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How many IQ points does it take to equate that both the Republican and Democratic parties have evolved since you were a kid in Chicago? Both for the good and the bad.

I know there's plenty of Confederate flag flying hillbillies down South that are Obama supporters. They just don't want to admit it.

Have you ever lived in Chicago? It's the most racist town in which I've ever lived. When Martin Luther King marched down Pulaski Ave, he commented to Ralph Abernathy that if the KKK were smart, they'd bring some Chicagoans down to Mississippi to teach Southerners how to hate.
 
Have you ever lived in Chicago? It's the most racist town in which I've ever lived. When Martin Luther King marched down Pulaski Ave, he commented to Ralph Abernathy that if the KKK were smart, they'd bring some Chicagoans down to Mississippi to teach Southerners how to hate.

I lived in Chicago twice. In summer of 89' and the autumn of 93'.....Or, wait it might have been the spring of 95'. Hard to be certain.

But, I'm sure both of us weren't there when Martin Luther King was marching 50 years ago.
 
How many IQ points does it take to equate that both the Republican and Democratic parties have evolved since you were a kid in Chicago? Both for the good and the bad.

I know there's plenty of Confederate flag flying hillbillies down South that are Obama supporters. They just don't want to admit it.

Chicago is a NORTHERN city, not some town full of bigots in the heart of dixie. The police torture instances happend 20 years after I was a kid in Chicago. Yeah, it evolved.

Chicago isn't unique. Segregation through social and civic planning (build a freeway to separate people of color from the richest suburb in the nation):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Palo_Alto,_California

About half of East Palo Alto's residents were African Americans in 1990, largely due to redlining practices in Palo Alto [5]. Latinos now constitute about 65% of the total population, while the proportion of African Americans has decreased to about 15%. A small minority of Pacific Islander population also resides in East Palo Alto, mostly Tongans with some Samoans and Fijians[citation needed]. East Palo Alto has the largest concentration of Pacific Islanders of any U.S. city or town outside of Hawaii[citation needed].

In the past, East Palo Alto experienced profound crime and poverty, especially during the 1980s and early 1990s. In 1992, it had the highest homicide rate in the country with 24,322 people, and 42 murders, equaling a rate of 172.7 homicides per 100,000 residents.[6] Since then the city's crime problems have subsided, and the murder rate in particular has declined to a typical urban level. In 2006, East Palo Alto experienced a comparatively low 6 murders. There were 7 murders in 2007, and only 5 in 2008.

According to a 2008 report provided by Chief of Police Ron Davis, violence is on the decline. Davis reports an overall 42% reduction in homicides and a 20% reduction in
overall crime between 2006–2008, compared to the previous three years.

The prosperity that benefited the Silicon Valley during the dot-com boom of the late 1990s largely bypassed East Palo Alto. The Ravenswood City School District, which serves East Palo Alto and part of adjoining Menlo Park, has struggled with low academic performance.[citation needed] Eventually, however, the Peninsula's shortage of land and soaring property prices meant that even East Palo Alto became an option for urban regeneration. Until recently, gentrification has been rare in East Palo Alto. East Palo Alto was depicted in the 1995 film Dangerous Minds, which was based on the experiences of a Carlmont High School teacher and her experiences with bused-in students from East Palo Alto.
 
I lived in Chicago twice. In summer of 89' and the autumn of 93'.....Or, wait it might have been the spring of 95'. Hard to be certain.

But, I'm sure both of us weren't there when Martin Luther King was marching 50 years ago.

I was there when King marched 50 years ago.

I lived on the south side, predominantly black neighborhoods (where Obama's house is now, in fact) in 1968 when King was shot. Scary time to be a white person there. It was also the year of the riots at the DNC and when RFK was shot.

BTW, if the people in the parties have somehow switched since the late 1960s, then that would make Bobby and John Kennedy today's republicans. Use that IQ.
 
I lived in Chicago twice. In summer of 89' and the autumn of 93'.....Or, wait it might have been the spring of 95'. Hard to be certain.

But, I'm sure both of us weren't there when Martin Luther King was marching 50 years ago.

In what neighborhood in Chicago? Let's see what you know.

