Bogus! Fuck ICE (4 Viewers)

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Chris Craig]

I would say what ice is doing isnt terrorism. I would say HOW they are doing it is terrorism. A small but important difference.
I agree with either getting illegals out of the country or get them on the up and up paying taxes. How we are doing it is very wrong.

I also agree, there are illegal immigrants here, and I'm fine with ICE arresting and deporting them, especially if they are violent criminals. I don't think most people here are against that.

There is a way to do that respectfully, within the law, and peacefully as possible. We agree that's not happening. Hiding behind masks, no identity, no accountability. Just a bunch of agents acting like Thugs, basically violenty kidnapping people off the streets, breaking into their cars and homes, going into schools, etc.

That is terror my friend.

 

[Chris Craig]

Two sides to the trump coin. Anyone who agrees with Trump on anything is a racist sexist supporter.

So its okay for one side to make dangerous comments, but not the other…

One side is doing more than making comments. Anyone who disagrees with Trump is being labeled an enemy of he people or the enemy within. If people put together protests, even non violent ones, they are being called domestic terrorists (I get if your putting together a violent on...though I don't think people are necessarily doing that...I think they can become violent, which sucks). Its crazy.

There's name calling and then there is going after people for not believing the same thing.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

They did? Sly said any vandalism is wrong and when i agreed and mentioned it also affecte tax payers, i was told no, thats all out the window. Ot one person has agreed with me that vandalism is wrong and a low iq emotion. All ive had is my compassion questioned… not one person has said, i agree with you…

In a thread that is over 1100 posts long, and one up until now, you have remained silent in, and the one topic of some really horrible shit that is affecting many people in this forum, myself included, and the one thing, the one thing you like and want to discuss is vandalism bad.

Sir, my wish that people protest and do not commit vandalism while doing so is because it could cause things to escalate further than they already are, and possibly hurt, my father, my uncle, my stepdaughter, and my granddaughter.

I literally have (brown) skin in this fucked up racist game.

I'm fucking sorry, but of all the people I have to worry about in this evil situation, tax fucking payers is not one.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

In a thread that is over 1100 posts long, and one up until now, you have remained silent in, and the one topic of some really horrible shit that is affecting many people in this forum, myself included, and the one thing, the one thing you like and want to discuss is vandalism bad.

Sir, my wish that people protest and do not commit vandalism while doing so is because it could cause things to escalate further than they already are, and possibly hurt, my father, my uncle, my stepdaughter, and my granddaughter.

I literally have (brown) skin in this fucked up racist game.

I'm fucking sorry, but of all the people I have to worry about in this evil situation, tax fucking payers is not one.

So you don't subscribe to what jfizzleraider said that one doesnt have to comment on everything?

Isnt it a bit presumptuous to judge because I have not previously posted on this thread?

Did it occur to you that maybe so far, I've agreed with the thread but commented on vandalism because i read someone else disagree with you about it, so i added my post?

I mean if that is how we judge people then everyone in this forum who never commented on the death of the girl in the subway supports criminals being free, right?

It seems you went right to judging and questioning my compassion in an instant without another thought of there possibly being anything other than I support how ice is doing things.
which i do not.
Am I supposed to preface every post like that? Cause i see many many posters not doing so and it seems to be fine. Their compassion or caring isnt questioned.
One can think ice is wrong in their actions without having to post so in an 1100 post thread where everyone is saying the same thing.
Im clueless as to how this went so downhill so quick. I was agreeing with you and added tax payers have to pay for it.
Instead of saying true, but that isn't your concern, you said no, its out of the window. And then questioned my compassion in your next post.

You dont say shit to Stren when he runs around saying fuck certain people, but have an issue with me adding tax payers have to pay???

You don't see how i could think there is serious bias going on?
Did you ever once ask the forum if anyone had reached out to me to see if I was ok when it has issues with me like you did Stren?

Make it make sense….

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

I also agree, there are illegal immigrants here, and I'm fine with ICE arresting and deporting them, especially if they are violent criminals. I don't think most people here are against that.

There is a way to do that respectfully, within the law, and peacefully as possible. We agree that's not happening. Hiding behind masks, no identity, no accountability. Just a bunch of agents acting like Thugs, basically violenty kidnapping people off the streets, breaking into their cars and homes, going into schools, etc.

That is terror my friend.

I 100% agree. Im sure that wont stop some from finding something in this post they can negatively judge me about though…

 

[Chris Craig]

Wait. Sly agreed with me?

I must have missed where both you and him said i was right or agreed with me.

I know there are some, but some like Stren cant handle a different opinion. Goes from thread to thread telling some people to fuck off and blah blah blah. Nothing of relevance to add, just like his last post here, but instead of anyone being impartial and saying so, they push back on me.

