Game Thread GAME# 1: JAZZ @ BLAZERS - OCTOBER 25, 2016 - TUESDAY, 7:00 (PDT), KGW

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Which place in the West will the Blazers rank at the end of the season?

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Did the game seem to change, for the worse, when Meyers was inserted?

And the Blazers played better when he was gone?
 
julius said:
Did the game seem to change, for the worse, when Meyers was inserted?

And the Blazers played better when he was gone?
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He wasn't especially bad. He was typical Meyers, just sort of there, not contributing much unless he's making 3s, and I think he got like one shot off. Other guys just bring more to the table
 
julius said:
Did the game seem to change, for the worse, when Meyers was inserted?

And the Blazers played better when he was gone?
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It can be said that Meyers is a game changer.
He may have set an NBA record for quickest bone head move after entering a game. There was an illegal D call about 3 seconds after he entered the game, not sure if he was the culprit.
 
julius said:
Did the game seem to change, for the worse, when Meyers was inserted?

And the Blazers played better when he was gone?
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One of the few things I can criticize Lillard/CJ for last night is missing Nards wide open on the pick and pop at least 5 times.
Granted it's Nards so wide open means he's going to pump fake and not shoot...
But still I'm 100% positive Stotts will mention it in the film session.
Gobert had no idea what to do against the pick and roll with Nards in the game. So it is what it is.
 
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Yep. Meyers was open a lot and they didn't pass to him. He was covered on the one shot he did take.
 
honkicracker said:
One of the few things I can criticize Lillard/CJ for last night is missing Nards wide open on the pick and pop at least 5 times.
Granted it's Nards so wide open means he's going to pump fake and not shoot...
But still I'm 100% positive Stotts will mention it in the film session.
Gobert had no idea what to do against the pick and roll with Nards in the game. So it is what it is.
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When you knew you could get to the rim and put it over Gobert when you wanted... as opposed to giving it up to a very timid player who once again looked lost (I'm only speaking this game... there are definitely some games where he doesn't) you do it... I don't blame them... and the efficient numbers say it was the right decision anyway.
 
Strenuus said:
When you knew you could get to the rim and put it over Gobert when you wanted... as opposed to giving it up to a very timid player who once again looked lost (I'm only speaking this game... there are definitely some games where he doesn't) you do it... I don't blame them... and the efficient numbers say it was the right decision anyway.
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Especially when you know he is not only timid, but so slow to get the shot off. In most cases when he is wide open by the time he gets the shot off the defender has had time to talk to the ref, order and get a drink from one of the wait staff, tie his shoe, go to the bathroom and vote before he has to worry about Meyers shooting.
 
And it's funny how more people talk about Damian's efficiency, but when it came to LaMarcus, everyone just wanted to kiss his ass and look at his average, and Damian at his worst efficiency was better than LA.
 
julius said:
Especially when you know he is not only timid, but so slow to get the shot off. In most cases when he is wide open by the time he gets the shot off the defender has had time to talk to the ref, order and get a drink from one of the wait staff, tie his shoe, go to the bathroom and vote before he has to worry about Meyers shooting.
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Ok, that's an exaggeration. The wait staff there is very slow. You can't rush a $9 aluminum can of Bud Light.
 
A recurring theme carrying over from previous years. Other team has very hot player (Johnson) and Stotts doesn't seem to have an answer.
 
Has it been asked whether we set a record for most consecutive made 3's (7) by one team to start a season?

How often have two teams shot 100% from the FT line in an opener?

How do we never lose home openers in the new millenium, and what does another such win tell us about the rest of the season?

Statistically, Golden State is exactly as bad as New York at this point in the season. Thanks Durant!
 
honkicracker said:
One of the few things I can criticize Lillard/CJ for last night is missing Nards wide open on the pick and pop at least 5 times.
Granted it's Nards so wide open means he's going to pump fake and not shoot...
But still I'm 100% positive Stotts will mention it in the film session.
Gobert had no idea what to do against the pick and roll with Nards in the game. So it is what it is.
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Meyers played 9 minutes. I am not totally sure they were even going to play him until Mason got into foul trouble.
So when he entered the game it was during an important stretch. He came in cold off the bench while the others were not. I prefer they let the guy get warmed up before they start force feeding him the ball. They had other options.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
A recurring theme carrying over from previous years. Other team has very hot player (Johnson) and Stotts doesn't seem to have an answer.
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Except that he did call a bunch of switches at the end of the game that shut Joe down at the most critical point of the game. And, when a guy like Johnson is "on", it can be pretty tough to shut him down for an entire game, just like it was impossible for the Jazz to shut Dame down.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Really great. We took a very good team to the final two minutes missing 3 of our top scorers from last season, two of them who are far and away our best players. I hate moral victories, but I was happy with the way we played. Just couldn't overcome a ridiculous shooting night from the Blazers.
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Every change factors in something new. It's easy to think you win this going away if you add Favors and Hayward into the equation. However then how many looks do Johnson and Hood get? The Jazz certainly don't run the ball through JJ as much as they did in the second half where he had 27 points. Don't get me wrong you guys wouldn't have been worse off with your injured players healthy, but there are too many factors in sports to claim you would have won this in any fashion with your usual roster.

