "no, I'm still attracted to females, as well as males." And I was very comfortable with that, and I embraced my sexuality.

That's called BISEXUAL. It IS an orientation.

Like I said: it's great to have opinions...flawed though they are. So good for you.

Not.

Buying.

It.

Being "bisexual" is a choice, depending on the day I guess. Being black is not.

The girl I'm seeing right now is actually black.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Not.

Buying.

It.

Being "bisexual" is a choice, depending on the day I guess. Being black is not.

The girl I'm seeing right now is actually black.

I don't give a shit if you buy it or not. It's a designated Sexuality, so deal with it. It's no more a choice for me than being Hispanic.

I love how this is the one thing you choose to whine about on here. Nevermind the original topic; no. You've chosen to rant about my sexuality on here like a fucking child.

That's hilarious.

Shall I remind people how this started?

So I posted this response in a reply to Denny about his post which had NOTHING to do with LGBT. Nothing. Nada. Zip.:

I agree with this. At the same time, it's hard for me to have any pity for assholes like this:

Who wrote this garbage:

I have zero pity for these people if they get arrested.

Now, NOWHERE in there did I consider the guy's sexuality. Never crossed my mind. Not once.

Chris then responded with:

you homophobic?

Which was a REAL fucking stupid thing to say, and I let it be known.

Oh yes....I'm a Bisexual man who's homophobic. Fucking moron.

Not sure where Chris got the idea that I was homophobic with that post, but whatever....there you go. So life went on, and the thread continued.

About 60 posts later.....without even acknowledging the current topic.....here comes this Darwin Candidate:

No such a thing as a bisexual man. You're either straight or gay. You mean you give, but don't recieve? Do you keep a women as an option to ease your political affiliation.
My stance has always been that if you have sexual thoughts about another man, that you are gay. Bisexual is a neat card to play though.

.....what? That was my response.

And then he has the audacity to lecture me about his stance on being Bisexual....based on the fact that his brother is gay.

Its a cop out. It tries to take a little of the guilt out of being gay.

I have a gay brother, I have no problem with people that are gay whatsoever, I'm pretty close with my brother.

You know....like he can lecture black people on what it's like to be black based on his girlfriend being black. That's the logic of his reasoning here.

This started on page 4. This is page 9, and he's still got a hair up his ass about this.

I gotta say, this has REALLY become grossly personal and unnecessary here. Hey Short Bus, can you please get back on the CURRENT TOPIC and contribute something of value here, rather than showing everyone that you only believe in the existence of 3/4ths of the LGBT Community? Because NOBODY here cares about your opinion on this matter. An opinion, by the way, which is based in disdain, and not in FACT.

Christ Almighty. You've officially lost all credibility of even beginning to call yourself a Liberal. Good luck reaching out to the LGBT Community with that kind of attitude!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

my stance is that gay people are highly evolved, thats why they dont have kids. Their biology is saving the world from overpopulation via natural selection. in the future everyone will be gay and even the trees will wear fabulous scarves in the fall.

Bisexual people are even more evolved, part alien, and mostly made of sawdust and rubber bands.

 

[Jade Falcon]

my stance is that gay people are highly evolved, thats why they dont have kids. Their biology is saving the world from overpopulation via natural selection. in the future everyone will be gay and even the trees will wear fabulous scarves in the fall.

Bisexual people are even more evolved, part alien, and mostly made of sawdust and rubber bands.

*GASP*

Is THAT why my penis is made of rubber and wood?

 

[SlyPokerDog]