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Yankeefan5545 said:
I vote that the Katzenjammer Kids sell the Yankees to an ownership group who cares or replace Cashman for a quality GM.
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...yup, that is the only way things will change. Wouldn't mind Jeter being a part of that ownership group.
 
Rick2583 said:
So you're okay with the job that Cashman has done? And the fact that the starting rotation is a GIANT question mark?
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The team won 84 games last year and missed the playoffs by 4(?) games with the offense near the bottom of the league (sucked) in most categories after he signed Ellsbury,McCann, Beltran and Tanaka (who went down with an elbow injury).

What did you expect him and ownership to do? Don't you think they're correct in taking a wait and see approach this season regarding the offense or should they try and steal a couple of "allstars" from other teams to fill holes?

And they did sign Headley and traded for a young (inexpensive) SS who they think may hold the position down and help solidify the left side for at least a few years.

They did say they weren't going after any of the top free agent pitchers and I can't blame them➡see Tanaka and CC.

As for the pitching....and question marks, maybe they're not done yet with moves..they could also be expecting better things from CC and are committed to seeing what the group of Pineda, Eovaldi, Warren and Nova (June) can do.

Sure you can say they're unproven- let's see if they CAN prove something.
Looks like the Yankees also want to see.
 
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...they also signed a relatively expensive SS (Drew) who also cannot hit a lick...they also traded away 2 "inexpensive" pitchers (Greene and Phelps)...they also signed a reliever (Miller) for slightly less than DRob would have cost.

...yes, Cashman clearly has a plan.
 
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The only thing a WAIT & SEE APPROACH ever got anyone was an early vacation. Sure sometimes you get lucky but when you have a pitching staff that's held together with band-aids, bandages & slings, Sorry but a little difficult to be optimistic.

CC = on the decline the last few years before his recent knee surgery.
Pineda = Hasn't had a healthy season in years.
Tanaka = ? on that arm
Nova = not back until June & no idea what he can do after TJ surgery
Evoldi = Career 15-35 with an ERA over 4 & a career WHIP of 1.440 & led the NL in hits given up.

Not to mention that we also go into 2015 with question marks at SS (Didi) & we have no idea whats the kids can do at 2B

These were all ? at the end of the 2014 season & they still are. Yeah.........Cashman's done a real fine job. Lets renew his services & give him a raise., Oh wait.
 
Before signing Drew I thought we were in the midst of a youth movement and about to watch the young guys come up the ranks. Now I'm not sure what is going on.

I do like the idea of getting younger and not taking on ridiculous contracts, but it better work out.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...they also signed a relative expensive SS who also cannot hit a lick...they also traded away 2 "inexpensive" pitchers...they also signed a reliever for slightly less than DRob would have cost.

...yes, Cashman clearly has a plan.
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You may not like it, or disagree or not believe it but I think Cashman does have a "plan".

It may not be as imaginative as you would like but I think a large part of the "plan" is waiting on Beltran, McCann and Tex to provide significantly more as a group than last year.
Miller over Drob ? - 5 mil less for a reliever who was more dominant than Drob, same age and get a pick right after the 1st round.
Sounds like some sort of "plan" to me.

Gregorius has been dreadful vs LHP but he can damage RHP with an OPS over .700.
They're OBVIOUSLY expecting better from him vs LHP,
and being a LH batter at 6'2, 205 lbs playing 81 games at Yankee Stadium they also have reason to believe he can hit a few long balls.
We'll see, lets find out. The trade has been made.

If I know (expect) that - I think Cashman does.

As for the pitching - I already gave my take on it in post 34.

There's The Plan! lol We can take it or leave it.
 
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blgridesagain said:
You may not like it, or disagree or not believe it but I think Cashman does have a "plan".

It may not be as imaginative as you would like but I think a large part of the "plan" is waiting on Beltran, McCann and Tex to provide significantly more as a group than last year.
Miller over Drob ? - 5 mil less for a reliever who was more dominant than Drob, same age and get a pick right after the 1st round.
Sounds like some sort of "plan" to me.

Gregorius has been dreadful vs LHP but he can damage RHP with an OPS over .700.
They're OBVIOUSLY expecting better from him vs LHP,
and being a LH batter at 6'2, 205 lbs playing 81 games at Yankee Stadium they also have reason to believe he can hit a few long balls.
We'll see, lets find out. The trade has been made.

If I know (expect) that - I think Cashman does.

As for the pitching - I already gave my take on it in post 34.

There's The Plan! lol We can take it or leave it.
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Refer to post #36
 
blgridesagain said:
You may not like it, or disagree or not believe it but I think Cashman does have a "plan".

It may not be as imaginative as you would like but I think a large part of the "plan" is waiting on Beltran, McCann and Tex to provide significantly more as a group than last year.
Miller over Drob ? - 5 mil less for a reliever who was more dominant than Drob, same age and get a pick right after the 1st round.
Sounds like some sort of "plan" to me.


