Game Thread GAME# 1: JAZZ @ BLAZERS - OCTOBER 25, 2016 - TUESDAY, 7:00 (PDT), KGW

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

That's HCP?

He's a bit svelte to be HCP.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Joe Johnson can still go off and shot the three ball.

 

[Chris Craig]

Rudy Gobert going to drop 25-15-5 on the Blazers. Jazz win by 6.

Somebody is a mormom

 

[Boob-No-More]

You do realize they are without their best player...... probably not the best time to judge them overall. I believe if we were without Dame for a significant amount of time, we would probably be lesser of a team.

NOT.THE.SAME.THING.

Their "best" player has never averaged 20ppg or made an all star or all NBA team. Which is why they lost so many close games last year.

Of course, they believe 35-year old Iso Joe Johnson is the answer. I guess we'll see tonight. At one time, Johnson was a Brandon Roy level closer. The problem is, the last time that was true, so was Brandon Roy.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

NOT.THE.SAME.THING.

Their "best" player has never averaged 20ppg or made an all star or all NBA team. Which is why they lost so many close games last year.

Of course, they believe 35-year old Iso Joe Johnson is the answer. I guess we'll see tonight. At one time, Johnson was a Brandon Roy level closer. The problem is, the last time that was true, so was Brandon Roy.

BNM

OK argument, except the making and all star team part.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Joe Johnson can still go off and shot the three ball.

Too bad he can't guard a chair.

Their best offensive players are also their worst defensive players and vise versa. Too bad this isn't football where they can have separate offensive and defensive squads.

Favors is really their only player who is significantly above average on both sides of the ball. Favors isn't a superstar, or even an all star. He's not the type of player that will light you up for 35 points, but he's damn solid and gets his points very efficiently. He's the biggest mismatch in UTA's favor (no pun intended). The key to controlling Favors is to keep him off the offensive glass. Aminu doesn't have the size, or strength to do that. So, look for a lot of Ed Davis and maybe even a little Noah Vonleh on Favors tonight. We can't let Favors pull down 7 ORBs tonight. That's 7 extra possessions for UTA, and given their ridiculously slow pace, that could easily be the difference in the ball game.

BNM

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Favors is not guaranteed to play tonight.

 

[Boob-No-More]

OK argument, except the making and all star team part.

When did Gordon Hayward, the guy you (correctly) called their best player ever make an NB all star team?

Joe Johnson may have made the all star team in the past, in the Leastern Conference, and even that's been a while, but he's not their best player. As much as I wish he was (because it would mean the rest of their team sucks), he simply is not. Not even close. Hayward is better, Favors is better, Gobert is better, if you con't both sides of the ball, Hill is better, Hood is better, etc.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

Favors is not guaranteed to play tonight.

You guys do realize the game is TOMORROW night right? Your the 2nd person here to do this. Just wanting to make sure. #RookieMistake

 

[Boob-No-More]

Favors is not guaranteed to play tonight.

If both Favors and Hayward are out, we need to pounce on this team and take them out. I know there is no such thing as a must win game in October, but this is one of the teams we will be fighting against for playoff seeding and HCA. When it comes to tie breakers, wins in October count just as much as wins in April.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

If both Favors and Hayward are out, we need to pounce on this team and take them out. I know there is no such thing as a must win game in October, but this is one of the teams we will be fighting against for playoff seeding and HCA. When it comes to tie breakers, wins in October count just as much as wins in April.

BNM

Must Win Game?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

You guys do realize the game is TOMORROW night right? Your the 2nd person here to do this. Just wanting to make sure. #RookieMistake

Not guaranteed to play tonight, tomorrow night or the next night for that matter.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Must Win Game?

Like I said, "there is no such thing as a must win game in October", but take 'em when you can get 'em. At the end of the season they all count the same.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

Like I said, "there is no such thing as a must win game in October", but take 'em when you can get 'em. At the end of the season they all count the same.

BNM

Great point.....it always blows me away on here, mid December when people are just griping and bitching about how horrible Dame shot and Meyers rebounded, but we WON! And jerking off over some 25 point win over the Spurs. Each W counts the same mid April if you as me.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Favors is not guaranteed to play tonight.

They don't need Favors. A little bird told me Gobert is going to get 25-15-5 and the Jizz win by only 6. Of course, it may have meant that Rudy's going for 25 missed shots, 15 turnovers, and 5 fouls, and the Jizz lose by 26 - not sure. The little birdy didn't seem to know where he was.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Great point.....it always blows me away on here, mid December when people are just griping and bitching about how horrible Dame shot and Meyers rebounded, but we WON! And jerking off over some 25 point win over the Spurs. Each W counts the same mid April if you as me.

There are no style points in basketball (well, except during the slam dunk contest). A win is a win, is a win, is a win. They all count the same in your record and for use in determining tie breakers. Which is why it always hurts to let one slip away, to lose a game you should have won. Those losses, even in November and December can come back to haunt you in April when you lose a tie breaker and fall from 4th seed and HCA to 5th or 6th seed and opening the playoffs on the road.

BNM

 

[theprunetang]

Gordon Hayward raps > Damian Lillard raps

Gordon Hayward is much better at breaking his fingers. I'll give him that.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

They all count the same in your record and for use in determining tie breakers.

That's technically incorrect. Head-to-head victories over teams with whom we might end up tied very well could count for more in tie-breakers; conference wins count more in tie-breakers than non-conference wins, as could (potentially) wins over likely playoff teams, and even blowouts (if it ever got down to the 6th tie-breaker, which is net points scored).

However, the basic premise is valid--as long as we win, the other stuff is peripheral.

