Fuck ObamaCare

[magnifier661]

If any of you rich motherfuckers are looking to donate to a charity soon, this site will tell you how much that charity really does and which charities use your money the most efficiently (lives saved).

Awesome link man! Thanks! I really want to set up aquaponic systems for needy areas. Training them to grow their own food and save lives!

 

[barfo]

Based on the new ObamaCare "Health Care Reform Act"; here is the list of new changes for 2013. All I got to say is FUCK OBAMA and this piece of shit program. I just received this from my accountant.

Two changes for 2013 that come from the Affordable Care Act affects "high income" taxpayers. The new tax rule requires an additional 0.9 % medicare tax to be paid when there is an earned income greater than $200,000 (me).

The next change, and perhaps one of the most confusing for high income taxpayers, is the new 3.8% medicare surtax on Net Investment Income. Taxpayers with an income greater than $250,000 (me). My additional tax is $2,047.

Further bad news is my tax bracket is now 39.6%, which results in an additional $114,433.

So possibly a quadruple whammy tax increase. You will be paying a total of $116,480 to federal.

This makes me so fucking angry right now! This doesn't even include the 11 fucking percent I'm paying to the state of California

If the hike in the top rate from 35% to 39.6% costs you an extra $114K, then you must be making somewhere in the neighborhood of $3 million/year. Maybe you do... but then maybe you should be out shopping for a new Bugatti instead of worrying about this chump change.

If you aren't making $3 million/year, then rather than getting mad at the government, maybe you should consider firing your accountant.

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

If the hike in the top rate from 35% to 39.6% costs you an extra $114K, then you must be making somewhere in the neighborhood of $3 million/year. Maybe you do... but then maybe you should be out shopping for a new Bugatti instead of worrying about this chump change.

If you aren't making $3 million/year, then rather than getting mad at the government, maybe you should consider firing your accountant.

barfo

You read it wrong. The "additional" is accounting for the 39+% of my fed tax.

 

[barfo]

You read it wrong. The "additional" is accounting for the 39+% of my fed tax.

Oh, I get it now. Sorry, I thought you were complaining specifically about Obamacare, when in fact you were just giving a laundry list of the taxes you don't like to pay. My bad

Of course, I should have known that, since the 39.6% tax rate doesn't have anything to do with Obamacare.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Oh, I get it now. Sorry, I thought you were complaining specifically about Obamacare, when in fact you were just giving a laundry list of the taxes you don't like to pay. My bad

Of course, I should have known that, since the 39.6% tax rate doesn't have anything to do with Obamacare.

barfo

Thats right all the new taxes that come with Abortioncare are on top of the already high income taxes. Mags hasn't even figured out yet that he has to pay taxes for each employee that he covers with healthcare.

 

[magnifier661]

Oh, I get it now. Sorry, I thought you were complaining specifically about Obamacare, when in fact you were just giving a laundry list of the taxes you don't like to pay. My bad

Of course, I should have known that, since the 39.6% tax rate doesn't have anything to do with Obamacare.

barfo

3.8% is a big fucking hike liberal! The 39% is just fuel on the fire; which Obama passed. I refer to Obama as ombamacare now because that's all he gives a shit about.

 

[barfo]

3.8% is a big fucking hike liberal! The 39% is just fuel on the fire; which Obama passed. I refer to Obama as ombamacare now because that's all he gives a shit about.

It's a big hike on your income *above $400,000* (or $450k if married filing jointly). If you make less than $400K, you aren't in that tax bracket and don't pay anything additional.

barfo

 

[KingSpeed]

Both houses voted on this act. The Affordable Care Act It is the law. Obama is not a dictator. This isn't even what he wanted. He wanted free universal health care. He compromised with the Republicans

 

[MarAzul]

Both houses voted on this act. The Affordable Care Act It is the law. Obama is not a dictator. This isn't even what he wanted. He wanted free universal health care. He compromised with the Republicans

Compromised with which Republican? Not one, that is zero republicans voted for this bull shit.
It belongs to Obama and his minion 100%.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

3.8% is a big fucking hike liberal! The 39% is just fuel on the fire; which Obama passed. I refer to Obama as ombamacare now because that's all he gives a shit about.

So you want to: set up aquaponic systems for needy areas. Training them to grow their own food and save lives!

But you are bitching about 3.8% increase so everybody has an opportunity to have affordable healthcare?

 

[magnifier661]

So you want to: set up aquaponic systems for needy areas. Training them to grow their own food and save lives!

But you are bitching about 3.8% increase so everybody has an opportunity to have affordable healthcare?

Yep because I'm sick and tired of welfare peeps that drive nice cars that take advantage of the system. For those that can't afford insurance is fine, but I know damn well they get a small piece of the pie.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

So you want to: set up aquaponic systems for needy areas. Training them to grow their own food and save lives!

But you are bitching about 3.8% increase so everybody has an opportunity to have affordable healthcare?

If he is willing on his own to invest big bank to help people, why would you buy into the bullshit rhetoric that what he would do of his own volition, is not enough?

what are you doing?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

If he is willing on his own to invest big bank to help people, why would you buy into the bullshit rhetoric that what he would do of his own volition, is not enough?

what are you doing?

