For those who think we owned the Suns

[MARIS61]

Hate to point out what short memories many of you have but Steve Blake started all 4 games we won against Phoenix (including the pre-season) and had been traded before the loss in March.

Blake starting = 4-0.

Miller starting = 1-3

Steve Nash owns Andre Miller.

 

[Natebishop3]

Hate to point out what short memories you have but Steve Blake started all 4 games we won against Phoenix (including the pre-season) and had been traded before the loss in March.

Steve Nash owns Andre Miller.

Except for in game one... I'm pretty sure Andre Miller straight up owned Steve Nash.

 

[yenniedn]

Please don't argue with Maris - no one (and I mean NO ONE) knows point guards like this man does.

 

[MARIS61]

Except for in game one... I'm pretty sure Andre Miller straight up owned Steve Nash.

I guess you missed the game. Check the stat sheet, our bigs and Rudy won the game by shutting down Hill, Richardson and Collins with D, but Nash had a great night and no problem at all doing anything he wanted on offense.

 

[LameR]

Good job throwing in pre-season. It really helped your point.

 

[jlprk]

In 2005 Andre Miller played for Denver vs San Antonio in the playoffs, won game 1, lost series 1-4

In 2008, Andre Miller played for Philadelphia vs Detroit in the playoffs, won game 1, lost series 2-4

In 2009, Andre Miller played for Philadelphia vs Orlando in the playoffs, won game 1, lost series 2-4

All of these series were first round match-ups, and Miller's team was the 6th or 7th seed in all of them. No series even went to 7.

 

[BlazerBeav]

In 2005 Andre Miller played for Denver vs San Antonio in the playoffs, won game 1, lost series 1-4

In 2008, Andre Miller played for Philadelphia vs Detroit in the playoffs, won game 1, lost series 2-4

In 2009, Andre Miller played for Philadelphia vs Orlando in the playoffs, won game 1, lost series 2-4

All of these series were first round match-ups, and Miller's team was the 6th or 7th seed in all of them. No series even went to 7.

Your point? That Miller led underdog teams to road victories? That's somehow supposed to make us doubt Miller? The use of "logic" on this board astounds me greatly.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

In 2005 Andre Miller played for Denver vs San Antonio in the playoffs, won game 1, lost series 1-4

In 2008, Andre Miller played for Philadelphia vs Detroit in the playoffs, won game 1, lost series 2-4

In 2009, Andre Miller played for Philadelphia vs Orlando in the playoffs, won game 1, lost series 2-4

All of these series were first round match-ups, and Miller's team was the 6th or 7th seed in all of them. No series even went to 7.

So what is this supposed to prove?

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

Boy, it takes just one loss for all the crybaby bandwagoners to come out and show their true colors. Never mind that the series is tied and heading to Portland, or that we were just playing a team that was in full "backs to the wall" mode. Did you all really expect a Portland sweep? My prediction was that we steal game 1, and then hold home court. Looks like we're still on target, until PHX can win in the Rose Garden.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

No I think it takes one game where this team shows how poorly coached and inept they are at playing the best teams in the NBA for people to question, what the fuck are they doing in practice to get owned by 30 points in a playoff game? That's common sense!!! Most people I think thought it was highly unlikely we'd win game two, but to be spanked that way opens the door to questions just like these! How could it not?

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

No I think it takes one game where this team shows how poorly coached and inept they are at playing the best teams in the NBA for people to question, what the fuck are they doing in practice to get owned by 30 points in a playoff game? That's common sense!!! Most people I think thought it was highly unlikely we'd win game two, but to be spanked that way opens the door to questions just like these! How could it not?

Got news for you: We're the 6th best team IN THE WEST. Phoenix is the 5th best team IN THE LEAGUE. We're playing without our 3-time All-Star. Phoenix is 95% healthy, with the only injury to rookie Robin Lopez. Hill and Richardson had career shooting nights, something that is unlikely to happen again. Oh, and we're tied 1-1 heading back home for the next two. And all you fairweather fans just want to piss and moan, even though we're in a great position. Career shooting nights from role players + team in full panic mode = blowouts. I think that game 1 is more indicative of how the series is going to go than last night. Everyone's acting like they expected us to sweep or something...

 

[Wheels]

Got news for you: We're the 6th best team IN THE WEST. Phoenix is the 5th best team IN THE LEAGUE. We're playing without our 3-time All-Star. Phoenix is 95% healthy, with the only injury to rookie Robin Lopez. Hill and Richardson had career shooting nights, something that is unlikely to happen again. Oh, and we're tied 1-1 heading back home for the next two. And all you fairweather fans just want to piss and moan, even though we're in a great position. Career shooting nights from role players + team in full panic mode = blowouts. I think that game 1 is more indicative of how the series is going to go than last night. Everyone's acting like they expected us to sweep or something...

