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e_blazer said:
Good grief. Dial back the righteous indignation a couple of clicks. I’m only giving you my take on what kinds of things are typically discussed at Blazers player introduction press conferences. I’ve followed the Blazers for fifty years or so and I have never seen the press in Portland dig in on contract and CBA details at this type of event. I get that a lot of us have questions that we’d like to get Cronin to answer, but to use his former boss’s lingo, many of those details are “proprietary” in that they can impact future negotiations and Cronin’s not under any obligation to share that information with the public.
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Honest question, when have you seen them do it? What other press conferences are there in which these questions would be asked?
 
riverman said:
Now if you have any advice for them as far as gaining access, maybe that would be a good thing to post instead of picking my opinions apart.
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I did post it. You're out of your depth. Eric already said that he's trying all the things you're saying.

Getting people to come on your show isn't an easy thing either. You don't just hit people up on twitter and get them to come on, especially if they have never heard of you.
 
blazerkor said:
I guess I'm just an asshole for thinking he should have been asked about hard capping us and what his thoughts about the luxury tax are this season, since he is a cap expert but fuck anyone with any criticism though right?
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I really don't know what good you guys think that would do

Q: "was it wise to hard cap the team for a player like Payton?"

A: "we value Payton highly and believe he'll be an excellent addition to the team. But to get him we had to exceed the market which was the tax-MLE"
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Q: "will the Blazers try to avoid being a taxpayer this season?"

A: "we'll certainly look at that if it's an option that doesn't conflict with our goals. But it's not a high priority at this time"
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does anybody really think that the Q&A would gone any differently than something like that?
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is the most boomer series of posts I have ever seen.

Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps @hoopsjock and @BonesJones
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I appreciate @riverman's advice!

But yeah, he said to try, I said I did, and then he says fine, don't listen to me.

I literally have tried multiple times and continue to try multiple ways to get ahold of someone. Every new coach or player that comes aboard, I reach out to. Someone telling me to do these things doesn't help me accomplish what I'm already trying to do.
 
e_blazer said:
Good grief. Dial back the righteous indignation a couple of clicks. I’m only giving you my take on what kinds of things are typically discussed at Blazers player introduction press conferences. I’ve followed the Blazers for fifty years or so and I have never seen the press in Portland dig in on contract and CBA details at this type of event. I get that a lot of us have questions that we’d like to get Cronin to answer, but to use his former boss’s lingo, many of those details are “proprietary” in that they can impact future negotiations and Cronin’s not under any obligation to share that information with the public.
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Neil was actually pretty good at an event I attended. He sat there with McGowan for fans and answered a bunch of questions. It was a season ticket holder event I got to be a part of where they had Q&A's for fans with Neil and McGowan. Hopefully, Joe does the same this year.
 
wizenheimer said:
I really don't know what good you guys think that would do

Q: "was it wise to hard cap the team for a player like Payton?"

A: "we value Payton highly and believe he'll be an excellent addition to the team. But to get him we had to exceed the market which was the tax-MLE"
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Q: "will the Blazers try to avoid being a taxpayer this season?"

A: "we'll certainly look at that if it's an option that doesn't conflict with our goals. But it's not a high priority at this time"
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does anybody really think that the Q&A would gone any differently than something like that?
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There's been multiple posts in this thread giving suggestions on more insightful questions than this, but go on man.
 
hoopsjock said:
There's been multiple posts in this thread giving suggestions on more insightful questions than this, but go on man.
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Sure....and some weren't even 'gotcha' questions. I just think it would be next to impossible to get a concise detailed answer about the hard cap or luxury tax. And a presser introducing new players probably isn't the forum for that anyway
 
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hoopsjock said:
I appreciate @riverman's advice!
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thank you....when you told me you tried, you ended that with something about not needing encouragement. Encouragement was meant to show support and that's all. Good luck to you. You're a damned good sports writer in my opinion. In this place a person will get blowback from cheering ..it's a given. Not sure that it hinders anyone in anyway to be encouraged but sure played out that way here.
 
Where’s the part of this thread where people are talking about the context of the press conference?
 
blazerkor said:
Honest question, when have you seen them do it? What other press conferences are there in which these questions would be asked?
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In the past, GMs have done fan events with season ticket holders and even with S2 dreck like yours truly. You never get a full look behind the curtains, but some good questions have been answered. I guess I’m not sure why some of you seem to expect to get the full details.