How one cant see this total bias, double standard hypocrisy is actually understandable…if one comes to understand this place can be just as fascist as those they rail against.

Per Stren, I'm not allowed to give my opinion. BUt he can run around telling people to fuck off and no one says anything. Instead we were asked if anyone has ask Stren how he is doing? Have compassion for him when he has zero for anyone who has a different opinion than him?

Make it make sense?????

In different posts, we agreed with the it's stupid and a crime part or we both at least made that point.

Stren is not the authority here. He has opinions like everyone else. I don't know why you think what he or anyone else says is law. You can share your opinion and he can share his.

I thought he had cooled off a bit with his posts after leaving his moderator posts. I, Sly, and the other mods try to read everything we can. We miss stuff. We are human. Report it, if he or anyone is personally attacking you. We will deal with it.

I have compassion for everyone here, whether I agree with them or not. His posts can be temperamental, just like yours. But, he does also share good input here, just like you.

Stren has compassion. If you met him you would know that. Alot of his anger these days is because he has compassion. He sometimes gets a little bull headed, just like you, and writes before he thinks. He has come back and apologized for some of his hotheadedness. That happens. I get hotheaded sometimes too. Most people here do.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So you don't subscribe to what jfizzleraider said that one doesnt have to comment on everything?

Isnt it a bit presumptuous to judge because I have not previously posted on this thread?

Did it occur to you that maybe so far, I've agreed with the thread but commented on vandalism because i read someone else disagree with you about it, so i added my post?

I mean if that is how we judge people then everyone in this forum who never commented on the death of the girl in the subway supports criminals being free, right?

It seems you went right to judging and questioning my compassion in an instant without another thought of there possibly being anything other than I support how ice is doing things.
which i do not.
Am I supposed to preface every post like that? Cause i see many many posters not doing so and it seems to be fine. Their compassion or caring isnt questioned.
One can think ice is wrong in their actions without having to post so in an 1100 post thread where everyone is saying the same thing.
Im clueless as to how this went so downhill so quick. I was agreeing with you and added tax payers have to pay for it.
Instead of saying true, but that isn't your concern, you said no, its out of the window. And then questioned my compassion in your next post.

You dont say shit to Stren when he runs around saying fuck certain people, but have an issue with me adding tax payers have to pay???

You don't see how i could think there is serious bias going on?
Did you ever once ask the forum if anyone had reached out to me to see if I was ok when it has issues with me like you did Stren?

Make it make sense….

Again, 1100 posts and this is the hill you choose to die on?!

We can agree on something but our reasons can be different.

We can both agree that rape is bad. I think it's bad because of the violence involved and you can feel that rape is bad because it makes chicks fat if they get pregnant. We both agree it's bad, but we don't agree why it's bad. And we never will.

We both agree that vandalism is bad. I think it's bad because it could cause the violence by ICE to escalate further and quicker, and you think it's bad because it's going to cost you money.

To me, human suffering and abuse ranks far far higher than money.

 

[Phatguysrule]

 

[Strenuus]

Lmfao the level of hypocrisy never ceases to amaze. Anyone gonna call this guy out who, for over a year, intentionally pissed many people off under a mod protection where we couldn't put him on ignore?
I mean really. Looord almighty is absolutely correct.


I cannot be the only sane one here who sees this complete double standard on a regular basis.


I love how i entered this with a simple add on, agreeing with a post and most everyone has twisted it around and then complains about the reaction they get to the double standards they post.

Open your eyes folks….stop being so damn quick to judge…..

Cute.

I didnt get banned, told to not be in the OT section, but still do.

Thats on you.

Next time, quote me.

Blocked since you couldnt follow basic instructions.

Not that I ever read anything you ever write anymore since it was just whining and being the victim every time I did read it.

Have a good time!

 

[Strenuus]

And just so people know: they are on ignore and will not be taken off. So the conversation will not go further.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Again, 1100 posts and this is the hill you choose to die on?!

We can agree on something but our reasons can be different.

We can both agree that rape is bad. I think it's bad because of the violence involved and you can feel that rape is bad because it makes chicks fat if they get pregnant. We both agree it's bad, but we don't agree why it's bad. And we never will.

We both agree that vandalism is bad. I think it's bad because it could cause the violence by ICE to escalate further and quicker, and you think it's bad because it's going to cost you money.

To me, human suffering and abuse ranks far far higher than money.

Gosh Sly, i never said i didn't agree with you. But one can also say “i agree but for different reasons”. Instead of insisting someone is dyeing on a hill….or questioning their compassion…

 

[barfo]

I 100% agree. Im sure that wont stop some from finding something in this post they can negatively judge me about though…

You left the apostrophe out of "I'm".

barfo

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Cute.