You should read the game threads.. even on wins

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

You should read the game threads.. even on wins

I have perused a few, and you're right. Its like "Fire Nate!" to "I love Nate!" in the span of minutes, complete with Jessie Borton orgasm noises.

 

[BlazerBeav]

No I think it takes one game where this team shows how poorly coached and inept they are at playing the best teams in the NBA

3-2 vs Phoenix
2-1 vs LA
3-1 vs Dallas
3-0 vs San Antonio

Inept at playing the best teams indeed.

 

[Wheels]

I have perused a few, and you're right. Its like "Fire Nate!" to "I love Nate!" in the span of minutes, complete with Jessie Borton orgasm noises.

nice

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

3-2 vs Phoenix
2-1 vs LA
3-1 vs Dallas
3-0 vs San Antonio

Inept at playing the best teams indeed.

Don't forget 3-1 against OKC...

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Hate to point out what short memories many of you have but Steve Blake started all 4 games we won against Phoenix (including the pre-season) and had been traded before the loss in March.

Blake starting = 4-0.

Miller starting = 1-3

Steve Nash owns Andre Miller.

Time for a reality check.

Take out the preseason, and you have:

Regular Season
Game 1, Blazers win: Miller starts, Blake comes off bench
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/291217022/phoenix-suns-vs-portland-trail-blazers
Game 2, Blazers win: Miller & Blake both start
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/300210021/portland-trail-blazers-vs-phoenix-suns
Game 3, Blazers lose: Miller starts, Blake not on team
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/300321021/portland-trail-blazers-vs-phoenix-suns

I don't think I need to link the playoff games, obviously Miller is 1-1 starting.

Thats a total of:
When Miller starts: 3-2
When Blake starts: 1-0

But really - whoopity doo! Everyone knows Nash is better than Miller. And everyone knows Miller is better than Blake. To think that Phoenix shouldn't have an edge at point guard is silly. But if Steve Nash "owns" Andre Miller, why won't his coach even let Nash guard him?

 

[BGrantFan]

Your point? That Miller led underdog teams to road victories? That's somehow supposed to make us doubt Miller? The use of "logic" on this board astounds me greatly.

Well, to me it points out that Miller isn't a true star PG, and needs a star player around him to help him win games. That's why losing Brandon is such a big deal. Miller can't be asked to carry the team in terms of creating offense, defending a "Tier-One" PG, and scoring every night over a playoff series. Nothing in his past shows he's capable of doing it. That's not an insult to Miller, it's just the reality of having him as a starting PG. Knowing this, I don't see how anyone can blame Miller for not being something that he is not. His history shows he's not good enough to lead a good team to a playoff upset; it's not his fault, though.

 

[blue32]

Well, to me it points out that Miller isn't a true star PG, and needs a star player around him to help him win games. That's why losing Brandon is such a big deal. Miller can't be asked to carry the team in terms of creating offense, defending a "Tier-One" PG, and scoring every night over a playoff series. Nothing in his past shows he's capable of doing it. That's not an insult to Miller, it's just the reality of having him as a starting PG. Knowing this, I don't see how anyone can blame Miller for not being something that he is not. His history shows he's not good enough to lead a good team to a playoff upset; it's not his fault, though.

Specially when you take into consideration the other "Star" player's performance. Good lord, could LMA get anymore pussy than last night?

I dont get him, Sometime he's got some sweet post moves, other times, its as though he forgets everything.

And why the fuck doesn't he shoot the fucking ball when there is nobody in front of him without having to take the infamous Troutlaw two-step first.

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

Well, to me it points out that Miller isn't a true star PG, and needs a star player around him to help him win games. That's why losing Brandon is such a big deal. Miller can't be asked to carry the team in terms of creating offense, defending a "Tier-One" PG, and scoring every night over a playoff series. Nothing in his past shows he's capable of doing it. That's not an insult to Miller, it's just the reality of having him as a starting PG. Knowing this, I don't see how anyone can blame Miller for not being something that he is not. His history shows he's not good enough to lead a good team to a playoff upset; it's not his fault, though.

So you're basically writing off the Blazers after 2 games, heading back home tied 1-1, a position that OKC, Miami, Chicago, Milwaukee would kill to be in.

 

[BGrantFan]

So you're basically writing off the Blazers after 2 games, heading back home tied 1-1, a position that OKC, Miami, Chicago, Milwaukee would kill to be in.

No, not at all. Aldridge needs to pick up the pace. He's getting off too easy. I posted after Game One that it was just "one fucking game". I posted that because I did not see Bayless and Miller as being able to have those same performances consistently. Is 'Dre going to have some very good games the rest of the series? Yes. Can we expect him to go 31/8 every night? Not a chance. Batum's status aside, if we're going to win this series, Aldridge needs to be more involved. I'd force-feed him the first five minutes of Game Three to get him going. Somebody needs to slap LA across the face right before tip-off. It's his series just as much as it's 'Dre's.