Regarding whether Bledsoe’s contract is being stretched, I looked it up and, according to Slam, “Teams must inform the league of their intent to stretch a waived player within one business day of the formal termination.”

I’m guessing we’ll see the answer on Spotrac shortly.

Edit: As of now, Spotrac shows the full $3.9M hit being taken this season.
 
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riverman said:
thank you....when you told me you tried, you ended that with something about not needing encouragement. Encouragement was meant to show support and that's all. Good luck to you. You're a damned good sports writer in my opinion. In this place a person will get blowback from cheering ..it's a given. Not sure that it hinders anyone in anyway to be encouraged but sure played out that way here.
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That's because your response came across very poorly. Jacked Ramsays has every single advantage over us. They get mentioned on game broadcasts. They both have their radio shows now. Marang has the established Blazers Edge and the contacts he made from having a pre and post game Blazers show on TV. He literally tried to copy everything we do, thinking he would squash us easily. Well despite all that, we still put up better numbers than him. So you telling me to be more like him is extremely insulting. The way you're talking makes it seem like this is my job and I need to do everything I can to salvage it. I have a family and a successful business. This is a hobby for me.

I've spoken with CJ, off the record.

I've been in a fantasy league with Ant, could talk to him whenever I wanted since.

Like I said, I've tried to get in touch with every single player and coach. Edniesha Curry is someone I'd love to talk to! I watched a video with her talking about how she would ban pick and rolls until high school and it would lead to a fascinating conversation, IMO. I can't force someone to respond.

Within the past couple weeks I've reached out to both Shaedon Sharpe and Jabari Walker. Same with Gary Payton II.

I've tried getting media credentials more times than I can count.

So when you respond by saying, "don't listen to me then," I don't know what you want from me.
 
blazedanugz said:
Where’s the part of this thread where people are talking about the context of the press conference?
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Chauncey and Joe said Drew Eubanks absolutely earned his roster spot this season and GPII and Eubanks talked about how they took the Beavs to a higher level together and couldn't wait to throw lobs for each other again as Blazers....Grant was pretty quiet....Fentris opened with a long rambling tangent where Chauncey said..."man this is a long assed question"....Joe said we have guys who play bigger than they are and have heart...Nurk said it's Chauncey and coach Rogers system that's exciting him to play with Grant this season. Ant said he's happy to be a long term Blazer...it was not a very lively Q and A from the media. Short intro....all in all Joe seemed happy with the core we're building long term and seemed to suggest he's always going to look to get better and make trades if they become available. He said we have a team other teams will be nervous about facing this season.
 
hoopsjock said:
That's because your response came across very poorly. Jacked Ramsays has every single advantage over us. They get mentioned on game broadcasts. They both have their radio shows now. Marang has the established Blazers Edge and the contacts he made from having a pre and post game Blazers show on TV. He literally tried to copy everything we do, thinking he would squash us easily. Well despite all that, we still put up better numbers than him. So you telling me to be more like him is extremely insulting. The way you're talking makes it seem like this is my job and I need to do everything I can to salvage it. I have a family and a successful business. This is a hobby for me.

I've spoken with CJ, off the record.

I've been in a fantasy league with Ant, could talk to him whenever I wanted since.

Like I said, I've tried to get in touch with every single player and coach. Edniesha Curry is someone I'd love to talk to! I watched a video with her talking about how she would ban pick and rolls until high school and it would lead to a fascinating conversation, IMO. I can't force someone to respond.

Within the past couple weeks I've reached out to both Shaedon Sharpe and Jabari Walker. Same with Gary Payton II.

I've tried getting media credentials more times than I can count.

So when you respond by saying, "don't listen to me then," I don't know what you want from me.
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You’re with BlazersUprise right?
 
hoopsjock said:
That's because your response came across very poorly.
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I'm not a Marang fan.although he's not a dumb guy when it comes to hoops..he's pretty arrogant but that's not exclusive to him....Sprague I like to listen to.....I'm a fan of your website....my go to youtube channels are neither Jack Ramsey's nor yours so I follow a couple with very little fan base because I like calm Blazer talk...not into any podcast style that makes me lower the volume on my headset...that's my choice. I keep listening to everyone I can find but my favorites aren't popular. I'll leave you to it. I was under the impression you were interested in making a career out of analysis but now I see it's a hobby for you...that changes things ...Nate's right...it would be too time consuming if you have a day gig and all that. I'll avoid offering you guys any advice in the future...once a teacher always a teacher..it's in my dna but free advice should never be taken as an insult...ever. That was never my intention
 
