For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Mar 4 2008, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hillary wins Texas.</div>


Hillary wins texas.
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The Primary. There's a caucus, hater.

 

[Denny Crane]

Hater?

I'm just the one who's amused at it all.

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hater?

I'm just the one who's amused at it all.</div>

Just calling it like I see it.

 

[Brand New]

Hilary will win it all.Book it.

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bynumite @ Mar 5 2008, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hilary will win it all.Book it.

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I forgot Bynumite, why do you like her again?

Not trying to make you feel bad or anything, it's a serious question.

 

[huevonkiller]

I guess you just like her last name then. Heh.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/s...=TX&ref=ipb

Democratic Primary Results
Tuesday, March 4
Real-time Race Results: Updated March 5, 2008 - 5:41 AM (all times Eastern Standard)
Texas
Precincts Reporting 99%

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Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner
Clinton 1,452,776 51% 64 <span style="color:#ff0000">Winner</span>
Obama 1,354,553 48% 62
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Look! Obama won!

 

[CelticKing]

I'm glad that Clinton won. I don't want Obama to be the president. We need a president who's parents and grandparents were born here. That is not the case with Obama, half his family is in Africa. Not that anything is wrong with that but he's not a true American. Just like I'm not myself, I have American citizenship but most of my family is in Kosovo.

Clinton on the other hand, has the experience, and has been in the White House for 8 years. (with Bill of course)



Personally, I'm voting for McCain, but either him or Clinton would do just fine as the next American President.

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Mar 5 2008, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm glad that Clinton won. I don't want Obama to be the president. We need a president who's parents and grandparents were born here. That is not the case with Obama, half his family is in Africa. Not that anything is wrong with that but he's not a true American. Just like I'm not myself, I have American citizenship but most of my family is in Kosovo.

Clinton on the other hand, has the experience, and has been in the White House for 8 years. (with Bill of course)



Personally, I'm voting for McCain, but either him or Clinton would do just fine as the next American President.</div>
You sound completely xenophobic.

I'm Glad that Clinton is too ****ing late to catch up.

 

[Denny Crane]

What you are ignoring is the fact that she doesn't have to catch up. Neither is going to get enough delegates to win outright, so it's going to come down to soviet-style backroom deals in smoke filled rooms. Deals like "I'll make you ambassador to the virgin islands in exchange for your vote" or "if we get Michigan and Florida's delegates to count"

Speaking of which, that's being talked about as politburo style democracy, as well (Michigan and Florida not counting, and only one candidate on the ballot).

All the talk so far has been about what kind of deals can possibly be made to force one of the two to quit.

Unlike McCain who has the required number of delegates and is the presumptive nominee.

 

[CelticKing]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Mar 5 2008, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm glad that Clinton won. I don't want Obama to be the president. We need a president who's parents and grandparents were born here. That is not the case with Obama, half his family is in Africa. Not that anything is wrong with that but he's not a true American. Just like I'm not myself, I have American citizenship but most of my family is in Kosovo.

Clinton on the other hand, has the experience, and has been in the White House for 8 years. (with Bill of course)



Personally, I'm voting for McCain, but either him or Clinton would do just fine as the next American President.</div>
You sound completely xenophobic.

I'm Glad that Clinton is too ****ing late to catch up.
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You got the wrong man to call xenophobic. haha

I'm a foreigner just like Obama is, and I support all foreigners, and refugees. At the same time I have a brain and I'm not looking forward to having a president that knows what to do and will get things done. Obama hasn't proven anything to this point. All he does is talk, but I'm sure you know, that talk is cheap. (he's a lawyer after all)



Glad that the country has finally waken up and will vote for either Clinton or McCain. Obama should stay a senator, and get the experience there first, get some years under his belt, then try again after 8 years.

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What you are ignoring is the fact that she doesn't have to catch up. Neither is going to get enough delegates to win outright, so it's going to come down to soviet-style backroom deals in smoke filled rooms. Deals like "I'll make you ambassador to the virgin islands in exchange for your vote" or "if we get Michigan and Florida's delegates to count"

Speaking of which, that's being talked about as politburo style democracy, as well (Michigan and Florida not counting, and only one candidate on the ballot).

All the talk so far has been about what kind of deals can possibly be made to force one of the two to quit.

Unlike McCain who has the required number of delegates and is the presumptive nominee.</div>

Pure speculation. Michigan won't count no matter what.

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Mar 5 2008, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Mar 5 2008, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm glad that Clinton won. I don't want Obama to be the president. We need a president who's parents and grandparents were born here. That is not the case with Obama, half his family is in Africa. Not that anything is wrong with that but he's not a true American. Just like I'm not myself, I have American citizenship but most of my family is in Kosovo.

Clinton on the other hand, has the experience, and has been in the White House for 8 years. (with Bill of course)



Personally, I'm voting for McCain, but either him or Clinton would do just fine as the next American President.</div>
You sound completely xenophobic.

