Bogus! Fuck ICE (6 Viewers)

[Rastapopoulos]

No background check, lol.

You’ve Heard About Who ICE Is Recruiting. The Truth Is Far Worse. I’m the Proof.

What happens when you do minimal screening before hiring agents, arming them, and sending them into the streets? We're all finding out.

slate.com

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

You've seen nothing in the thread that makes you care about what ICE is doing and how this administration is using them?

You've seen nothing in the news that makes you care about what ICE is doing and how this administration is using them?

Lol. I knew you would take it wrong…

Of course i see things wrong, but thats irrelevant to my comment about vandalism.
Do you think vandalizing is going to make ice be nice? Stop what they are doing? Do you think public support for ice will diminish if people vandalize property?

 

[crandc]

One side murdered a woman. Other side painted on a building. They are not equivalent.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Chris Craig]

I hit a girl at 50 mph who rolled over my hood. No internal bleeding and was released from the hospital before i could get there and see how bad she was.

50? Wow. Glad she was ok.

I got hit crossing an umarked (no light) crosswalk on Powell when I was a teenager. The cars in the first lane stopped. There was a long line. I couldn't see the other lane. My friends behind me were hurrying me to go. I made the wrong assumption that any car in the other lane would see the cars were stopped and, also stopped...you know common sense.

Nope. Lady hit me going thirty. I went over her hood, broke the driver's side mirror, flipped, landed ass first against the back door, leaving an imprint, bounced off, flew through the air, hit the ground, and rolled. I was unconscious after getting hit, until I hit the ground. I then dragged myself to the side of the road.

 

[Chris Craig]

Don't take this the wrong way, but i don't care about this administration or ice.
The fact is vandalization hurts their neighbors and themselves far more than any change it brings about.
On an individual level, i don't see how anyone can think there is any positivity from vandalizing anything.
unless the desire is total anarchy and no more civil law, then It must make sense… i guess.

Here is the key: vandalism is a low form of terrorism and terrorism has a 0% success rate. In fact it almost alway strengthens the resolve of the opposition. Vandalizers are doing themselves and their cause no good.
It only gives cause for the opposition to get more aggressive.
Those who vandalize, in my opinion, are low iq folks who arent able to grasp the bigger picture. Its always acts of emotional rage instead of reasonable thinking.

Vandalism is not terrorism. Its a crime for sure, and I don't care for it, but it's not terrorism. Labeling things that aren't terrorism, terrorism is very dangerous.

 

[julius]

Vandalism is not terrorism. Its a crime for sure, and I don't care for it, but it's not terrorism. Labeling things that aren't terrorism, terrorism is very dangerous.

It's also fascism 101.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Article links:

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[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Vandalism is not terrorism. Its a crime for sure, and I don't care for it, but it's not terrorism. Labeling things that aren't terrorism, terrorism is very dangerous.

Labeling anything that isnt is dangerous. Happens every day in this forum. But yes, to me, it’s a form of low level terrorism. Destroying another's property can scare the property owners. Its intimidation with an attempt to terror.
When rioters block streets and spray paint a car trying to get to work, do you think the driver isn't terrified? Whether the intent was to terror or not, the outcome is the same.

So yes, vandalism is a low form of terror.

Also, no one ever said vandalism is the same. No one implied it.


But you know what is the sam? The lady murdered in the subway while commuters did nothing while she bled out.

Where is the outrage on this forum for that?
Selective outrage is prominent on this forum.

The fact is, which was my point, which everyone is skirting in a vailed attempt to say im wrong on something, is that vandalism is a low iq reaction of emotion. It has never helped and has always strengthened the oposition.

Anyone have any comment on that point?

Its crazy how far some will go to disagree with someone they actually agree with while completely ignoring the point being made.…

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Labeling anything that isnt is dangerous. Happens every day in this forum. But yes, to me, it’s a form of low level terrorism. Destroying another's property can scare the property owners. Its intimidation with an attempt to terror.
When rioters block streets and spray paint a car trying to get to work, do you think the driver isn't terrified? Whether the intent was to terror or not, the outcome is the same.

So yes, vandalism is a low form of terror.

Also, no one ever said vandalism is the same. No one implied it.


But you know what is the sam? The lady murdered in the subway while commuters did nothing while she bled out.

Where is the outrage on this forum for that?
Selective outrage is prominent on this forum.

The fact is, which was my point, which everyone is skirting in a vailed attempt to say im wrong on something, is that vandalism is a low iq reaction of emotion. It has never helped and has always strengthened the oposition.

Anyone have any comment on that point?

Its crazy how far some will go to disagree with someone they actually agree with while completely ignoring the point being made.…

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[crandc]

If you ever wondered what German people were doing when fascism was consolidated, we are doing it now.

Opinion | We Are the Bystanders This Time

I used to think Americans were different from Germans.

www.nytimes.com

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Anyone with compassion thinks any wrongful murder is heartbreaking.

