G Damian Lillard, F LaMarcus Aldridge selected as All-Star reserves!

[riverman]

Shoutout to the good guys! Congrats to #12 and #0 both! I'm stoked we got two guys in! (LaMarcus still should have started)

 

[roywonder07]

LMA going for his career high "You knows"

 

[RoyToy]

Barkley is hammering on Lance Stephenson not making the team, but it's funny, he and Batum have VERY similar stats and nobody is talking about Nic.

Barkley doesn't base it just on stats

Lance is certainly more talented than both. I like Leonard because of his defense. He has a good reputation going for him after the playoffs last year (especially the finals).

 

[SlyPokerDog]

LaMarcus Aldridge's All-Star Game advice to Damian Lillard: "if you pass it you won't get it back."

 

[PapaG]

Barkley doesn't base it just on stats

Lance is certainly more talented than both. I like Leonard because of his defense. He has a good reputation going for him after the playoffs last year (especially the finals).

Stephenson has Roy Hibbert behind him.

Here is a link comparing Stephenson/Leonard/Batum

http://www.basketball-reference.com...y2=2014&p3=leonaka01&y3=2014#per_minute::none

Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% OR DR TRB AST ST BK T PF PTS
1 Nicolas Batum 2013-14 25 46 46 35.8 4.4 9.7 .451 1.7 5.0 .346 2.7 4.8 .559 2.1 2.6 .807 1.4 5.2 6.6 5.6 1.0 0.6 2.4 1.9 12.6
2 Kawhi Leonard 2013-14 22 41 40 28.6 4.9 9.4 .517 0.8 2.5 .327 4.0 6.9 .585 1.1 1.5 .738 1.3 4.8 6.1 1.8 1.7 0.5 1.2 2.0 11.6
3 Lance Stephenson 2013-14 23 43 43 35.6 5.7 11.5 .499 1.0 2.9 .344 4.7 8.6 .552 1.8 2.6 .673 1.4 5.7 7.1 5.3 0.7 0.1 2.6 2.5 14.2

 

[Natebishop3]

I was almost going to post Nic's stats as compared to Stephenson's. Kawhi Leonard's are very similar to Batum's too.

Repped

Funny how that works though, right? He's going on and on about how Lance and Kawhi should have made the team. He's saying that he rewards winning, but Nic isn't anywhere to be found. Not necessarily saying Nic SHOULD make it, but if you're going to start throwing names out like Stephenson and Leonard, I think Nic should be in the same discussion.

 

[Hobbesarable]

LaMarcus Aldridge's All-Star Game advice to Damian Lillard: "if you pass it you won't get it back."

Kobe isn't on the all-star team this year, so there's a chance he may get it back.

 

[KingSpeed]

Barkley says Portland isn't a surprise team but none of the TNT guys, including him, picked us to make the playoffs at the beginning of the season.

 

[Natebishop3]

Barkley doesn't base it just on stats

Lance is certainly more talented than both. I like Leonard because of his defense. He has a good reputation going for him after the playoffs last year (especially the finals).

Please, I've watched Lance and he's not more talented than Nic. I think Batum is a much better passer. They excel at different areas of the game. They're both good players, but I'm not convinced that Stephenson is "certainly more talented." Not by a mile.

 

[RoyToy]

Stephenson has Roy Hibbert behind him.

Here is a link comparing Stephenson/Leonard/Batum

http://www.basketball-reference.com...y2=2014&p3=leonaka01&y3=2014#per_minute::none

Lance is a much more talented offensive player than Batum

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Kobe isn't on the all-star team this year, so there's a chance he may get it back.

It's solid advice in general. If you get the ball at half court, launch it immediately!

 

[Natebishop3]

Lance is a much more talented offensive player than Batum

In what regard? Scoring? So that extra couple PPG makes him "much more talented?"

Nic has a higher TS% and a higher ORTG. Their PER is identical.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

EDIT: I'll let Nate handle this one.

 

[Natebishop3]

That's why Batum's TS% and ORtg are higher?

On a higher USG% to boot.

 

[Hobbesarable]

It's solid advice in general. If you get the ball at half court, launch it immediately!

I agree. It was said in jest towards Kobe.

 

[Natebishop3]

So who do they pick to replace Kobe? I'm kinda hoping for Davis.