I'm Glad that Clinton is too ****ing late to catch up.
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You got the wrong man to call xenophobic. haha

I'm a foreigner just like Obama is, and I support all foreigners, and refugees. At the same time I have a brain and I'm not looking forward to having a president that knows what to do and will get things done. Obama hasn't proven anything to this point. All he does is talk, but I'm sure you know, that talk is cheap. (he's a lawyer after all)



Glad that the country has finally waken up and will vote for either Clinton or McCain. Obama should stay a senator, and get the experience there first, get some years under his belt, then try again after 8 years.
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Your post was completely xenophobic, I don't give a **** what your position normally is.

You're generalizing the whole election if you say Obama is all talk. He used to outline his plans in details in most of his speeches and people told him he was too specific and boring, so please.

Clinton is full of the same BS promises, but with an obnoxious past. I'd rather vote for Obama.

Either way, if Obama or McCain win, that's the best case for our country. It's all good.

 

[Denny Crane]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pure speculation. Michigan won't count no matter what.</div>


And it's called the "Democratic" Party because they don't let peoples' votes count?

You know, if I lived in Michigan or Florida and wasn't counted, I think I would stay home in November or even vote for the other side.

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pure speculation. Michigan won't count no matter what.</div>


And it's called the "Democratic" Party because they don't let peoples' votes count?
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In a primary with just one candidate, you're telling me you think that will count?

 

[CelticKing]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your post was completely xenophobic, I don't give a **** what your position normally is.

You're generalizing the whole election if you say Obama is all talk. He used to outline his plans in details in most of his speeches and people told him he was to specific and boring, so please.

Clinton is full of the same BS promises, but with an obnoxious past. I'd rather vote for Obama.

Either way, if Obama or McCain win, that's the best case for our country. It's all good.</div>


You're actually giving a shit since you replied to my post. Tell me it isn't so?


Again Obama is all talk, he hasn't proven that he can run the country. There hundreds of other Democrats out there that are better qualified and more deservingly to become the president.


Vote for whoever you want, you have the freedom to do so.


Still, McCain or Clinton will take this country forward. Obama will not.




(again, I'm voting for McCain personally, I don't like the democrats at all)

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#FL

Florida
Clinton 857,208 votes / 50%
Obama 569,041 votes / 33%

People who get their votes counted? ZERO

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Mar 5 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your post was completely xenophobic, I don't give a **** what your position normally is.

You're generalizing the whole election if you say Obama is all talk. He used to outline his plans in details in most of his speeches and people told him he was to specific and boring, so please.

Clinton is full of the same BS promises, but with an obnoxious past. I'd rather vote for Obama.

Either way, if Obama or McCain win, that's the best case for our country. It's all good.</div>


You're actually giving a shit since you replied to my post. Tell me it isn't so?


Again Obama is all talk, he hasn't proven that he can run the country. There hundreds of other Democrats out there that are better qualified and more deservingly to become the president.


Vote for whoever you want, you have the freedom to do so.


Still, McCain or Clinton will take this country forward. Obama will not.




(again, I'm voting for McCain personally, I don't like the democrats at all)
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I can almost say the same about Hillary.

Clinton is all talk, her experience comments are laughable.

 

[Denny Crane]

At least Hillary showed up for work and did her job in the Senate. That Obama didn't speaks to lack of experience and may well be a good reason why he's lost his momentum.

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>At least Hillary showed up for work and did her job in the Senate. That Obama didn't speaks to lack of experience and may well be a good reason why he's lost his momentum.</div>

Hillary is so dirty, that's why no one likes her.

He could have no momentum and beat Hillary. She has no options aside from trying to do something in Florida. If she tries some weird shit like that she'd definitely lose the general election anyway.


At the end of the day that's what i care about most. If McCain wins, so what? He's much more likable than the other clown, although you've definitely been reaching lately Denny.

 

[CelticKing]

True Denny, also being in the White House for 8 years, and going through all the foreign relations duties that Bill had and whatnot is experience in my book.


Clinton - 12 years as first lady of Arkansas, 8 years as first lady of the USA, from 2001 a US Senator from NY. That is experience.


Obama - failed to get into the US House of Representatives in 2000, became a US Senator from Illinois in 2005. 3 years later, Presidential candidate. What the hell did he do to deserve it?

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Mar 5 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>True Denny, also being in the White House for 8 years, and going through all the foreign relations duties that Bill had and whatnot is experience in my book.


Clinton - 12 years as first lady of Arkansas, 8 years as first lady of the USA, from 2001 a US Senator from NY. That is experience.


Obama - failed to get into the US House of Representatives in 2000, became a US Senator from Illinois in 2005. 3 years later, Presidential candidate. What the hell did he do to deserve it?</div>

What the hell did Hillary do to become the front runner?

I'll tell you why she started losing though, it's because of BS things she said about Obama and Iraq, his Pro-Choice votes, etc. . She constantly misrepresents him, and her trying to get Michigan to count put people off.

Denny's not even a fan of the Clinton administration. Hillary has low character with the Anti-semitic things she said and such, that's why she's a loser this time. I didn't even mention Whitewater or the 800,000 she had to return. She sweats bullets when talking about her tax returns, her camp really wants to stall that as long as possible (April 15).