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Wow, if they had been 1/1000th that harsh on Bush..
 
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All news stations are a joke.

I prefer CNN. Yes, they are more liberal, but I find them more tolerable.
 
Most of the bad comments come from Hannity, Beck, and a couple of other random guests. I think most of their hosts are just as biased as other News Stations though, not necessarily more or less.

Sean's the worst in my opinion, he fear mongers the most and takes these petty attacks. Personally I watch every news station and don't believe you can get the whole story from one channel.

I also noticed some very bland and normal comments about the poor state of our economy or being disappointed, I don't get how that is supposed to be offensive, so the clip is superfluous in that sense.
 
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That was all in the past half year. Imagine what has been said in the last eight years.
 
hoojacks said:
That was all in the past half year. Imagine what has been said in the last eight years.
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Yeah, stuff like Cheney getting rich off Halliburton, 9/11 was a hoax, and I don't even know where to begin with all the rest.
 
Fox News is like Mixum getting a TV Show to complain about the Blazers.
 
Seriously - they're all a joke. CNN has D.L. Hughley hosting a political show? MSNBC is the worst - I'm not sure who the bigger douche is, Olbermann or Matthews.
 
They do these things over and over. An absolute joke. I don't care that they are bias because channels like MSNBC are heavily bias as well, but claiming to be "fair and balanced" and "We report you decide" is simply a fucking joke.

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Absolutely fair. At least they do it both ways, right? I mean McCain/republicans gets attacked by Fox News all the time, right? Its a joke. You aren't fair or balanced. Their motto should be... "News from a conservative point of view" or something like that.

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If a democrat took us to war with Iraq, you think they'd be doing this?
 
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MrJayremmie said:
Their motto should be... "News from a conservative point of view" or something like that.
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And maybe the New York Times should change their motto from "All the news that's fit to print," to "All the news that will advance the liberal cause." What do you think?
 
Fox News is kind of like a cult leader. Everyone knows they are a fucking whackjob other than the people who follow them.

-Pop
 
Honestly, I dont' see how you guys can take that video seriously. Most of those clips fused together are completely out of context or weren't even talking about Obama at all. Compilation videos are usually like that. They take words out of context because it makes it more convenient to make their point that way.
 
AmirIcon said:
Honestly, I dont' see how you guys can take that video seriously. Most of those clips fused together are completely out of context or weren't even talking about Obama at all. Compilation videos are usually like that. They take words out of context because it makes it more convenient to make their point that way.
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Have you ever watched five minutes of Fox News?

-Pop
 
The biggest favor Republicans ever did for Democrats was creating right wing media like Fox and talk radio. At first it was effective at gathering those who were politically undecided. That culminated in the election of Dubya and the Republicans running congress.

The problem was that it also created a pretty amazing feedback loop. Staunch Republican voters increasingly only listen to these shows. The most conservative shows do the best, so there's a constant drive to create more and more right wing (and unbalanced media). This drives the voting demographic even further to the right. Which in turn creates a greater market for even more ideologically pure right wing media. Around and around it goes, until there are almost no ideologically impure Republicans (and consequently no viable Republican candidates in the Northeast.)

The Republican party becomes a regional party of the South, the one area of the country with enough ideologically pure voters to actually elect candidates. Democrats win the presidency, the House, the Senate, governorships, etc, in all but the most conservative areas, because they are the only party left that is still accepting moderates.

Arlen Spector, a guy who voted for both Roberts and Alito, just became a Democrat because he didn't stand a chance anymore in Pennsylvania as a Republican. Republican media will rejoice that this ideological impurity (moderate?) has been purged from the party, allowing them to cleanly field a true-red right winger (who will of course get thoroughly stomped in the general election).

Meanwhile, they'll continue to espouse in ever shrinking (but increasingly pure) circles rhetoric that makes the rest of the country scratch our heads.
 
“We should emphasize the things that unite us and make these the only ‘litmus test’ of what constitutes a Republican: our belief in restraining government spending, pro-growth policies, tax reduction, sound national defense, and maximum individual liberty.” He continued, “As to the other issues that draw on the deep springs of morality and emotion, let us decide that we can disagree among ourselves as Republicans and tolerate the disagreement.”
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Amazingly, that was a quote from Ronald Reagan. If he were alive to say that at the last convention, he probably would've been shouted out of the place. Here's a great piece on the subject by Olympia Snow, a Republican from Maine (it's where I lifted the quote):
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/opinion/29snowe.html?_r=1&em