I didnt get banned, told to not be in the OT section, but still do.

Thats on you.

Next time, quote me.

Blocked since you couldnt follow basic instructions.

Not that I ever read anything you ever write anymore since it was just whining and being the victim every time I did read it.

Have a good time.

Check this guy out. Doesnt quote me in his post about me. Then tells me to quote him next time. Has no clue how childish his tantrums are.
Wants to forbid people from discussing things because he cant control his emotions.

What a tool of a post.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Gosh Sly, i never said i didn't agree with you. But one can also say “i agree but for different reasons”. Instead of insisting someone is dyeing on a hill….or questioning their compassion…

Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?

Here is your original post and here is my reply. There was nothing mean, rude, or hostile about my reply. I didn't insult you, I was respectful. You keep going back to this and I just don't get it.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Of course you don't see this shit in Louisiana, Florida or Texas. Those racist fucks have already drunk the Koolaid and want more, more, more. The protestors ARE NOT the provocateurs. They are simply responding to the provocateurs. Those people are giving Trump virtually everything he is aiming for, except that (at least for now) they are not physically attacking the ICE thugs and giving Dumbshit an excuse to sic the military on them. Fox hasn't seen shit yet. Trump will get tired of waiting and do something very stupid to try incite a violent response. Probably his version of Pearl Harbor or 9/11. Whatever it takes for him to rationalize canceling the elections. Then of course Fox will again blame the protesters for whatever happens. No matter what happens, the morally bankrupt Right will blame the protesters. It's a rigged game, one that possibly only shocking and prolonged violence will change.....it sucks, but the legitimate choices are getting fewer and fewer......

 

[Chris Craig]

Check this guy out. Doesnt quote me in his post about me. Then tells me to quote him next time. Has no clue how childish his tantrums are.
Wants to forbid people from discussing things because he cant control his emotions.

What a tool of a post.

You get emotional too. Block him. He already blocked you. Ignore him. Its just not worth it to focus on trivial things with such serious things going on. This thread was created to talk and speak out about some serious serious shit. I'm done with cat fights

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

In different posts, we agreed with the it's stupid and a crime part or we both at least made that point.

Stren is not the authority here. He has opinions like everyone else. I don't know why you think what he or anyone else says is law. You can share your opinion and he can share his.

I thought he had cooled off a bit with his posts after leaving his moderator posts. I, Sly, and the other mods try to read everything we can. We miss stuff. We are human. Report it, if he or anyone is personally attacking you. We will deal with it.

I have compassion for everyone here, whether I agree with them or not. His posts can be temperamental, just like yours. But, he does also share good input here, just like you.

Stren has compassion. If you met him you would know that. Alot of his anger these days is because he has compassion. He sometimes gets a little bull headed, just like you, and writes before he thinks. He has come back and apologized for some of his hotheadedness. That happens. I get hotheaded sometimes too. Most people here do.

I have met Stren. Ive also defended him on numerous occasions, bit no longer. The double standards are just too much.

And i have also apologized at times, but Stren is an angel to some and im…evil. His apology is accepted with passion and mines rejected with disdain.

Like, im nervous im gonna get banned but for what? Trying to discuss vandalism and defending myself against accusations questioning my compassion?

But a guy can go around thread to thread saying fuck people and… lets have compassion for him.

No biases around here at all.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?

Here is your original post and here is my reply. There was nothing mean, rude, or hostile about my reply. I didn't insult you, I was respectful. You keep going back to this and I just don't get it.

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Nothing Sly. It was the next post questioning my compassion and your reasoning behind it. And then you getting angry and cussing at me..

You get emotional too. Block him. He already blocked you. Ignore him. Its just not worth it to focus on trivial things with such serious things going on. This thread was created to talk and speak out about some serious serious shit. I'm done with cat fights

Here is the thing. Why doesn't anyone tell him to ignore me instead of making his snide comments? Why is it me?
How can you not see how i feel treated unfairly when he can talk shit no one says amything but if someone responss rhey need to put him on ignore? Why didn't you first tell him to put me on ignore? He was clearly baiting me. Go after the person innitially creating issues. Dont get mad at the response he gets to his baiting post.
Its this behavior that is rampant in our society and no one is addressing it, but it is way more serious than it appears. People who rant like him scare me. Will they put that anger into physical action?

Its hilarious how i have to ignore, i have to stay out of threads, but the people who actively initiate cat fights get off scott free.


Again… make it make sense? It doesn't and never will…
Ill move on before i get banned again for trying to add my opinion about vandalism….

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Here is our next interaction...

Don't take this the wrong way, but i don't care about this administration or ice.

You've seen nothing in the thread that makes you care about what ICE is doing and how this administration is using them?