Fun fact - Many thought that adding an MVP in Durant to the Warriors would make them unbeatable. Well the Spurs put that to an end real quick when they beat them on the road by almost 30. Simply put you cannot assume that having more talent on the floor = greater success. Doesn't work that way in a league where players like Sundiata Gaines hits game winners on a 10-day.
 
Strenuus said:
When you knew you could get to the rim and put it over Gobert when you wanted... as opposed to giving it up to a very timid player who once again looked lost (I'm only speaking this game... there are definitely some games where he doesn't) you do it... I don't blame them... and the efficient numbers say it was the right decision anyway.
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Pinwheel1 said:
Meyers played 9 minutes. I am not totally sure they were even going to play him until Mason got into foul trouble.
So when he entered the game it was during an important stretch. He came in cold off the bench while the others were not. I prefer they let the guy get warmed up before they start force feeding him the ball. They had other options.
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Not saying it was wrong not to pass him the ball. Just saying he was open and he didn't get it.
As I said it's about the only thing I could criticize Lillard & CJ for. Missing an open teammate several times.
@julius asked how Nards did and I mentioned he could have done better if he got the ball and didn't attempt to pump fake Casper.
Especially considering Nards is about as good as Harden or Curry on defense. Will never be useful on that end of the court outside of the off-chance he does well against Cousins again.......
Personally, I'd rather Lillard/CJ take the easy layup with Gobert looking lost the whole game.
Still though, I'd bet my paycheck Stotts mentions how open Nards was in the film room. Or actually... I bet Lillard/CJ mention it.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
A recurring theme carrying over from previous years. Other team has very hot player (Johnson) and Stotts doesn't seem to have an answer.
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He actually made an adjustment or the players did on the fly. Which forced ISO joe's first miss after he got so hot.
But being that I saw this same adjustment in the pre-season once or twice. Can say they've at least spoke about it.
Certainly did not happen fast enough ~
 
honkicracker said:
Illogical criticism right here.

It's not like Lillard took 40 shots to get his 39 points.... It's not like he came down and chucked it up every time like Melo or Kobe. He didn't ice his teammates out.
I remember two shots from Lillard that were outside of the offense and could be considered bad shots, however they went in.
Even if he misses those two shots he still shoots over 50% from the field.~
Lillard took 20 shots, 6 of which were 3's. He had 9 rebounds, 9 free throws, 6 assists and 4 turnovers.(three of which were in the first quarter if I remember right)
I'd say Lillard played within the concept of the team and kept his teammates involved.
I understand what you're saying, you don't think the MVP award should compromise winning.
However if Lillard takes the same shots/amount of shots as he did last year, but shoots a better % he's going to be on the short list for the MVP.
He's holding himself to a higher standard this year. If that's not leading, then I don't know what is.

Curry however took the same shots that won him the MVP award last year, but lost him a 3-1 lead in the Finals.
A 30ft three pointer is still worth the same amount a 24.9' is. They lost by 29 at home.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling Lillard selfish in any way. I also wouldn't want him to fade into being a role-player. Just that he should make it a priority to play within the offense, move the ball, be willing to play off the ball, etc.
I love Lillard and appreciate his game very much, he's a leader and always a team player. I Just want him to make playing within the offense a priority. I don't think it hurts his MVP chances at all, I think he could be just as good and just as effective and that he's a worthy candidate
 
e_blazer said:
Except that he did call a bunch of switches at the end of the game that shut Joe down at the most critical point of the game. And, when a guy like Johnson is "on", it can be pretty tough to shut him down for an entire game, just like it was impossible for the Jazz to shut Dame down.
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To emphasize your point.... Utah scored exactly ZERO points in the last 4:24 of the game. This wasn't an accident.
 
Impressed with Dame taking it right into the chest of Gobert over and over. Not sure how many dimes we had out there, but it seemed like they were really moving the ball around trying to find the open man. Vonleh continuing to play well on the offensive end, but his defense last night really impressed The HCP!
 
HCP said:
Impressed with Dame taking it right into the chest of Gobert over and over. Not sure how many dimes we had out there, but it seemed like they were really moving the ball around trying to find the open man. Vonleh continuing to play well on the offensive end, but his defense last night really impressed The HCP!
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I've noticed Calabro doesn't give shout outs to the guys in the broadcast truck.
 
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