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THE HCP

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I just started a thread about the future MVPs and who people on here think they would give it to. Got me to thinking…..

RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW……you are starting a new franchise.

WHO DO YOU BUILD IT AROUND?

My choice is right here…..and it ain’t even close! Some may choose older vets to win immediately, but I gotta’ go with Vic.


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If you want to win a title in the next 5 years I'm picking Jokic

Can't really go wrong with Wemby but I'm not picking him because of injury concern.

I'd probably take Cade or Edwards if you want youth.

SGA/Luka are also good options - which shows how insane that Luka trade was.

Flagg might be in there even a few months into the season but until we see him in NBA games at this moment I'd rank the others higher.

Really can't go wrong with building around any of these guys - ultimately it more comes down to who else is on the roster.
 
THE HCP said:
I just started a thread about the future MVPs and who people on here think they would give it to. Got me to thinking…..

RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW……you are starting a new franchise.

WHO DO YOU BUILD IT AROUND?

My choice is right here…..and it ain’t even close! Some may choose older vets to win immediately, but I gotta’ go with Vic.


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I was sure you’d pick a Laker !!!
 
Wemby, Jokic, Giannis... In that order, for me.

I feel like you could compete without building an elite group around them. So for just starting a brand new franchise they would give you the best chance to win quickly and might give you an edge in free agency.

Once you've built that then as those guys age out you might be able to trade them for draft picks that will help you speed up a "tank type" rebuild.

*Edit* Wendy? Wtf?
 
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Wendy, Jokic, Giannis... In that order, for me.

I feel like you could compete without building an elite group around them. So for just starting a brand new franchise they would give you the best chance to win quickly and might give you an edge in free agency.

Once you've built that then as those guys age out you might be able to trade them for draft picks that will help you speed up a tank type rebuild.
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Giannis is far below the other two and I'd probably put a half dozen younger guys above him. We've just seen far too often how guys without a jump shot rapidly decline in their 30's.
 
I also think it's SGA. Wemby's frame scares me, I hope he doesn't have any injury issues going forward but the injuries he's already had have me worried. I think SGA is better than Ant. I think Flagg is interesting but I'd still go with SGA.
 
blazerkor said:
I also think it's SGA. Wemby's frame scares me, I hope he doesn't have any injury issues going forward but the injuries he's already had have me worried. I think SGA is better than Ant. I think Flagg is interesting but I'd still go with SGA.
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Age is the thing I think people overlook. SGA's current age of 27 isn't old - but its not young for an MVP. It's slightly above average for age.

Since the 1976 merger the only ages with more than two NBA MVPs are all age 24-30

24 - 3 winners
25 - 7 winners
26 - 8 winners
27 - 8 winners
28 - 6 winners
30 - 3 winners

So SGA is in his final 3 years of "peak" NBA MVP type of form. He's still a great player to build a franchise around on a max contract so don't get me wrong, but when there is a 23 year old Anthony Edwards who made the WCF twice as well as many other great younger options I think you have to take one of those younger players.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Age is the thing I think people overlook. SGA's current age of 27 isn't old - but its not young for an MVP. It's slightly above average for age.

Since the 1976 merger the only ages with more than two NBA MVPs are all age 24-30

24 - 3 winners
25 - 7 winners
26 - 8 winners
27 - 8 winners
28 - 6 winners
30 - 3 winners

So SGA is in his final 3 years of "peak" NBA MVP type of form. He's still a great player to build a franchise around on a max contract so don't get me wrong, but when there is a 23 year old Anthony Edwards who made the WCF twice as well as many other great younger options I think you have to take one of those younger players.
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How many 29 year olds won MVP?
 
I couldn’t take SGA first. There’s other guards out there who can put up nearly as good numbers, but barely anybody if there is anybody who can do what Wemby does. My second pick would be Caitlyn Clark obviously.
 
Actually that could be our first thread in the Portland Fire forum….. who is the one wnba player you’d want to build around?
 
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Actually that could be our first thread in the Portland Fire forum….. who is the one wnba player you’d want to build around?
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Sabrina if you want to win championships; Caitlin if you like to see turnovers
 
Flagg hasn't played a game yet so might wait on that one.
SGA obviously just won but he has an incredible group around him so not sure he would be the best.
Jokic is obviously a perennial MVP and will be one for probably 3-4 more years.

Wemby probably gets the vote but he hasn't shown it yet. Lets see if he can make a run in the next year or two.

It's a tough question but If i'm building today for the next 5-10 years yeas it's Wemby.
 
Thinking about this more I'm picking Edwards.

I expect that changes to Flagg after a few weeks of the season.

If Wemby is healthy all year I might consider him. I'd think he's the most likely of these 3 to have an MVP season.
 
Not sure we've ever had so many good options at once? Bright future for the league

If Tatum/Haliburton recover like Durant it would be half the teams in the league.

Jokic
Giannis
SGA
Wemby
Flagg
Luka
Cade
Paolo
Mobley
JJJ
Yang
Edwards
 
Flagg is healthy, young and has a two way game..clearly a franchise player. Yang is also but probably not a franchise player as much as part of a big 3....Wemby has health flags and Jokic is no spring chicken...I'm building around youth and longevity if I choose a franchise player, at this stage it's Flagg. If you need a proven winner on an NBA level to build around, then go with SGA.
 
wizenheimer said:
Sabrina if you want to win championships; Caitlin if you like to see turnovers
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I’ll take the turnovers from a 1st team all league player. As well as the merchandise/tickets/social media and international exposure. Yeah, I’d be cool with that. Especially for a brand new franchise starting from scratch.
 
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I’ll take the turnovers from a 1st team all league player. As well as the merchandise/tickets/social media and international exposure. Yeah, I’d be cool with that. Especially for a brand new franchise starting from scratch.
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relax fanboy....I know you're S2's #1 booster of Clarke, so, I was giving you some shit
 
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