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You are right about people dying every day, and how Americans are treated like Kings and Queens compared to the rest of the world, but a life lost is a life that should be grieved - wehter you're American or not. I'm sure if more people knew about the tragedies happening in countries like Africa - such as the genocide that happened last year, than a lot more people would be doing more about it. It's cool taht you can put in perspective that the Amrican casualty of 2,000+ lives lost compared to the 10's of thousands people who die in other countries, but its not like you can just forget about it.You said that you care about the people in the congo dying - those people don't affect you one bit, but you don't carea bout Americans dying in your own country? - who by the way affect you immensly - tell me how that maks any sense...Although I really don't believe what you're saying right now about not caring about 9/11 - but if you really dont care, you need to take a step back and be alittle more sensitive to life. Because, if god forbid, one of your close family members died in an accident, you will want someone by yourside, and you will appreciate other people's condolences and sympathy. You just don't see that now becasue you haven't experienced it - and I am spekaing from expereince.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You said that you care about the people in the congo dying - those people don't affect you one bit, but you don't carea bout Americans dying in your own country? - who by the way affect you immensly - tell me how that maks any sense...</div> 🪨
 
Because I choose to stand up for those people then to exalt Americans who have died, as they recieve enough attention as is.
 
lol ok. Good logic there. I think? I agree, we shouldn't treat Americans who have died like saints and martyrs, just like we shouldn't with anyone else (mostly); but you still have to be a little sympathetic for a the families of those individuals who passed away. You can not simply say you don't care for the citizens of your own country just because they weren't a direct part of your family. That is just morally wrong - and it doesn't really help you achieve your purpose. It can't make any logical sense to say that you only care for the people of the Congo because they don't get attention. I see, and understand the message that you're trying to portray, but you are trying too hard, and you are going in the wrong direction by saying you don't care for the Americans that died - it simply doesn't work. I am sure that deep down, you really do care for the people that died, you probably just can't see it yet.
 
What if Jessica Alba would of been on one of those flights?? i think you'd be acting different and thats a shame.
 
lol that's true.I'm not trying to make it seem as though those lives which were lost aren't important, I just feel that they got too much attention which wasn't deserved, when far more atrocious acts of murder are commited daily, which recieve no media attention.
 
^ ok well thats not what you were saying earlier.and yes I agree with you on that - americans do get too much attention - its like 1 american = 5,000 other person to get the same attention.
 
I agree.A life is a life, and I'm sick of Americans being treated like they're so much more important than the rest of the world, so I support 3rd world countries in this area when I can. Of course when anyone dies it's tragic, but when you compare 9/11 to the things that go on in places like Sudan and Congo, it's pretty ridiculous how the media covers things. I'm sure the African child who was forced to watch his mother get raped and killed (in some cases even rape his own mother) feels just as bad as the American kid who's Dad died when the WTC went down.
 
ok - again, I agree with you; but waht I am saying is that - caring for a life based on geography only or how it gets publicized by the media is not a way to go by. If you take back wat you said earlier about totally not caring for anyone's ife who died in the 9/11 crashes, than you've redeemed yoursef - but as of now, you are just illogical to me.
 
I'm just saying that I feel as though those people have been immortalized by the media, and I don't think that's right.I'm just sick of hearing about how heroic these people are and all that crap, thousands of people die in much worse ways every day, so why don't they get any attention? Maybe I didn't word it right when I said I don't care about them, it's more like I'm tired of hearing about them and all the attention they get, when other people who's lives were equally important are neglected.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr Wolf @ Apr 29 2006, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, there is a movie out in theaters called "United 93", however due to the rise in gas prices I will not fork over the $7-8 to see it. Call me a cheap ass. However, A&E did show their original movie "Flight 93" on tonight (and it is on for an encore later tonight at midnight central time).I watched the movie and it got me pretty emotional. It really makes you think back about that day and all the events that unfolded. It truely was a tragic day that I will never forget. Ever. Honest to god, that day still breeds anger in me. I'm still angry, I'm still fuming mad over what happened on that day. When I see the footage or when I watched this movie it just reminded me of that. The general public isn't reminded enough of the events on 9-11.Anyways, I got off topic there for a second. This movie shows the courage, the bravery and the heart of those on board Flight United 93. Once they found the terrorists were bluffing about the bomb and they were going on a suicide mission, they decided to act and take over the cockpit. Those guys saved hundreds of lives by making that unselfish move. The fact that they can't get funding for a memorial makes me angry, as well. The crew and the passengers fought the terrorists and saved many, many lives. What do they need to do to be remembered? They are heros and they show us that everyday people can be heros. They were husbands, fathers and sons and those son of bitches took them away. What the hell more do you have to do for a memorial?I suggest you guys either check out United 93 in theaters (with your family, not your friends) or watch the encore of Flight 93 on A&E tonight.RIP Flight United 93 and all of those innocent who died on that day</div>Don't just insult Muslims, Christians considered all Muslims animals in the Crusaders day, and what did Muslims do in return?Oh yeah, in the two Crusades they entered (and won), they let the Christians and Jews go completely free.Edit: Keep the namecalling off the boards. Consult that in PM or another way besides these boards. ~ Wade3
 
No I wont see it. Because honestly it never effected me in any way when it happened. I know it was tragic but I dont care enough to go see that movie. Me being Canadian, it had no effect over my life or other Canadian lives.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqas @ Apr 30 2006, 03:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Don't just insult Muslims, retard, Christians considered all Muslims animals in the Crusaders day, and what did Muslims do in return?Oh yeah, in the two Crusades they entered (and won), they let the Christians and Jews go completely free.</div>How did he insult Muslims? I re-read his post, I found nothing.
 
