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In his rookie year, he scored 10.4 ppg, grabbed 6.3 rpg, and shot 49.1% from the field in 28.7 mpg. In 2004, he won the NBA's MVP Award.

In his rookie year, he scored 7.6 ppg, grabbed 1.9 rpg, and shot 41.7% from the field in 15.5 mpg. In 2008, he won the NBA's MVP Award.

In his rookie year, he scored 8.9 ppg, grabbed 7.1 rpg, and shot 56.3% from the field in 21.9 mpg. In 2012, 2013, 2014 etc........
 
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I'll hazard a guess and say the first one is Dirk?
 
KingSpeed said:
In his rookie year, he scored 10.4 ppg, grabbed 6.3 rpg, and shot 49.1% from the field. In 2004, he won the NBA's MVP Award.

In his rookie year, he scored 7.6 ppg, grabbed 1.9 rpg, and shot 41.7% from the field. In 2008, he won the NBA's MVP Award.

In his rookie year, he scored 8.9 ppg, grabbed 7.1 rpg, and shot 56.3% from the field. In 2012, 2013, 2014 etc........
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The world ended according to the Mayan calendar.
 
Alright let's try again...Stevie Nash? No it can't be. The rookie supposedly averaged 6.3 rebounds in 15 minutes so it can't be a point guard like Nash. With the high rebound number it has to be a Forward or Center. I think Duncan had way better numbers than that. Hrmph. Without cheating, I'm stumped.

Edit - posted after B-Roy. Oh yeah, forgot about that guy...
 
You guys can see my point though, right? Puts things in perspective.
 
Which point is that? That a guy doesn't need a spectacular rookie season to become an All-Star/MVP in the NBA or that all three of the aforementioned players have won/will win championships...?
 
Deebag said:
Alright let's try again...Stevie Nash? No it can't be. The rookie supposedly averaged 6.3 rebounds in 15 minutes so it can't be a point guard like Nash. With the high rebound number it has to be a Forward or Center. I think Duncan had way better numbers than that. Hrmph. Without cheating, I'm stumped.

Edit - posted after B-Roy. Oh yeah, forgot about that guy...
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I had to edit. My bad. KG played 28.7 mpg and Kobe played 15.5 mpg. Pretty impressive, eh? Our guy averages about a rebound more than KG did his rookie year and does it in 7 less minutes.
 
Deebag said:
Which point is that? That a guy doesn't need a spectacular rookie season to become an All-Star/MVP in the NBA or that all three of the aforementioned players have won/will win championships...?
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Both. The point is that Oden compares very favorably to two MVPs/Champions. I'd say Oden is having a better rookie season than both of them. In other words, Oden is not a dud.
 
I expect this summer will be the breakout time for Greg Oden's game. He'll have had a full summer of not worrying about his knees, some time to reflect on this year's experiences and how to use them to improve, and working with the Blazer's staff on his post game and defense. Next year, the man will be a beast.
 
next year is the year to judge greg oden's potential by. he should be fully recovered from the microfracture surgery and should have a healthy offseason to just work on his game.
 
I would just really like to see Greg in shape and healthy. THAT Greg could really open some eyes. Right now he still looks like he's huffing and puffing.
 
While we're at it....

In his rookie year, he scored 3.3 ppg, dished 2.1 apg, and shot 42.3% from the field in 10.5 mpg. In 2005 & 2006, he won the NBA's MVP Award.

In his rookie year, he scored 8.2 ppg, grabbed 3.4 rpg, and shot 40.5% from the field, including 20.5% from the three point line in 20.4 mpg. In 2007, he won the NBA's MVP Award.

Oden stacks up pretty well, doesn't he?
 
KingSpeed said:
While we're at it....

In his rookie year, he scored 3.3 ppg, dished 2.1 apg, and shot 42.3% from the field in 10.5 mpg. In 2005 & 2006, he won the NBA's MVP Award.

In his rookie year, he scored 8.2 ppg, grabbed 3.4 rpg, and shot 40.5% from the field, including 20.5% from the three point line in 20.4 mpg. In 2007, he won the NBA's MVP Award.

Oden stacks up pretty well, doesn't he?
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True, but thing that Oden is facing that none of those other people had is hype. None of them were #1 draft picks.

Kobe Bryant - picked 13th in 1996.

Kevin Garnett - picked 5th in 1995.

Steve Nash - picked 15th in 1996.