So many guards. I think that says a lot about how many great guards are in the west right now.

 

[KingSpeed]

Lillard just in a commercial where Aldridge talks to him about "now that we're All Stars.". Guess it was a lock all along.

 

[RoyToy]

In what regard? Scoring? So that extra couple PPG makes him "much more talented?"

Nic has a higher TS% and a higher ORTG. Their PER is identical.

Stephenson can create his own shots and can get to the rim.

Batum, despite this being his like 6th year in the league, still has to rely mostly on his jumper for his offense. That's just a fact.

I'll stand by Stephenson being more talented 10 times out of 10.

 

[PapaG]

Lance is a much more talented offensive player than Batum

Huh?

The only difference is that Stephenson takes more shots, and his 2pt percentage is a bit better. His FTs are pretty bad, though, and assists are a wash.

 

[KingSpeed]

So who do they pick to replace Kobe? I'm kinda hoping for Davis.

So many guards. I think that says a lot about how many great guards are in the west right now.

It should be Davis. Davis should've made it over Dirk.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

On a higher USG% to boot.

Lower you mean. Yeah, PapaG's favorite ratio (PER vs USG) really comes into play. a 16 PER/16 USG guy is more balanced in the offense than a 16 PER / 19 USG guy... you should be getting more out of your high usage players than that.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Lillard just in a commercial where Aldridge talks to him about "now that we're All Stars.". Guess it was a lock all along.

What did you think of that McLoughlin Car dealer commercial with Aldridge and Lopez?

 

[PapaG]

Stephenson can create his own shots and can get to the rim.

Batum, despite this being his like 6th year in the league, still has to rely mostly on his jumper for his offense. That's just a fact.

I'll stand by Stephenson being more talented 10 times out of 10.

Maybe Stephenson is more talented. It's your opinion. What I found silly is them spending 5 minutes talking about Lance Stephenson, as if it's some big outrage that he missed the team.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Maybe Stephenson is more talented. It's your opinion. What I found silly is them spending 5 minutes talking about Lance Stephenson, as if it's some big outrage that he missed the team.

But! In the East, a 16 PER guy is like 8th best in the conference!

 

[KingSpeed]

What did you think of that McLoughlin Car dealer commercial with Aldridge and Lopez?

When was that?

 

[PapaG]

Lower you mean. Yeah, PapaG's favorite ratio (PER vs USG) really comes into play. a 16 PER/16 USG guy is more balanced in the offense than a 16 PER / 19 USG guy... you should be getting more out of your high usage players than that.

I really do like that ratio, and think it should be used more often. Stephenson's is very good as well. 16/19 is solid for an off-the-ball player. Batum's 1:1 is what you need out of secondary scorers on elite teams, though.

 

[Natebishop3]

Stephenson can create his own shots and can get to the rim.

Batum, despite this being his like 6th year in the league, still has to rely mostly on his jumper for his offense. That's just a fact.

I'll stand by Stephenson being more talented 10 times out of 10.

You said much better offensively, and clearly better offensively, which is different than just "better."

Nic isn't a scorer. It's not that he can't score, it's that he would rather do other things. He doesn't have a scorers mentality. That doesn't mean that he isn't as talented as Stephenson. Regardless, my original point is that you can't talk about one and not the others. They all have very similar numbers and they all play for one of the top three or four teams in the league, so "winning" isn't an excuse.

 

[RoyToy]

Huh?

The only difference is that Stephenson takes more shots, and his 2pt percentage is a bit better. His FTs are pretty bad, though, and assists are a wash.

There's no denying Lance has more ability than Batum on the offensive side of the floor. Idk how this is even an argument.

 

[KingSpeed]

Maybe Stephenson is more talented. It's your opinion. What I found silly is them spending 5 minutes talking about Lance Stephenson, as if it's some big outrage that he missed the team.

It's because East is weak. Did Joe really deserve it over Lance. It was close. No room for Nic in West this season. Matthews is just as deserving as Nic so it's still a hard call.

 

[Natebishop3]

Lower you mean. Yeah, PapaG's favorite ratio (PER vs USG) really comes into play. a 16 PER/16 USG guy is more balanced in the offense than a 16 PER / 19 USG guy... you should be getting more out of your high usage players than that.

Yeah, sorry, I meant that Stephenson was on a higher USG%. Not Batum.