EDIT: I was about to say something racist about Muslims, i'll keep it to myself, for Waqas benefit.
 
Keep racism away from this board guys. Just settle down Wagas. Let's not get into a huge fight here.
 
The reason why it gets so much attention in America is because it was a direct terror attack on America against Americans on American soil. Do you really think we will treat this the same as if thousands of other people died in another country? Is it right? I don't know. But these are our loved ones who are dying on this day in our backyard. We got sucker-punched by cowards. Of course it will get more attention than stuff that happens in Africa.You are naive if you think America would.
 
I want to see the movie myself. Even though I've been in Canada most my life, even though 9/11 didn't affect my country to the degree it did America, it was a horrible day that forever changed my views on people, religion, and power. Flight 93 looks like a solid ticket
 
I won't see the movie because I have watched the 9/11 documentaries on TV. Seeing the planes hit the towers makes me sick along with the people jumping and seeing the people on the streets reaction. But to be 100% honest I am over 9/11. It was terrible but we move on. The world has not changed like the media says it has or would after 9/11, let me make that clear. Everything is back to the way it was regardless of the Patriot Act or the war. People have short attention spans and humans are progressive, we move on.
 
The world will never change. With the priorities us humans have today, andwill ahve until man kind ceases to exist, there will always be more greed, evil, and jelousy in the world than kindness and good
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr Wolf @ Apr 30 2006, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The reason why it gets so much attention in America is because it was a direct terror attack on America against Americans on American soil. Do you really think we will treat this the same as if thousands of other people died in another country? Is it right? I don't know. But these are our loved ones who are dying on this day in our backyard. We got sucker-punched by cowards. Of course it will get more attention than stuff that happens in Africa.You are naive if you think America would.</div>actually its the united states.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fabolous @ Apr 30 2006, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>actually its the united states.</div>What are you talking about?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr Wolf @ Apr 30 2006, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The reason why it gets so much attention in America is because it was a direct terror attack on America against Americans on American soil. Do you really think we will treat this the same as if thousands of other people died in another country? Is it right? I don't know. But these are our loved ones who are dying on this day in our backyard. We got sucker-punched by cowards. Of course it will get more attention than stuff that happens in Africa.You are naive if you think America would.</div>would what?
 
If America would pay more attention to the people of Congo than what happened to our own people on our own soil (911).My bad for not specifying what I was talking about.
 
Well they should, it's much worse than a few thousand Americans dying.
 
That's like saying you should care more about 10 fathers dying in a car crash over in Germany more than your own father dying in a car crash in America.
 
No it isn't, because the majority of the U.S. didn't lose a loved one on 9/11.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ May 1 2006, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No it isn't, because the majority of the U.S. didn't lose a loved one on 9/11.</div>But it happened in our backyard to our friends, family and co-workers. You may not have been directly effected but you were still effected.I don't know why I have to debate this with you. It's quite obvious that 9-11 should be more important to Americans than the people of Congo because it happened to us and it was an attack on us. I expect the people on Congo to worry about themselves more than they worry about 9-11. It works both ways.Stop trying to make it look like Americans are horrible for thinking more of 9-11 than all the other stuff going on around the world. That other stuff does not effect them, 9-11 did and most of us took it personally. Those terrorists wanted to kill people like me and you because we are Americans. How can you not take that personally? Sure, you didn't get killed or nobody you knew was killed but they were targeting people like me and you.
 
You said if my Dad died in the attacks, saying that the majority of Americans lost someone as important to them as their own father is absurd.I don't care about terrorism because honestly with the esception of 9/11 it's a very minor problem which we seem to make a huge deal of. I never said that Americans should care about Congo more than 9/11, but the fact that we still hear about it nonstop 5 years later and not once on the news have I seen one mention of the 7 million who have been killed in Congo makes me sick.
 
I'm sorry, some of us are still extremely upset at what happened on that day. In fact, some of us are so upset at it we are willing to die to make sure those responsible are put to justice.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr Wolf @ May 2 2006, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sorry, some of us are still extremely upset at what happened on that day. In fact, some of us are so upset at it we are willing to die to make sure those responsible are put to justice.</div> Most of those responsible are dead or in prison so you don't need to waste the rest of your life trying to bring them to justice.
 
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