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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetsDaily)</div><div class='quotemain'>In an interview done Wednesday, Lawrence Frank told WFAN that the Nets’ two athletic big men are being moved in and out of games because “right now they don’t complement each other.” Swift is the more skilled and has to be “ready to go”. Of Williams, Frank said “big picture it’s how much of a basketball feel he can continue to develop”, adding “he’s a little bit small to be a 4 man in the NBA and yet he doesn’t have the perimeter skills or feel to be a 3 man”. He needs strength and weight.</div>

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Really, makes sense to me. It would be redundant. Same thing with Boone/Diop.
 
I think Sean should start hitting threes to prove everybody wrong
 
I actually wouldn't mind seeing Boone/Diop. There's a lot of potential for defense-lead fast-breaks there. I'd say its fair that Stro is more able to use his physical tools than Sean, but I disagree that it's because Sean is too weak / light. He's got strength (RJ's "He's strong as an ox" quote from preseason, he scored 22 on the Heat in his first start when they had Shaq), but just doesn't use it because he doesn't box out. Offensive and defensive awareness, along with a deep understanding of the game, is going to make Sean a player.
 
Reminds me of Kenyon's first season when he played a lot of SF...worked because KVH was a perimeter player at PF and then in the offseason he added 15 lbs of muscle and was the starting PF the following season.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually wouldn't mind seeing Boone/Diop. There's a lot of potential for defense-lead fast-breaks there.</div>

No there isn't. The opposing PF would get the ball outside of the paint, make a fake and then blow by which ever player was guarding him for an easy dunk.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Mar 28 2008, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Frank is just a stubborn douche that doesn't know how to use his bigs.</div>

So how would you use the bigs on the Nets roster?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 28 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually wouldn't mind seeing Boone/Diop. There's a lot of potential for defense-lead fast-breaks there.</div>

No there isn't. The opposing PF would get the ball outside of the paint, make a fake and then blow by which ever player was guarding him for an easy dunk.

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So don't use that against a small lineup then. Boone and Diop are the team's best rebounders and post defenders. That's a great catalyst for fast-break ball.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 28 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually wouldn't mind seeing Boone/Diop. There's a lot of potential for defense-lead fast-breaks there.</div>

No there isn't. The opposing PF would get the ball outside of the paint, make a fake and then blow by which ever player was guarding him for an easy dunk.

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So don't use that against a small lineup then. Boone and Diop are the team's best rebounders and post defenders. That's a great catalyst for fast-break ball.
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I'm not talking about the opposing team using a small ball lineup. Against most PF's both Boone and Diop are at a distinct quickness disadvantage and would get blown by.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 28 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 28 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually wouldn't mind seeing Boone/Diop. There's a lot of potential for defense-lead fast-breaks there.</div>

No there isn't. The opposing PF would get the ball outside of the paint, make a fake and then blow by which ever player was guarding him for an easy dunk.

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So don't use that against a small lineup then. Boone and Diop are the team's best rebounders and post defenders. That's a great catalyst for fast-break ball.
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I'm not talking about the opposing team using a small ball lineup. Against most PF's both Boone and Diop are at a distinct quickness disadvantage and would get blown by.
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'Blown by' is a stretch, as that isn't an obtuse problem to the degree you inference, and there really aren't any bigs better at guarding bigger players. Nenad? nope. STRO? lol. Sean? he's got potential being more athletic, but he's too awkward and foul prone.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Mar 28 2008, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Frank is just a stubborn douche that doesn't know how to use his bigs.</div>

AMEN
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 28 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 28 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually wouldn't mind seeing Boone/Diop. There's a lot of potential for defense-lead fast-breaks there.</div>

No there isn't. The opposing PF would get the ball outside of the paint, make a fake and then blow by which ever player was guarding him for an easy dunk.

</div>

So don't use that against a small lineup then. Boone and Diop are the team's best rebounders and post defenders. That's a great catalyst for fast-break ball.
</div>

I'm not talking about the opposing team using a small ball lineup. Against most PF's both Boone and Diop are at a distinct quickness disadvantage and would get blown by.
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'Blown by' is a stretch, as that isn't an obtuse problem to the degree you inference, and there really aren't any bigs better at guarding bigger players. Nenad? nope. STRO? lol. Sean? he's got potential being more athletic, but he's too awkward and foul prone.
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You are missing the point. Playing one at a time just fine. Playing both of them together is problematic.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 28 2008, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 28 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 28 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually wouldn't mind seeing Boone/Diop. There's a lot of potential for defense-lead fast-breaks there.</div>

No there isn't. The opposing PF would get the ball outside of the paint, make a fake and then blow by which ever player was guarding him for an easy dunk.

</div>

So don't use that against a small lineup then. Boone and Diop are the team's best rebounders and post defenders. That's a great catalyst for fast-break ball.
</div>

I'm not talking about the opposing team using a small ball lineup. Against most PF's both Boone and Diop are at a distinct quickness disadvantage and would get blown by.
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'Blown by' is a stretch, as that isn't an obtuse problem to the degree you inference, and there really aren't any bigs better at guarding bigger players. Nenad? nope. STRO? lol. Sean? he's got potential being more athletic, but he's too awkward and foul prone.
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You are missing the point. Playing one at a time just fine. Playing both of them together is problematic.
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The point I was trying to make is that (one of them) + (a worse defender) has not resulted in big men running into the paint without resistence, so how could both of our best big-defenders be worse?