Gregorius has been dreadful vs LHP but he can damage RHP with an OPS over .700.
They're OBVIOUSLY expecting better from him vs LHP,
and being a LH batter at 6'2, 205 lbs playing 81 games at Yankee Stadium they also have reason to believe he can hit a few long balls.
We'll see, lets find out. The trade has been made.

If I know (expect) that - I think Cashman does.

As for the pitching - I already gave my take on it in post 34.

There's The Plan! lol We can take it or leave it.
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...I've already left it.
 
Rick2583 said:
Refer to post #36
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Refer to posts 34 & 38 lol

But please, before you do that, did you want him to sign McCarthy , Max , Lester and Shields? Post 34, 4th paragraph. lol

Don't tell me you're not going to be patient with a couple of the young pitchers?....George Steinbrenner is alive and well!

Pineda has had injuries, okay let's sign another pitcher for 7 years and a gazillion dollars....Eovaldi got banged around in 2014, was he not long ago highly touted, is he young and healthy?
Never mind.....another 6-7 yr contract to a pitcher going into his 30s!

Will CC, with a 90 mph fastball, good curve ball and changeup be able to morph into at least a solid # 3 - 4 type?
He may no longer be an ace - but CAN help.
The Yankees want to find out...especially for that kind of money!

Nova? Has he pitched well before? Still relatively young?
Will he be one of the 10 percenters who don't comeback from that surgery?
Never mind, we don't care ....trade away Two or Three of your top prospects for Cole Hamels, and his salary.

Lmao
 
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...I already said "I've already left it". That's my stance...don't like it?...I don't care.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I already said "I've already left it". That's my stance...don't like it?...I don't care.
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Excuse me, I was responding to Rick's post.
Thank you.

And as I said, the Yankees will win approx 90 games *all things being equal.

...just in case you want to play your little word games.

*no long term injuries to a couple few established regulars.

Before you go, APPROX 90 wins.! lol
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...yup, that is the only way things will change. Wouldn't mind Jeter being a part of that ownership group.
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I would too, and honestly whatever Cash-Box had to say, would all the sudden carry a helluva lot less impact or creedence...IMO...!
 
blgridesagain said:
Excuse me, I was responding to Rick's post.
Thank you.

And as I said, the Yankees will win approx 90 games *all things being equal.

...just in case you want to play your little word games.

*no long term injuries to a couple few established regulars.

Before you go, APPROX 90 wins.! lol
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Hey'a Brother THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM, in case you didn't get the Memo, anyone can post here to another's Q. Perhaps you shoulda PM'd Rick...!
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Hey'a Brother THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM, in case you didn't get the Memo, anyone can post here to another's Q. Perhaps you shoulda PM'd Rick...!
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Yanks win "approx" 90 games in 2015.

Fire Cashman....whaaaaaa wa waaaaaaaa.....whaaaaaa....whaa..
 
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blgridesagain said:
Yanks win "approx" 90 games in 2015.

Fire Cashman....whaaaaaa wa waaaaaaaa.....whaaaaaa....whaa..
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Hey, I am an optimist believe it or not. I'd love nothing more to say I have full faith the Yanx will win 100 or even 90 games, yet, I doubt the former, the latter maybe, and I hope so....! ie, the best for the Yanx, that is...!
 
I also believe the Yankees will win more games then last year (84). I'll go 86-88 TOPS!
 
...other than homeriffic "hopes", I don't see any reason to think this team will win 90 games.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...other than homeriffic "hopes", I don't see any reason to think this team will win 90 games.
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Not to over simplify it, obviously alot of stuff happens throughout the season and nothing (big acquisition) jumps out at you about this team but here is my best condensed explanation why I think approx 90 wins:

Barring serious/nagging injuries to a couple of the regulars AND Miller/Tanaka can't be out long term. Okay, let's even assume Tanaka will need surgery.
lol, I must be nuts lol.

Here goes:
I just think the bullpen will be deeper/better.
The SP will be respectable and could be surprisingly better.
Infield defense should be better from day one.

Combine all of the above with:
The lineup will be considerably better at scoring runs than last year.
 
blgridesagain said:
Not to over simplify it, obviously alot of stuff happens throughout the season and nothing (big acquisition) jumps out at you about this team but here is my best condensed explanation why I think approx 90 wins:

Barring serious/nagging injuries to a couple of the regulars AND Miller/Tanaka can't be out long term. Okay, let's even assume Tanaka will need surgery.
lol, I must be nuts lol.

Here goes:
I just think the bullpen will be deeper/better.
The SP will be respectable and could be surprisingly better.
Infield defense should be better from day one.

Combine all of the above with:
The lineup will be considerably better at scoring runs than last year.
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Hey its your opinion & hell I hope you're right but winning 90 games depends on a lot.