Stevenson said:
If by Boomer you mean try your best, try and get along, peace and love, well, then thank you!
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No. I mean the out of touch shit that a lot of boomers say about the housing market or the job market or like…. You know…. The real world.
 
blazedanugz said:
Where’s the part of this thread where people are talking about the context of the press conference?
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Natebishop3 said:
They're doing it. They're putting in the work. They're building their reach. They're gathering sources and breaking news. That's how you do it. They have to prove to the Blazers that they're a legit news source and not just fans talking about the team.

It's insulting that you think they just need to, you know, try to get credentials. That's not helpful or encouraging. Just tell them you like their show and help expand their reach by telling other people about their show.
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This.

Considering Torey (at least from my perspective which is limited) said "I'm doing this" and from the ground up him and Eric have built something great.

Credintials will get there, I'm sure. But for a "small" market they are putting in the work to fill the niche in this city and they started from the ground. The fact they are this far and still growing. It's a testament to the work put in. You gotta show the work and effort to get those credentials when you literally didn't have any other pull. That's commendable and in due time they will get there.
 
riverman said:
I said they need to go outside the credentials and start by getting interviews...and that Eric's website is as professional and well written as any out there in my view...my point was don't let that stop you from asking for interviews for the website.....I don't think the youtube channel is the venue...it's not presented like the website is at all. I have steered people to the website...I don't enjoy the youtube channel but that's a choice. I give it a try but it's never kept my attention. Getting interviews is how I thought they could end up with credentials but someone mentioned, summer league is the best place to start . Anybody can go to summer league. Now if you have any advice for them as far as gaining access, maybe that would be a good thing to post instead of picking my opinions apart.
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YouTube isn't the venue? Hm? You think we're going about this the wrong way?

How would you feel if someone, who had little knowledge of your job, started telling you to try harder for that raise you've been busting your ass for for three years and portrayed it as "free advice", and then said you were packing it in, all while saying you weren't doing your job right?

That's exactly what you're doing, but if I point that out, then I'd be wrong for not taking your positive "words of encouragement" as such? That's how this works, right?

Credentials would be nice but they are impossible to get when you barely have a platform. Or else you'd have 50 podcasters in the practice facility. We've had to scratch and claw for every ounce of respect and to build a platform. It's extremely hard to separate yourself when you have to start from nothing and there's thousands of people that would love to do the same thing.

That's why it's comical that you're saying we "packed it in" when we actually have set ourselves apart. The fact that you'd say something like that and act like it's not an insult and then tell Eric to take your words as "free advice" is... something.
 
BonesJones said:
That's why it's comical that you're saying we "packed it in"
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I never, ever said you packed it in.....I said I look to success to learn from, not someone who's packed it in....that was not aimed at you or Eric but as I said.....I'll not be encouraging to you anymore...and I subscribe to your channel...it's just not something I can listen to for long...mostly over volume of delivery...but hey. Good luck.......packed it in was in response to Nate telling me to not insult you by encouraging you...this got real dramatic over a compliment. Weird how support became my character flaw over this topic. If you read insult into that....it's an area you should work on in public relations Torey
 
riverman said:
I never, ever said you packed it in.....I said I look to success to learn from, not someone who's packed it in....that was not aimed at you or Eric but as I said.....I'll not be encouraging to you anymore...and I subscribe to your channel...it's just not something I can listen to for long...mostly over volume of delivery...but hey. Good luck.......packed it in was in response to Nate telling me to not insult you by encouraging you...this got real dramatic over a compliment. Weird how support became my character flaw over this topic. If you read insult into that....it's an area you should work on in public relations Torey
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You know, when pretty much everyone reading your comments sees them as insulting, the flaw might not be in the interpretation, but in the delivery.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
You know, when pretty much everyone reading your comments sees them as insulting, the flaw might not be in the interpretation, but in the delivery.
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well glad to see you speak for everyone ....sounds like it's break time from this place again..I'm not here insulting those guys but I find what you just posted insulting.
 
riverman said:
well glad to see you speak for everyone ....sounds like it's break time from this place again...
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I'm not speaking for anyone--just reading the responses to you in this thread. Has anyone responding to you in this thread indicated that they viewed your comments in a positive light?
 
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