That's a genuine question. I don't see how both of them is worse than just one on the floor because of the following stipulations: Our team defense to guard against penetration relies on a wing+big defending, not both bigs. If we double team a big on the low block we'll condense our wings and have the other guy guard the weak side, but even then we're talking about strength being a factor in defense, not quickness.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Mar 28 2008, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Sean should start hitting threes to prove everybody wrong
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 28 2008, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetsDaily)</div><div class='quotemain'>In an interview done Wednesday, Lawrence Frank told WFAN that the Nets’ two athletic big men are being moved in and out of games because “right now they don’t complement each other.” Swift is the more skilled and has to be “ready to go”. Of Williams, Frank said “big picture it’s how much of a basketball feel he can continue to develop”, adding “he’s a little bit small to be a 4 man in the NBA and yet he doesn’t have the perimeter skills or feel to be a 3 man”. He needs strength and weight.</div>

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Lawrence Frank Interview (mp3) - Joe Benigno & Evan Roberts - WFAN

Really, makes sense to me. It would be redundant. Same thing with Boone/Diop.
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Boone and Diop...redundant. Baloney.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Mar 28 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Reminds me of Kenyon's first season when he played a lot of SF...worked because KVH was a perimeter player at PF and then in the offseason he added 15 lbs of muscle and was the starting PF the following season.</div>

KMart's first season was a lost season because he was recovering from one leg injury and was then hit with another. There were Nets' fans who thought he was a bust at No. 1 overall after that rookie season.

I think the Nets are toying with the idea of having Williams develop skills at the 3. He has some offensive skills that if developed properly could help him. The question is if you do that, do you sacrifice his skillset at the defensive end, that is, shot-blocking.

After listening to Frank, I began to think the Nets brass is divided on what to do with Williams...and I would not be at all surprised to see him traded in a deal to get someone like Brand or O'Neal or someone else like that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Mar 29 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 28 2008, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>

Really, makes sense to me. It would be redundant. Same thing with Boone/Diop.</div>

Boone and Diop...redundant. Baloney.

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What's baloney is your lack of an explanation. Boone and Diop provide the same thing: post defense, shotblocking, rebounding. The only difference is Diop is fatter and Boone is a way better finisher. They both have similar weaknesses: being slow, not all that athletic, and terrible shooters.
 
All i have to say is that Diops D hasnt blown me away, a good example last nite agaisnt the pacers at indy. And the other thing that happens when diop goes in is that our offensive flow goes down to the gutter for some reason when hes in. Im a doubter if we should resign him. It depends on who we pick come draft day.
 
All i have to say is that Diops D hasnt blown me away, a good example last nite agaisnt the pacers at indy. And the other thing that happens when diop goes in is that our offensive flow goes down to the gutter for some reason when hes in. Im a doubter if we should resign him. It depends on who we pick come draft day.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 29 2008, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i would trade sean for brand</div>


I woulnt do that. You have to give him more tme in practice and at the gym. He is very talented and has potential to become an amare type player. You dont just give that up easily because its hard to find. Maybe he has hit rookie wall but he will be back next season at least 10 times better.

Bottom line is he needs time to bulk up and develop.
 
I wouldn't mind letting Diop go. If this team is truly turning into an up-tempo, high scoring team, then he really has no role. I know some people think that he would be of use in the playoffs against the Duncans and Dwight Howards, but I'd rather the Nets spend the money on a pure shooter, and hope that Boone and Williams bulk up.
 
Diop is essential! We can't just get rid of quality post defenders and rebounders, especially young ones. Plus for what reason? Because we hope that Sean and Boone can eventually become this player we need?
 
i'm not trying to cause any arguments here, but why some of you are so high on diop i have no idea. the guy does more bad than good for the nets most games. the guy struggles to drop the ball in the basket from 2 feet away.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Mar 29 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 29 2008, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i would trade sean for brand</div>


I woulnt do that. You have to give him more tme in practice and at the gym. He is very talented and has potential to become an amare type player. You dont just give that up easily because its hard to find. Maybe he has hit rookie wall but he will be back next season at least 10 times better.

Bottom line is he needs time to bulk up and develop.
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You're kidding right?

You wouldn't trade a pothead for an all-star? We'll see about the Amare type player stuff...

On coach Frank, at least he knows that Swift is more talented but I never thought that he would play Swift and Williams together in the first place so I'm not surprised.
 
Me neither. Diop is just a big body. He plays decent D and can block shots sometimes. but thats all u get. nothing else. he is replaceble
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stro6swift @ Mar 29 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Mar 29 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 29 2008, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i would trade sean for brand</div>


I woulnt do that. You have to give him more tme in practice and at the gym. He is very talented and has potential to become an amare type player. You dont just give that up easily because its hard to find. Maybe he has hit rookie wall but he will be back next season at least 10 times better.

Bottom line is he needs time to bulk up and develop.
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You're kidding right?

You wouldn't trade a pothead for an all-star? We'll see about the Amare type player stuff...

On coach Frank, at least he knows that Swift is more talented but I never thought that he would play Swift and Williams together in the first place so I'm not surprised.
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First of all.. i kid you not. brand is 30 and will probably want max money which will leave us in a bad position if we have any hopes on signing lebron. Swat is only 20 years old and needs time to develop like all young players do.
And swift is not more talented than Swat. And they cant play together because they are the same players, so then it comes down to whos better? The obvious pick would be sean williams, and thats why swift is in the doghouse
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>at least he knows that Swift is more talented</div>

More talented? Are you kidding me? The guy has been in the league for 7 years, and barely does anything better than a rookie.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Mar 29 2008, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>at least he knows that Swift is more talented</div>

More talented? Are you kidding me? The guy has been in the league for 7 years, and barely does anything better than a rookie.
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williams will become more talented if he works at it, but at this point in their careers swift is more talented. stro dribbles better, shoots better, passes better, and has more post moves.
 
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