You've seen nothing in the news that makes you care about what ICE is doing and how this administration is using them?

Sir, that's a pretty bold way to continue a conversation in a thread about this administration and how they are using ICE.

Then you followed it up with you knew I would take it the wrong way.

I didn't take it anyway. I politely asked for more of an explanation on what you posted.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Nothing Sly. It was the next post questioning my compassion and your reasoning behind it. And then you getting angry and cussing at me..

Here is the thing. Why doesn't anyone tell him to ignore me instead of making his snide comments? Why is it me?
How can you not see how i feel treated unfairly when he can talk shit no one says amything but if someone responss rhey need to put him on ignore? Why didn't you first tell him to put me on ignore? He was clearly baiting me. Go after the person innitially creating issues. Dont get mad at the response he gets to his baiting post.
Its this behavior that is rampant in our society and no one is addressing it, but it is way more serious than it appears. People who rant like him scare me. Will they put that anger into physical action?

Its hilarious how i have to ignore, i have to stay out of threads, but the people who actively initiate cat fights get off scott free.


Again… make it make sense? It doesn't and never will…
Ill move on before i get banned again for trying to add my opinion about vandalism….

Here is our next interaction...





Sir, that's a pretty bold way to continue a conversation in a thread about this administration and how they are using ICE.

Then you followed it up with you knew I would take it the wrong way.

I didn't take it anyway. I politely asked for more of an explanation on what you posted.

You totally truncated my post in that quote.
Fake news twisted to fit your narrative. I even followed it up with an explanation you omitted from this timeline.

Be better.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Nothing Sly. It was the next post questioning my compassion and your reasoning behind it. And then you getting angry and cussing at me..

I did no such thing; I asked you politely for more information.

Later on, after I see multiple posts from you mentioning me and how terrible my interaction with you was and how I did this and said this, yes, I got pissed.

 

[Chris Craig]

I have met Stren. Ive also defended him on numerous occasions, bit no longer. The double standards are just too much.

And i have also apologized at times, but Stren is an angel to some and im…evil. His apology is accepted with passion and mines rejected with disdain.

Like, im nervous im gonna get banned but for what? Trying to discuss vandalism and defending myself against accusations questioning my compassion?

But a guy can go around thread to thread saying fuck people and… lets have compassion for him.

No biases around here at all.

Stren is neither an angel or evil to anyone here. Either are you. He's not allowed to say fuck you. Report it.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

@SlyPokerDog

Here are my full posts you totally edited and omitted…

Don't take this the wrong way, but i don't care about this administration or ice.
The fact is vandalization hurts their neighbors and themselves far more than any change it brings about.
On an individual level, i don't see how anyone can think there is any positivity from vandalizing anything.
unless the desire is total anarchy and no more civil law, then It must make sense… i guess.

Here is the key: vandalism is a low form of terrorism and terrorism has a 0% success rate. In fact it almost alway strengthens the resolve of the opposition. Vandalizers are doing themselves and their cause no good.
It only gives cause for the opposition to get more aggressive.
Those who vandalize, in my opinion, are low iq folks who arent able to grasp the bigger picture. Its always acts of emotional rage instead of reasonable thinking.

Lol. I knew you would take it wrong…

Of course i see things wrong, but thats irrelevant to my comment about vandalism.
Do you think vandalizing is going to make ice be nice? Stop what they are doing? Do you think public support for ice will diminish if

 

[Chris Craig]

You totally truncated my post in that quote.
Fake news twisted to fit your narrative. I even followed it up with an explanation you omitted from this timeline.

Be better.

He wasn't accusing you of anything. He wasn't making a judgement. He was asking you. Its hard to know where you stand on a lot of things because you don't share how you feel or what you think about a lot of things on here. Its just a matter of wanting to know more man. Its not a slight at you.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You totally truncated my post in that quote.
Fake news twisted to fit your narrative. I even followed it up with an explanation you omitted from this timeline.

Be better.

Truncated?!? I stopped at your first line and asked for further clarification.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

@SlyPokerDog

Here are my full posts you totally edited and omitted…

Again, I asked about the first line of your statement at the time you made it.

I quoted that line.

I did not edit it.

I did not change it.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

I did no such thing; I asked you politely for more information.

Later on, after I see multiple posts from you mentioning me and how terrible my interaction with you was and how I did this and said this, yes, I got pissed.

You mistook me saying i don't care about what trump or ice is doing because its irrelevant to vandalism as me not caring what they are doing. And questioned my compassion about it. I asked you to please dont get me wrong. I thought i clarified i was talking about vandalism and not ice or trump. Because i hadn't previously commented in this thread, you questioned my compassion.

 

[Phatguysrule]