Dirk Nowitzki - picked 9th in 1998,
 
That's true, but it still goes to show that you don't have to fly out of the gate to develop into a legit superstar in this league.
 
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That's true, but it still goes to show that you don't have to fly out of the gate to develop into a legit superstar in this league.
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Good point, and I hope it holds true for Oden as well.
 
KingSpeed said:
That's true, but it still goes to show that you don't have to fly out of the gate to develop into a legit superstar in this league.
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Yes you do! Trade Oden for a conditional 2nd round draft pick. :drumroll::
 
And none of them started with a tough (but non-chronic) injury that set their schedule behind.

Oden is delivering a high level of play, he's just not delivering the minutes to turn in big per-game stats. That matters, but I'd say his high level of play matters more for judging his potential.
 
Minstrel said:
And none of them started with a tough (but non-chronic) injury that set their schedule behind.
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Great point.

Remember Kobe's two airballs in the playoffs against the Jazz? Let's see how Oden does in his first playoffs.

EDIT- I looked it up. Kobe shot THREE airballs in that game.

EDIT- It was 4. My bad. One to potentially win the game and then three in overtime. Ah. Good memories. I loved watching the Jazz kill the Lakers. Maybe again this year in the first round?

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695231964,00.html
 
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Here's a question, who would be a better fit for this current Blazers team: Kevin Durant or Nic Batum?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Here's a question, who would be a better fit for this current Blazers team: Kevin Durant or Nic Batum?
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Kevin Durant any day, all day. I love Batum, but KD would make it impossible for teams to double Brandon and would give us a third player that can create his own shot.

As I wrote that, I realized today is April Fools Day, so I hope this wasn't a joke, and I look like an idiot for actually responding.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Here's a question, who would be a better fit for this current Blazers team: Kevin Durant or Nic Batum?
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Great question. Can't tell how good Durant really is because he's just putting up a lot of points on a bad team but he does shoot a decent percentage. I love Batum and don't want to lose him, but if there was a trade on the table, you'd have to consider it.

Here's some Kobe airball footage, by the way:

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Natebishop3 said:
Here's a question, who would be a better fit for this current Blazers team: Kevin Durant or Nic Batum?
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batum is the better fit. durant is the much better player and the team would be significantly better with him instead of batum.
 
KingSpeed said:
Great question. Can't tell how good Durant really is because he's just putting up a lot of points on a bad team but he does shoot a decent percentage. I love Batum and don't want to lose him, but if there was a trade on the table, you'd have to consider it.

Here's some Kobe airball footage, by the way:

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I remember watching that game and seeing Jerome Kersey on the Laker bench with his hands raised above his head after the final airball, like,"What is this fuckin' rookie doin'?"
 
You guys are serious? I'd love for someone to post a poll on this. I would disappointed if the vote wasn't 90/10 in favor of Durant, and even that would be too low. I'm confident Pritchard, Penn, and Nate would all agree with me and wouldn't think twice about it.

Maybe if you mean "fit" as locker room chemistry, maybe I'd have to think about it, but KD seems like he's got an easy going personality that would fit perfectly in Portland.
 
Durant, easily. Except in rare cases (which usually turns out to be a case of overrated talent, not too much talent), you fit the team around talent, not the other way around. Batum is a very nice talent, Durant is a potential Hall of Fame talent. There's no comparison and I'm a huge Batum fan.
 
Tince said:
Kevin Durant any day, all day. I love Batum, but KD would make it impossible for teams to double Brandon and would give us a third player that can create his own shot.

As I wrote that, I realized today is April Fools Day, so I hope this wasn't a joke, and I look like an idiot for actually responding.
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My answer is Durant, but I was curious what some people would say :grin:
 
Tince said:
You guys are serious? I'd love for someone to post a poll on this. I would disappointed if the vote wasn't 90/10 in favor of Durant, and even that would be too low. I'm confident Pritchard, Penn, and Nate would all agree with me and wouldn't think twice about it.

Maybe if you mean "fit" as locker room chemistry, maybe I'd have to think about it, but KD seems like he's got an easy going personality that would fit perfectly in Portland.
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i think batum is the better fit for the portland team meaning that his game fits in better with the rest of the team than durant's. but it's also very clear that durant is the much better player and the team would be much better off with him(and anyone would be crazy to not want durant on the team over batum). that just doesn't necessarily mean that he "fits" better, just that he is much better.
 
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