CC not continuing to decline
Tanaka's arm holding up
Teixeira (see CC)
Beltran having a healthy comeback season
Didi hitting 260+ with some pop while playing decent SS
The kids & Drew being productive and playing a solid 2nd base
McCann & Tex being able to hit against the shift
Ellsbury staying healthy
Someone teaching Gardner how to run
Pineda staying healthy
And hoping our 4th & 5th starters can produce.
 
blgridesagain said:
Not to over simplify it, obviously alot of stuff happens throughout the season and nothing (big acquisition) jumps out at you about this team but here is my best condensed explanation why I think approx 90 wins:

Barring serious/nagging injuries to a couple of the regulars AND Miller/Tanaka can't be out long term. Okay, let's even assume Tanaka will need surgery.
lol, I must be nuts lol.

Here goes:
I just think the bullpen will be deeper/better.
The SP will be respectable and could be surprisingly better.
Infield defense should be better from day one.

Combine all of the above with:
The lineup will be considerably better at scoring runs than last year.
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...hence "homeriffic hopes".

...a solid BP is of little use and will be worn out if the starters can't go 5-6 innings...Gardner, Ellsbury, Beltran, Headley, Tex, McCann, CC, Pineda, Tanaka, Nova, etc., all have a history of injuries and there's no reason to believe they'll miraculously have an injury free season.

...with the exception of Tanaka (if he can pitch like last year and if his arm holds up) the Yanx have a bunch of #3 and #4 starters (not 100% sold on Pineda yet)...and if Tanaka goes down, it's pretty much over and they won't win 80 games much less 90.

...sorry, I wish I could be more optimistic but from my perspective I see more negatives and question marks than positives. I hope I'm proven wrong, but I just don't see it.
 
Rick2583 said:
Hey its your opinion & hell I hope you're right but winning 90 games depends on a lot.

CC not continuing to decline
Tanaka's arm holding up
Teixeira (see CC)
Beltran having a healthy comeback season
Didi hitting 260+ with some pop while playing decent SS
The kids & Drew being productive and playing a solid 2nd base
McCann & Tex being able to hit against the shift
Ellsbury staying healthy
Someone teaching Gardner how to run
Pineda staying healthy
And hoping our 4th & 5th starters can produce.
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Rick, Ellsbury was one of the first guys on my mind when I said - "barring long term nagging injuries to a couple of the regulars" along with McCann and Beltran.

I don't believe whether or not Gardner improving his base stealing skills will be a significant factor in this team's chances of making the post season but we do need him healthy.


Regarding Tex and McCann hitting against the shift more often, I'm certainly in favor of it but maybe just a few more balls over the RF fence between them will help win a couple more games. The Yankees struggled to much at home last year and one of the biggest reasons was the lack of the long ball.

I don't think Didi necessarily needs to hit ".260" immediately this season overall ,
but I'll take it.
What's more important is if he shows steady improvement (BA or OBP) vs LHP....he should do okay vs RHP, and if he doesn't, Houston, we have a problem.
He does have an OPS over .700 vs RHP, if he improves vs LHP his overall numbers should also rise.


I would keep an eye on Warren as a SP.
We can't chase our tails worrying about potential possible injuries here and there and neither can Cashman or any other GM.....there's only so many guys we can carry on the roster...lol....it is what it is, this is the team (so far).
Sometimes you just have to play your hand or throw the dice.
 
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Keep your Optimistic cap on, I think you may need it by the 1st of September....

Hey, I want to be proven wrong, I want to see the Yanx win 100 games, who doesn't????

Yet, I've got my realist down to earth hat on, and we have yet to see, a true honest attempt to make the Yanks SP staff stronger, IMO. I would not bet a wooden nickel on C.C. or Tex, or....name that player___________fill in spaces__________, ___________

But DO NOT get me wrong, I want to see more than success, I want to see sheer over powering domination. With that, I am beginning to believe The Kidz, and Cash-Box will never be able to provide this much to us Fans. .... don't get me wrong, I already said it: "I'd love to be proven wrong"....why get your hopes up, only to be let down.

If there were some strong additions, then, I'd be as hyped as you seem to be....in the meantime, where's my cup of coffee...!
 
yankeesince59 said:
...other than homeriffic "hopes", I don't see any reason to think this team will win 90 games.
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Between the Jeter hangover and ARod circus, I'm going with 80 wins and a losing season. Happy to be wrong, but this season could get very ugly quickly.
 
If they can all stay healthy & keep the missed games to a minimum the'll sneak in with 86-88 wins but being realistic I'm thinking a 3rd straight year of playing in just 162 games.
 
totus44 said:
Between the Jeter hangover and ARod circus, I'm going with 80 wins and a losing season. Happy to be wrong, but this season could get very ugly quickly.
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...yup, there's a distinct possibility that this team finishes last in the division...and like you, I hope I'm wrong.
 
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