What are you talking about?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

What are you talking about?

you would complain about him being unhappy that his tax situation is worse under obummercare....I dont know, thought that was obvious

 

[barfo]

Yep because I'm sick and tired of welfare peeps that drive nice cars that take advantage of the system. For those that can't afford insurance is fine, but I know damn well they get a small piece of the pie.

How are 'welfare peeps' going to buy cars with Obamacare? That's an 'e' at the end, not an 's'.

barfo

 

[The_Lillard_King]

you would complain about him being unhappy that his tax situation is worse under obummercare....I dont know, thought that was obvious

I was wondering how someone who seems so committed to provide food and saving lives through an implied donation of a very large amount of money is complaining about 3.8% increase in his taxes going to the national health care crisis.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Just received notice our company's health care Insurance is no longer available. After we did all of our new renewals and agreed to our rates. Everything has been done for two months after we just receive notice our coverage is being cut and out rates are going up.

Thank you, Obama. Dviss, you self-proclaimed expert and Obama jockist, can you please explain this to me? Please.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I was wondering how someone who seems so committed to provide food and saving lives through an implied donation of a very large amount of money is complaining about 3.8% increase in his taxes going to the national health care crisis.

obvious to me that his tax situation is better under a donation rather than a tax..plus..from the heart is always better than from the government

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

obvious to me that his tax situation is better under a donation rather than a tax..plus..from the heart is always better than from the government

It's just one more thing that goes against what Obama said. You know, one of a million lies to get re-elected. Its one thing to be a lying whore; it's another to be one and deny it.

It upsets me to us subsidize idiots that don't care and don't put forth real effort.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

The "Supply-Side Jesus" Conservatives on this board never cease to amaze me with their arrogance and lack of compassion. "Fuck You, I got Mine" is the mantra. Well, the good news folks is that there's no Goldfinger Mini-plane that will save your ass when the economy tanks from your representative's snit fit. Millions of dollars won't mean shit when the dollar is worthless. You'll be scrounging for your meals just like the rest of us.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

The "Supply-Side Jesus" Conservatives on this board never cease to amaze me with their arrogance and lack of compassion. "Fuck You, I got Mine" is the mantra. Well, the good news folks is that there's no Goldfinger Mini-plane that will save your ass when the economy tanks from your representative's snit fit. Millions of dollars won't mean shit when the dollar is worthless. You'll be scrounging for your meals just like the rest of us.

the economy will tank, that you are correct about. It will be due to printing dollars like wall paper. I have seen money from failed nations pasted on walls. I see no "I got mine, fuck you " inference here. A guy says he wants to invest large jack to help..pfft go ahead and complain..

 

[maxiep]

What I'd like to see is Obamacare fully implemented. No waivers, no delays. Everyone pays. We get to see how we like it, whether the Democrats told the truth when they sold this bill.

 

[barfo]

What I'd like to see is Obamacare fully implemented. No waivers, no delays. Everyone pays. We get to see how we like it, whether the Democrats told the truth when they sold this bill.

I'm with ya!

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

The "Supply-Side Jesus" Conservatives on this board never cease to amaze me with their arrogance and lack of compassion. "Fuck You, I got Mine" is the mantra. Well, the good news folks is that there's no Goldfinger Mini-plane that will save your ass when the economy tanks from your representative's snit fit. Millions of dollars won't mean shit when the dollar is worthless. You'll be scrounging for your meals just like the rest of us.

Nope I got many preps. Aquaculture system, water making machine that takes water from the atmosphere, solar panel off grid system and investments overseas.

You seem to think the rich are some stupid fucks that have people wait on them? Nah man, we see the damage before it turns to shit. Enjoy

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

In Yeezus I trust.

 

[barfo]

Nope I got many preps. Aquaculture system, water making machine that takes water from the atmosphere, solar panel off grid system and investments overseas.

Yes, but do you have enough guns and enough loyal men to defend your compound? Because otherwise we'll just take what you've got, come the end time.

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Yes, but do you have enough guns and enough loyal men to defend your compound? Because otherwise we'll just take what you've got, come the end time.

barfo

I will

 

[MarAzul]

Yes, but do you have enough guns and enough loyal men to defend your compound? Because otherwise we'll just take what you've got, come the end time.

barfo

More interlopers will be good fertilizer for the crops.

 

[MARIS61]

Exactly! I do my fair share of helping my community. All this has done is make it harder to donate to my local community. So the local community suffers, while my contribution is for a community I know little to nothing about.

Actually, you're just not giving enough.

Charitable donations are not taxed, neither is most money you re-invest into your company. So you need to donate more or invest more to lower your tax bracket.

It's simple math, but maybe you should get a decent cpa.

 

[MARIS61]

What I'd like to see is Obamacare fully implemented. No waivers, no delays. Everyone pays. We get to see how we like it, whether the Democrats told the truth when they sold this bill.

Tell your representative. Every waiver and delay has been made to accommodate big business.