interesting that the selection committee has selected Cam as a starting six. The Rangers passed on him a couple of years ago at the draft, and was immediately taken by the Ducks with the next pick. I remember the Ducks' GM saying they couldn't believe he was still available and one of the panel members saying, that his " jaw dropped " when the Rangers didn't grab him. We of course chose McIlrath. I just hope this doesn't turn out to be another Hugh Jessiman fiasco. For Cam Fowler to make the USA squad as a 21 yr old is pretty impressive
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He doesn't bring anything to this team that we lack. He's just another soft defenseman who would be run over by Boston or just let Sid skate circles in our zone with no fear of being hit.
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Plus, it's not that impressive when you consider Orpik made the team and I don't even think he's any good. IMO, Kreider should have made the team over Stepan. Kreider on that ice surface with his size would have been a terror out there. He would have given defenses a very, hard time. It was clear the Penguins coach wanted his crappy defenseman. I stress the word crappy. They can't ever play defense in a big spot. Martin, Fowler, Orpik? They will not medal with that defense.
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Question dump. If we could deal McIlrath for Fowler right now would you do it?
And speaking of McIlrath, what is the deal with his knee? I never read anything after going for an MRI.
And speaking of McIlrath, what is the deal with his knee? I never read anything after going for an MRI.
I think we all know the answer to that: McIlrath = GOAT, Fowler = scrub
that's an exaggeration, of course, but Dump has continuously said how he wants McIlrath to be that physical force in the blue line that can keep other team's honest, so he's a big McIlrath fan.
While i see and understand his point, i would prefer to have that Leetch-type D that we so desperately need and think Fowler can become. Being in ANA i def don't follow him enough, but this year he's playing at a 50-pt pace and we haven't had a D with that many points in over a decade.
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I would never trade McIlrath for Fowler. I don't feel like watching the Bruins cheapshot our best forwards for another 10 years.
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Interesting discussion regarding McIlrath. Right now he is nothing. Could be very good. Could be a total bust. Truth is we don't know anything really. With that said he is still very young, and the jury is 100% still out. So who knows how it will end up. All I know is I wish McIlrath was ready to play in the NHL now. It will take longer because of his style. Wonder when he will be NHL ready.
Chuck, he's taking longer because of his injuries otherwise I think he'd be up here already. And we have fowler types already. Without a Mcilreith type to protect them they become injured types. We will all be very happy once big mac gets up here, gets comfortable and starts cracking heads and giving our skill players some space
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I remember is his first game he took a huge run at some forward on the other team. He missed, led to a goal but I was stunned because I never seen any of our candyass defenseman ever do that. If he connected on that guy, he would have been scraped off the ice. Kreider is starting to knock people down big time as a forward.
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Yeah, and the next guy Kreider knocks down may be AV if he doesn't figure out a friggin way to get his best forward into the god damn 4 on 4 OT which he will excel in. Alright, Dump, we're all on pins and needles. Its time to unveil the next Dump...............now waste of space ranger. I have Moore at 1.5 to 1.
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Oh yeah. Pyatt is gone now. LOL.
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I'm a mod so I probably have to have to head guy change it. Or I have to create an new one which I don't want to do. LOL
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Behold! My new target.
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I don't disagree at all, BUT we don't really know on McIlrath let's be honest. We can't talk about him as a given or say once he gets comfortable up here...we don't know. He could be a huge bust. Or he could be great. Or he could be solid. We'll see...hopefully next season.Chuck, he's taking longer because of his injuries otherwise I think he'd be up here already. And we have fowler types already. Without a Mcilreith type to protect them they become injured types. We will all be very happy once big mac gets up here, gets comfortable and starts cracking heads and giving our skill players some space
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40 games and the moron has 0 G, 4 A, never hits anybody and takes a spot up that McIlrath should have.
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If you are an NHL player, you have do something very well to contribute to the team. Even morons like Moore and Boyle are good on faceoffs and the PK unit. Stralman is an upgrade for many teams out there. Here, he's just taking up a roster spot.
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Stralman is what he is. Mediocore at a lot of things. Good at nothing really. Just a mediocore dman. A 3rd pair guy. AV likes him though, so he is locked in while he is here.
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I like the new handle dump, don't understand what AV sees in Anton, he's small, soft and devoid of any offensive ability. Even homers like Sam & Joe can only describe him as steady.
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I like Allen a lot more already. When you don't notice a defenseman, it's good at times. That means he isn't screwing up. At this point I would prefer he would trade Stralman for a near NHL ready prospect.
I kind of agree. While I want the USA to medal, I to question the D
McIlrath would be great for starters, but this team needs at least one more. I am sick and tired of watching this D leave Hank out to dry. The Rangers are very easy to play against. You just knock them around for 3 periods, and head for the crease because their is nobody on this team that will make a serious attempt to stop you.
I also would have picked Saad on the team over Cally and Stepan.
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