 

[OddEnormous]

I have perused a few, and you're right. Its like "Fire Nate!" to "I love Nate!" in the span of minutes, complete with Jessie Borton orgasm noises.

Can you name 1 poster who goes from fire Nate to I love Nate?

For me it's always fire Nate.

Sorry. I don't go all gaylord after 1 playoff victory.


You can offer him an extension for his great work if you'd like.

Do you think he'll sign it this time?

Me neither

 

[OddEnormous]

So you're basically writing off the Blazers after 2 games, heading back home tied 1-1, a position that OKC, Miami, Chicago, Milwaukee would kill to be in.

What difference does that make?

I'm not sure what writing off means in this case. PDX were always huge underdogs in this series.

I never expected Portland to win in. In fact I only expect them to win 1 more game.

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

Can you name 1 poster who goes from fire Nate to I love Nate?

For me it's always fire Nate.

Sorry. I don't go all gaylord after 1 playoff victory.


You can offer him an extension for his great work if you'd like.

Do you think he'll sign it this time?

Me either

Its called "hyperbole", you should try it sometime.

And name me one coach who could guide his team to 50 victories while losing 310+ games to injury...or could win game 1 on the road, against arguably the hottest team in the league, without his 3 time allstar. *crickets*
Like it or not, coaches are repsonsible for their teams W's and L's; thats why teams with lots of L's fire their coaches, and teams with lots of W's extend their coaches. To say that the Blazers are just a fluke 50 win team, that they did it DESPITE their coach, is ludicrous.

 

[OddEnormous]

Its called "hyperbole", you should try it sometime.

Oh, do you think I'm ready?



Yes, the highest form of conversation... hyperbole.

Anyway, I've said Nate is a good coach. But that's all he is. He's figured out how to strangle the regular season to death with mind numbing basketball that supposed to pay off in the playoffs. He has never proved to be anything else than a "good" regular season coach.

He's nothing more than a maybe who averages 4th place division finishes and has been blown out in 37.5% of his playoff games with Portland.

The best young coach in the NBA (Who's been coaching for 10 years)

Oh, and he refuses to sign an extension.

Yeah, he's the BEST

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

What difference does that make?

I'm not sure what writing off means in this case. PDX were always huge underdogs in this series.

I never expected Portland to win in. In fact I only expect them to win 1 more game.

Miller can't be asked to carry the team in terms of creating offense, defending a "Tier-One" PG, and scoring every night over a playoff series. Nothing in his past shows he's capable of doing it. . His history shows he's not good enough to lead a good team to a playoff upset; it's not his fault, though.

Sounds like he's saying that w/Dre at the helm, there's no way that we're winning this series, which is silly considering that we're tied and heading home.

I mentioned the other teams being down 2-0 because there is a world of difference confidence-wise being tied 1-1, than down 2-0, even after a blowout.

 

[BGrantFan]

Sounds like he's saying that w/Dre at the helm, there's no way that we're winning this series, which is silly considering that we're tied and heading home.

I mentioned the other teams being down 2-0 because there is a world of difference confidence-wise being tied 1-1, than down 2-0, even after a blowout.

I already explained myself, which you asked me to do. Portland is a very good team with Aldridge playing well, not just a good team. But, go ahead and make up my side of the argument to make yourself feel better. Miller has never led a good team to a playoff victory. This is a fact. Not a very good team. Not a great team. Fucking RIF, dude.

Epic Fail, indeed.

 

[OddEnormous]

I mentioned the other teams being down 2-0 because there is a world of difference confidence-wise being tied 1-1, than down 2-0, even after a blowout.

If PDX had a full squad and split on the road, I'd be delighted.

But I realize it was lightening in a bottle. They just got over in one game they shouldn't have.

It was great and fun to watch. They still are not winning this series anymore than the teams down 0-2 are.

 

[yenniedn]

No I think it takes one game where this team shows how poorly coached and inept they are at playing the best teams in the NBA for people to question, what the fuck are they doing in practice to get owned by 30 points in a playoff game? That's common sense!!! Most people I think thought it was highly unlikely we'd win game two, but to be spanked that way opens the door to questions just like these! How could it not?

Ha!!!

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

I already explained myself, which you asked me to do. Portland is a very good team with Aldridge playing well, not just a good team. But, go ahead and make up my side of the argument to make yourself feel better. Miller has never led a good team to a playoff victory. This is a fact. Not a very good team. Not a great team. Fucking RIF, dude.

Epic Fail, indeed.

Not trying to "make up your side" of the arguement...I agree that Miller has never led a team to a series win. I just don't agree with using someone's past history to make a judgment in the here and now. Before last year, people were saying that Kobe had never won a ring without Shaq-FACT. Before this year, people were saying that the Saints had never been to the Super Bowl, let alone won one-FACT. There's a first time for everything is all I'm saying, and if Miller is going to lead a team to the 2nd round, he's got a golden opportunity. Lets see if he's up to the challenge.