Just because it isn't talked about it doesn't make it any less so.

As a community we need to stop with this what about ism though. We could spend all day talking about each and every horrific situation and never make any progress.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Anyone with compassion thinks any wrongful murder is heartbreaking.

Just because it isn't talked about it doesn't make it any less so.

As a community we need to stop with this what about ism though. We could spend all day talking about each and every horrific situation and never make any progress.

Okay. So then when i was chastised for not discussing other things in this forum, where were you to say this? See? Selective outrage and selective bias are rampant around here. But those in that circle aren't able to see it.
Those who don't subscribe to it, see it clearly.

One need look no further than Slys first response to my post about vandalism.
Instead of agreeing i was asked if i don't care a out what ice is doing, etc.

So to be clear, if anyone else here doesn't share in written form that they have compassion for a death its okay, but if I dont, I am questioned as if I dont l have compassion?

Or chastised like i was in some other thread about cars driving thru people i think it was?

Like i said. This forum is rampant with selective outrage and biases.

 

[Chris Craig]

Labeling anything that isnt is dangerous. Happens every day in this forum. But yes, to me, it’s a form of low level terrorism. Destroying another's property can scare the property owners. Its intimidation with an attempt to terror.
When rioters block streets and spray paint a car trying to get to work, do you think the driver isn't terrified? Whether the intent was to terror or not, the outcome is the same.

So yes, vandalism is a low form of terror.

Also, no one ever said vandalism is the same. No one implied it.


But you know what is the sam? The lady murdered in the subway while commuters did nothing while she bled out.

Where is the outrage on this forum for that?
Selective outrage is prominent on this forum.

The fact is, which was my point, which everyone is skirting in a vailed attempt to say im wrong on something, is that vandalism is a low iq reaction of emotion. It has never helped and has always strengthened the oposition.

Anyone have any comment on that point?

Its crazy how far some will go to disagree with someone they actually agree with while completely ignoring the point being made.…

We disagree with vandalism being terrorism. Its a crime. It stupid. We agree on that..as have others here.

The current administration is implying things are terrorism that are not. They call the lady in Minnesota they killed a terrorist. I don't see it. Did she commit a crime? Maybe. Fleeing? Was it terrorism? No. At worst it was a scared woman who saw a gun and tried to take off. Did her car come in contact with the agent? Maybe. Did he create the contact? Maybe. Did she? Maybe. But, that's for the court of law to decide. Find her later and arrest her. You have her plates. Whatever she did, it didn't equate to being shot in the face three times. The second and third shots are certainly not justified.

And, it's not just her. Anyone who doesn't agree with Trump is labeled and radical or a domestic terrorist. An enemy of the people Its ridiculous. Its terrifying.

Is what ICE is doing not terrorism? I know you didn't say otherwise. Just wondering. Wearing masks, no identification, sometimes in civilian clothes, civilian cars, going around and destroying people's cars, pulling them out violently, bashing in people's doors, no warrants, going after people in schools. Its terror.

I am outraged at the subway story. Those people should have helped. I would have. It was terrible. No one here disagrees it was terrible or that the guy shouldn't be in jail. He should not have been let out of jail on bail to do that. It was terrible.

I'm not trying to disagree with you to make a point. I'm making a point. We can't call things that aren't terrorism, terrorism. Its dangerous.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

We disagree with vandalism being terrorism. Its a crime. It stupid. We agree on that..as have others here.

The current administration is implying things are terrorism that are not. They call the lady in Minnesota they killed a terrorist. I don't see it. Did she commit a crime? Maybe. Fleeing? Was it terrorism? No. At worst it was a scared woman who saw a gun and tried to take off. Did her car come in contact with the agent? Maybe. Did he create the contact? Maybe. Did she? Maybe. But, that's for the court of law to decide. Find her later and arrest her. You have her plates. Whatever she did, it didn't equate to being shot in the face three times. The second and third shots are certainly not justified.

And, it's not just her. Anyone who doesn't agree with Trump is labeled and radical or a domestic terrorist. An enemy of the people Its ridiculous. Its terrifying.

Is what ICE is doing not terrorism? I know you didn't say otherwise. Just wondering. Wearing masks, no identification, sometimes in civilian clothes, civilian cars, going around and destroying people's cars, pulling them out violently, bashing in people's doors, no warrants, going after people in schools. Its terror.

I am outraged at the subway story. Those people should have helped. I would have. It was terrible. No one here disagrees it was terrible or that the guy shouldn't be in jail. He should not have been let out of jail on bail to do that. It was terrible.

I'm not trying to disagree with you to make a point. I'm making a point. We can't call things that aren't terrorism, terrorism. Its dangerous.

They did? Sly said any vandalism is wrong and when i agreed and mentioned it also affecte tax payers, i was told no, thats all out the window. Ot one person has agreed with me that vandalism is wrong and a low iq emotion. All ive had is my compassion questioned… not one person has said, i agree with you…