 

[Boob-No-More]

That's technically incorrect. Head-to-head victories over teams with whom we might end up tied very well could count for more in tie-breakers; conference wins count more in tie-breakers than non-conference wins, as could (potentially) wins over likely playoff teams, and even blowouts (if it ever got down to the 6th tie-breaker, which is net points scored).

However, the basic premise is valid--as long as we win, the other stuff is peripheral.

I should have been more specific.

A win tomorrow on October 25, 2016 over the Utah Jazz counts exactly the same as a win over the Utah Jazz on April 4, 2017 or April 8, 2017 in determining the tie breaker between these two teams, should it be needed.

We play UTA twice in our final 5 games. Best to jump on them now to get a leg up on the season series. This game counts just as much as those two in determining our final record and our potential tie breaker with the Jazz.

BNM

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Too bad he can't guard a chair.

Their best offensive players are also their worst defensive players and vise versa. Too bad this isn't football where they can have separate offensive and defensive squads.

Favors is really their only player who is significantly above average on both sides of the ball. Favors isn't a superstar, or even an all star. He's not the type of player that will light you up for 35 points, but he's damn solid and gets his points very efficiently. He's the biggest mismatch in UTA's favor (no pun intended). The key to controlling Favors is to keep him off the offensive glass. Aminu doesn't have the size, or strength to do that. So, look for a lot of Ed Davis and maybe even a little Noah Vonleh on Favors tonight. We can't let Favors pull down 7 ORBs tonight. That's 7 extra possessions for UTA, and given their ridiculously slow pace, that could easily be the difference in the ball game.

BNM

Just put him on Evan Turner or Moe Harkless, they have the offensive games of chairs.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

Somebody is a moron

FTFY

 

[Boob-No-More]

Just put him on Evan Turner or Moe Harkless, they have the offensive games of chairs.

Sounds good to me. Turn a weakness into a strength for us.

Last season in 5 head-to-head match-ups against Iso Joe (4 for BRK and 1 for MIA), Turner, who isn't known for his scoring, averaged 13 ppg, 8.25 rpg, 4 apg on .528 FG%.

He also recorded a triple double with 19 points (on 9/13 shooting = .692 FG%), 10 rebounds and 12 assists in a head-to-head match-up with Johnson on March 23, 2015. In that game, in 37:40, Johnson had 6 points, (on 3/11 shooting = .273 FG%), 3 rebounds and 1 assist.

So yes, PLEASE put Joe Johnson on Evan Turner. We'd really like to see the new guy go off in his first game as a Blazer.

Joe Johnson is kind of like Evan Turner's bitch.

BNM

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Sounds good to me. Turn a weakness into a strength for us.

Last season in 5 head-to-head match-ups against Iso Joe (4 for BRK and 1 for MIA), Turner, who isn't known for his scoring, averaged 13 ppg, 8.25 rpg, 4 apg on .528 FG%.

He also recorded a triple double with 19 points (on 9/13 shooting = .692 FG%), 10 rebounds and 12 assists in a head-to-head match-up with Johnson on March 23, 2015. In that game, in 37:40, Johnson had 6 points, (on 3/11 shooting = .273 FG%), 3 rebounds and 1 assist.

So yes, PLEASE put Joe Johnson on Evan Turner. We'd really like to see the new guy go off in his first game as a Blazer.

Joe Johnson is kind of like Evan Turner's bitch.

BNM

Probably had nothing to do with the fact Joe Johnson played on the Brooklyn Nets and Evan Turner played for the Celtics.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Utah could put chairs on the perimeter for defense and Portland still couldn''t score on Favors or Gobert.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Must Win Game?

 

[H.C.]

Utah could put chairs on the perimeter for defense and Portland still couldn''t score on Favors or Gobert.

 

[Boise Blazer]

Oh shit! Checkmate Saint Cy!

 

[Strenuus]

Utah could put chairs on the perimeter for defense and Portland still couldn''t score on Favors or Gobert.

There's video that says you're wrong.

I honestly can't believe there's a Jazz troll. LOL.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Utah could put chairs on the perimeter for defense and Portland still couldn''t score on Favors or Gobert.

Another good plan. Unlike 100-year old Iso Joe, a char might actually get a stop by getting in someone's way.

I think it's cute that by adding old slow Joe and old fat Boris, Jazz fans suddenly think they have a bench. I think it's even cuter that you think ether of those guys actually give a fuck about playing defense.

But, what's cutest of all is you've bought into the hype that because your team plays at a glacial pace, you actually have an elite defense. Yes, yes, I've read the articles that say UTA had the 3rd best defensive efficiency rating in the league after that all star break last year. BFD. That's a sample size of 30 games and you actually had a losing record (14-16) over those 30 games.

Don't let Quin McSnyder's boring SlowTime offense fool you into thinking you're a great defensive team. Yes, you have great rim protectors, but there is more to playing defense than blocking shots (JaVale McGee says, "hi").

Fact, you're OPP FG% last year was only 10th best in the league last season. Above average, but hardly elite.

Fact, you OPP 3FG% was 13th in the league, barely above average.

Fact, we were 3-1 against you last season and averaged 104.5 ppg against your "elite" defense.

Fact, the only game we lost was a game where Lillard DNP.

Fact, Damian Lillard averaged 28.7 PPG against you last season.

Fact, C.J. McCollum averaged 26.3 PPG against you last season.

Looking forward to tomorrow night.

BNM

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Y'all are really mad every relevant basketball mind picked us over Portland? Must hurt over succeeding and knowing you will never reach that peak of mediocrity again. Y'all basically the Thrift Store version of Golden State, but the original owner's cat pissed all over y'all.