As for whether or not I was alive, there are these items called books. They have information in them, not kryptonite, so you needn't be so afraid of them. You may actually learn something.
 
I was there when King marched 50 years ago.

I lived on the south side, predominantly black neighborhoods (where Obama's house is now, in fact) in 1968 when King was shot. Scary time to be a white person there. It was also the year of the riots at the DNC and when RFK was shot.

BTW, if the people in the parties have somehow switched since the late 1960s, then that would make Bobby and John Kennedy today's republicans. Use that IQ.

Denny, where was your house? I lived at 55th and Dorchester in Hyde Park. President Obama lives around 50th and Greenwood, IIRC.
 
In what neighborhood in Chicago? Let's see what you know.

As for whether or not I was alive, there are these items called books. They have information in them, not kryptonite, so you needn't be so afraid of them. You may actually learn something.

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Denny, where was your house? I lived at 55th and Dorchester in Hyde Park. President Obama lives around 50th and Greenwood, IIRC.

5407 S. Hyde Park Blvd.
 
Chicago is a NORTHERN city, not some town full of bigots in the heart of dixie. The police torture instances happend 20 years after I was a kid in Chicago. Yeah, it evolved.

No shit Sherlock.

The origin of the argument in this thread you were trying to make is that there is not a large number of racists in the Republican party.
 
I was there when King marched 50 years ago.

I lived on the south side, predominantly black neighborhoods (where Obama's house is now, in fact) in 1968 when King was shot. Scary time to be a white person there. It was also the year of the riots at the DNC and when RFK was shot.

BTW, if the people in the parties have somehow switched since the late 1960s, then that would make Bobby and John Kennedy today's republicans. Use that IQ.

How old are you? What personal memories can you give of that time.

You're making such a semantical argument here. You've spinned this into a debate of whether, or not Chicago was a racist city 45 years ago, which I've never denied.

You're trying to deflect from the fact that there is plenty of racists in the Republican party. Shit, you were in denial about the Re-Nig stickers.
 
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This thread never intended to be a circle jerk for reminiscing about time spent in Chicago. Whatever floats your boat though.
 
You have no idea what point I'm trying to make, just like how you missed my Kaminsky Field reference. Answer the question. It's so simple, even you can respond.

You missed the point that I was full of shit about living in Chicago. I didn't know I needed to paint out the sarcasm.

If you sit down in a room full of 50 Oregonians and poll them about how many have lived in Chicago at some point, how many are going to say they have?
 
This thread never intended to be a circle jerk for reminiscing about time spent in Chicago. Whatever floats your boat though.

As opposed to a thread talking about Mitch at UPS? mkay.
 
You missed the point that I was full of shit about living in Chicago. I didn't know I needed to paint out the sarcasm.

If you sit down in a room full of 50 Oregonians and poll them about how many have lived in Chicago at some point, how many are going to say they have?

See, I tend to believe what people say about themselves on this forum. What's the point of lying? As for living in Chicago, it's the nation's third largest metro area. I bet lots of Oregonians have spent time in Chicago.
 
See, I tend to believe what people say about themselves on this forum. What's the point of lying? As for living in Chicago, it's the nation's third largest metro area. I bet lots of Oregonians have spent time in Chicago.

Visited? A couple times. Lived, okay.

The way you change little details through the course of a thread gives me a headache.

As for believing strangers on the internet? Wow, really? Such an outlet for liars.
 
How old are you?

Ike was president the day I was born.

And I never made any case there are no racists in the Republican Party. However, the Republican party was founded as a civil rights party, republicans were slaughtered in the south while working with blacks so they could exercise their rights. The Democratic Party founded the KKK, and through 2010 had a former KKK grand dragon serving in the senate (he filibustered the civil rights act).