T is disheartening and disconcerting, at the very least, that here we are today — almost exactly eight years after Senator Jim Jeffords left the Republican Party — witnessing the departure of my good friend and fellow moderate Republican, Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, for the Democratic Party. And the announcement of his switch was all the more painful because I believe it didn’t have to be this way. When Senator Jeffords became an independent in 2001, I said it was a sad day for the Republicans, but it would be even sadder if we failed to confront and learn from the devaluation of diversity within the party that contributed to his defection. I also noted that we were far from the heady days of 1998, when Republicans were envisioning the possibility of a filibuster-proof 60-vote margin. (Recall that in the 2000 election, most pundits were shocked when Republicans lost five seats, resulting in a 50-50 Senate.)
I could have hardly imagined then that, in 2009, we would fondly reminisce about the time when we were disappointed to fall short of 60 votes in the Senate. Regrettably, we failed to learn the lessons of Jim Jeffords’s defection in 2001. To the contrary, we overreached in interpreting the results of the presidential election of 2004 as a mandate for the party. This resulted in the disastrous elections of 2006 and 2008, which combined for a total loss of 51 Republicans in the House and 13 in the Senate — with a corresponding shift of the Congressional majority and the White House to the Democrats.
It was as though beginning with Senator Jeffords’s decision, Republicans turned a blind eye to the iceberg under the surface, failing to undertake the re-evaluation of our inclusiveness as a party that could have forestalled many of the losses we have suffered.
It is true that being a Republican moderate sometimes feels like being a cast member of “Survivor” — you are presented with multiple challenges, and you often get the distinct feeling that you’re no longer welcome in the tribe. But it is truly a dangerous signal that a Republican senator of nearly three decades no longer felt able to remain in the party.
Senator Specter indicated that his decision was based on the political situation in Pennsylvania, where he faced a tough primary battle. In my view, the political environment that has made it inhospitable for a moderate Republican in Pennsylvania is a microcosm of a deeper, more pervasive problem that places our party in jeopardy nationwide.
I have said that, without question, we cannot prevail as a party without conservatives. But it is equally certain we cannot prevail in the future without moderates.
In that same vein, I am reminded of a briefing by a prominent Republican pollster after the 2004 election. He was asked what voter groups Republicans might be able to win over. He responded: women in general, married women with children, Hispanics, the middle class in general, and independents.
How well have we done as a party with these groups? Unfortunately, the answer is obvious from the results of the last two elections. We should be reaching out to these segments of our population — not de facto ceding them to the opposing party.
There is no plausible scenario under which Republicans can grow into a majority while shrinking our ideological confines and continuing to retract into a regional party. Ideological purity is not the ticket back to the promised land of governing majorities — indeed, it was when we began to emphasize social issues to the detriment of some of our basic tenets as a party that we encountered an electoral backlash.
It is for this reason that we should heed the words of President Ronald Reagan, who urged, “We should emphasize the things that unite us and make these the only ‘litmus test’ of what constitutes a Republican: our belief in restraining government spending, pro-growth policies, tax reduction, sound national defense, and maximum individual liberty.” He continued, “As to the other issues that draw on the deep springs of morality and emotion, let us decide that we can disagree among ourselves as Republicans and tolerate the disagreement.”
I couldn’t agree more. We can’t continue to fold our philosophical tent into an umbrella under which only a select few are worthy to stand. Rather, we should view an expansion of diversity within the party as a triumph that will broaden our appeal. That is the political road map we must follow to victory.
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ehizzy3 said:
you sure defend fox a lot..nobody is bringing up those stations...
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Of course they're not bringing them up. That's why I had to. Those so-called "mainstream" networks are just as biased in their presentation of the news as Fox is, only on the left side of the political spectrum.

I've watched those networks for years, and they do a very sly job of slanting and spinning the facts to suit their political views. People never used to comment on it, because they didn't have a network like FOX to show them how it could be done differently.
 
SodaPopinski said:
Fox News is kind of like a cult leader. Everyone knows they are a fucking whackjob other than the people who follow them.

-Pop
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and the people who follow them.....are not always what it seems. It seems some self-loathing liberals are obsessed about FOX news...they must watch a lot of it.
 
Of course they're not bringing them up. That's why I had to. Those so-called "mainstream" networks are just as biased in their presentation of the news as Fox is, only on the left side of the political spectrum.
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CNN is nowhere near as bias as MSNBC and FoxNews.
 
CNN's style is less agressive, but they're every bit as biased as those two.
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Not from my experience. Im an independant and didn't have any allegiances before this election and CNN was definitely my station. They lean toward the left but they are much less bias than the other two. They usually have both teh republican and democrat point of view from analysts.
 
MrJayremmie said:
Not from my experience. Im an independant and didn't have any allegiances before this election and CNN was definitely my station. They lean toward the left but they are much less bias than the other two. They usually have both teh republican and democrat point of view from analysts.
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You need to separate news reporting from news analysis. CNN's guy on the right is Alex Castellanos, who makes Alan Colmes look agressive. Everyone else is either left or far left.
 
It seems to me that all of the broadcast and cable news media cater to what their slice of the market wants to hear. Let's face it, most people are looking for corroboration of their own opinions when they choose which network they listen to. Fox caters to the right and virtually everybody else caters to the left...which accounts for the butt-kicking in the ratings department that Fox puts on the other cable news sources.
 
And accounts for lots of fox viewers being un-educated from both points of views on current events, while on fox news things that democrats said are highly scrutinized and twisted to look worse while the right magically looks better, which does not equal to fair and balanced journalism.

MSNBC does the same thing though.
 
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And accounts for lots of fox viewers being un-educated from both points of views on current events, while on fox news things that democrats said are highly scrutinized and twisted to look worse while the right magically looks better, which does not equal to fair and balanced journalism.

MSNBC does the same thing though.
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So, not being fully educated on a right of center view is okay, but not being educated on a left of center is somehow missing something? Exactly when does CNN offer the full spectrum of opinion?
 
So, not being fully educated on a right of center view is okay, but not being educated on a left of center is somehow missing something? Exactly when does CNN offer the full spectrum of opinion?
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You are acting like I'm advocating that channels like MSNBC are better than FoxNews. They are all the same. I simply think CNN is as close to unbias as it gets from these cable news shows. I already said they lean toward the left a bit as well, but its better than either MSNBC or FoxNews.
 
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