Yet when the KKK/Nazi asshole David Duke ran for president in the republican party, he got 47,000 votes, or 0.04% (ZERO POINT ZERO FOUR PERCENT) of the overall popular vote - there's your racists in the republican party. When George Wallace ran for president, he took 20% of democrats with him and won 5 states and 46 electoral votes along with 9.9M popular votes as a 3rd party candidate.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights legislation of the 1960s. Reagan appointed the first woman to the Supreme Court. Colin Powell was appointed the first black man to be Secy. of State. Condie Rice was appointed the first black woman. Gerald Ford appointed Bill Coleman as Secy. of Transportation way back in the mid '70s. W's Secy. of education was Rod Paige (and the cabinet diverse if you consider asian and hispanic members as well). Eric Holder, the current Atty. General served in that post for W in 2001 and was appointed superior court judge by Reagan.

Then there's Clarence Thomas. Democrats are pissed he has "THE" black seat on the Supreme Court. I find it racist to assume there can only be one black member of the court - I'd be satisfied if all 9 were black since it's not skin color that is a qualification for the job, but it is the quality of their legal reasoning.

So from 1980 to 2008, 28 years, republicans were president 20 of them. When it was all said and done, a lot of republicans voted for a black man, Obama, for president. Nothing like republican racism to keep that from happening.

So you post a picture of an offensive bumper sticker. There's ZERO correlation between it and republicans at all. The guys who made it and sold it are bigoted assholes, maybe we agree on that. Yet I read up on the story of this bumper sticker and it was for sale for THREE years and didn't sell at all. All of a sudden it sold like crazy. Forgive me if I don't see it as anything less than a cheap political dirty trick, and have no reason to suspect that anyone but the Obama campaign itself bought a bunch of them to drive up sales and to use that as PR.

Kinda like the Jim Wright book deal. http://www.nytimes.com/1988/06/12/us/behind-jim-wright-s-book-his-friends.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
 
Visited? A couple times. Lived, okay.

The way you change little details through the course of a thread gives me a headache.

As for believing strangers on the internet? Wow, really? Such an outlet for liars.

Why would someone go through the trouble of lying about onesself? Are you telling me you're not a UPS employee?
 
There's idiots on both sides, I've never argued that.

But, to say the bible thumping, redneck, confederate flag flying hillbillies from South Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia and all of the dixieland isn't a large part of the Republican constituency is just silly. I have cousins in Missouri who say they have friends that are told flat out in church who to vote for.

The fact there's a black President in the White House must be a tough pill for them to swallow.
 
Why would someone go through the trouble of lying about onesself? Are you telling me you're not a UPS employee?

Why do people lie in the first place? I have no idea. But, how hard is it to lie through a keyboard and computer screen.

I hope you aren't that naive.
 
Why do people lie in the first place? I have no idea. But, how hard is it to lie through a keyboard and computer screen.

I hope you aren't that naive.

I'm not naive, I just don't see the point.
 
There's idiots on both sides, I've never argued that.

But, to say the bible thumping, redneck, confederate flag flying hillbillies from South Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia and all of the dixieland isn't a large part of the Republican constituency is just silly. I have cousins in Missouri who say they have friends that are told flat out in church who to vote for.

The fact there's a black President in the White House must be a tough pill for them to swallow.

Not quite so sure about that. Obama got more of the vote in 2008 there than Kerry did in 2004 and by quite a bit more.
 
Not quite so sure about that. Obama got more of the vote in 2008 there than Kerry did in 2004 and by quite a bit more.

That had more to do with first time voters coming out in masses and drowning out the votes of the racists down in dixie country.

Ted Nugent's mindset is shared with a healthy amount of those disillusioned folks that I'm speaking of.
 
You really need to stop reading the HuffingtonPost. It is not a very good source of facts or news.
 
And I find this quote by Nugent to be spot on:

"Wasserman Schultz is such a brain-dead, soulless idiot"
 
See, I tend to believe what people say about themselves on this forum. What's the point of lying? As for living in Chicago, it's the nation's third largest metro area. I bet lots of Oregonians have spent time in Chicago.

haven't read the thread, will go back now. Foolishly started on page 2, but will throw out I was born in Chicago, and have met quite a few of us in Portland. Irrelevant, but whatever.
 
haven't read the thread, will go back now. Foolishly started on page 2, but will throw out I was born in Chicago, and have met quite a few of us in Portland. Irrelevant, but whatever.

Yeah, go back. Romney was born in Mexico. I'm sure he's rubbed elbows with quite a few that have been to Cancun.
 

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