Game Thread GAME# 12: CLIPPERS @ BLAZERS - NOVEMBER 8, 2018 - THURSDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

[kjironman1]

This is amazing. I would love to watch the game like this.

I could watch this on a second viewing but i wouldn't like it at all during the game. Way too busy.

 

[Scalma]

I referenced the Afflalo trade yesterday as well. We were on par with GS before Wes went down in 14-15. Indiana, GS, and SA were probably our only real competition for a title (CLE came on late). We had to make that move to take a risk. If we were to find an analog to the current team, then our movable pieces would be Simons/Trent/Caleb/Jake/picks along with salary fillers like Leonard/Harkless.

Would Harrison Barnes help? I love the idea of Rolo as a backup to Nurk. Perhaps Derrick Favors/ Faried/ Thad Young? I hate that we didn't use our TPE.

Targets will just depend on record, so it’s hard to pinpoint them. If Dallas keeps losing I’d take Barnes. He’s struggled so far, so maybe we could get him for a Myers/Moe/pick package. But I’d rather have Gallinari. I’ve thought for awhile that he would fit with Stotts and looking at the second unit now, he’d be perfect and I want him even more.

Curry
Stauskas
Turner
Gallinari
Collins

I mean that’s filthy.

 

[kjironman1]

Last night in the third quarter the starters went to the bench in a tight game up i think 3 points? They came back well rested and up by 11. That is a huge difference this year. Yes they are better without question.

 

[kjironman1]

Targets will just depend on record, so it’s hard to pinpoint them. If Dallas keeps losing I’d take Barnes. He’s struggled so far, so maybe we could get him for a Myers/Moe/pick package. But I’d rather have Gallinari. I’ve thought for awhile that he would fit with Stotts and looking at the second unit now, he’d be perfect and I want him even more.

Curry
Stauskas
Turner
Gallinari
Collins

I mean that’s filthy.

Times last night Gallinari was the best player on the court. I agree. I think he would fit really well.

 

[illmatic99]

Targets will just depend on record, so it’s hard to pinpoint them. If Dallas keeps losing I’d take Barnes. He’s struggled so far, so maybe we could get him for a Myers/Moe/pick package. But I’d rather have Gallinari. I’ve thought for awhile that he would fit with Stotts and looking at the second unit now, he’d be perfect and I want him even more.

Curry
Stauskas
Turner
Gallinari
Collins

I mean that’s filthy.

Gallo is great when healthy. Last 5 seasons, he has played 0, 59, 53, 63, and 21 games. I don't trust him to be healthy during the playoffs.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Targets will just depend on record, so it’s hard to pinpoint them. If Dallas keeps losing I’d take Barnes. He’s struggled so far, so maybe we could get him for a Myers/Moe/pick package. But I’d rather have Gallinari. I’ve thought for awhile that he would fit with Stotts and looking at the second unit now, he’d be perfect and I want him even more.

Curry
Stauskas
Turner
Gallinari
Collins

I mean that’s filthy.

Well sure, but why would the Clips deal him? He's putting up 20/game for them, and his contract isn't any longer than Moe/Meyers'.

 

[Scalma]

Last night in the third quarter the starters went to the bench in a tight game up i think 3 points? They came back well rested and up by 11. That is a huge difference this year. Yes they are better without question.

The bench is more fun to watch than the starting unit imo. The starters are fun when Dame/CJ are playing well but pretty horrific when they’re off. With the second unit, you never know where the scoring is going to come from, in a good way. They’re just more balanced and unselfish. Curry hasn’t really even gotten going yet either, so they’ll probably just get better.

 

[kjironman1]

The bench is more fun to watch than the starting unit imo. The starters are fun when Dame/CJ are playing well but pretty horrific when they’re off. With the second unit, you never know where the scoring is going to come from, in a good way. They’re just more balanced and unselfish. Curry hasn’t really even gotten going yet either, so they’ll probably just get better.

I'm betting we see a 20+ point game from Curry before this season is over. He will catch fire at some point.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Interesting game for sure. I love it when the Blazers do not shoot well and still win by double digits. You never know when Dame or CJ will go off for a big game. It's nice not to have to depend on it to win.

I will say Aminu played exactly how I want him to always play. 4 shots in 26 minutes. (3-4 from the field, 3-3 at the line, 8 boards, a steal and a block)

 

[Scalma]

Well sure, but why would the Clips deal him? He's putting up 20/game for them, and his contract isn't any longer than Moe/Meyers'.

Well yeah that just goes back to the record thing. If they’re out of contention in February, would they like a late first and a couple expirings? I see the advantage of having two expirings instead of one. They’d also get Moe and Leonard’s bird rights, and they’re both relatively young (compared to Gallo)

Would you give up a late first (plus Moe and Meyers) for Gallinari? One thing I’ve always trusted about Neil is his ability to draft so I’m hesitant to give up picks, but at the same time I’d also trust in his ability to trade back into the second and find value.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Well yeah that just goes back to the record thing. If they’re out of contention in February, would they like a late first and a couple expirings? I see the advantage of having two expirings instead of one. They’d also get Moe and Leonard’s bird rights, and they’re both relatively young (compared to Gallo)

Would you give up a late first (plus Moe and Meyers) for Gallinari? One thing I’ve always trusted about Neil is his ability to draft so I’m hesitant to give up picks, but at the same time I’d also trust in his ability to trade back into the second and find value.

Sure I would, but I'm sure Gallo would have higher trade value than that.

Did a quick search of 6'9" forwards with 38%+ 3p shooting over the past few years, and see several good names on there--most on quality West teams that probably wouldn't be willing to part with them to help us. Luke Babbitt would be good for us in that backup 4 role. I wonder how married the Hornets are to Marvin Williams, considering his poor performance so far this year. Would he be worth a gamble?

 

[Scalma]

Sure I would, but I'm sure Gallo would have higher trade value than that.

Did a quick search of 6'9" forwards with 38%+ 3p shooting over the past few years, and see several good names on there--most on quality West teams that probably wouldn't be willing to part with them to help us. Luke Babbitt would be good for us in that backup 4 role. I wonder how married the Hornets are to Marvin Williams, considering his poor performance so far this year. Would he be worth a gamble?

How much higher could Gallo’s value be than that? He’s making $20m a season. Mirotic makes almost half that and Leonard/Harkless are much better “assets” than Omer Asik and Jameer Nelson were.

 

[Scalma]

Btw in this theoretical world where we trade Meyers and Moe for Gallinari, Clippers probably buy out Gortat. He’d be a nice candidate to fill the last roster spot. Bang baaang.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

How much higher could Gallo’s value be than that? He’s making $20m a season. Mirotic makes almost half that and Leonard/Harkless are much better “assets” than Omer Asik and Jameer Nelson were.

Mirotic was expected to be a UFA that summer, and was definitely not staying in Chicago. Bulls had zero leverage, and wasn't willing to take any long-term salary back. I doubt the Clippers would have anywhere close to the same restraints on a potential Gallo deal at the deadline, so they'd likely get much better value because they have more options available.

That said, if they were even slightly interested in Moe/Meyers/pick(s?) for him, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat.

 

[Scalma]

Mirotic was expected to be a UFA that summer, and was definitely not staying in Chicago. Bulls had zero leverage, and wasn't willing to take any long-term salary back. I doubt the Clippers would have anywhere close to the same restraints on a potential Gallo deal at the deadline, so they'd likely get much better value because they have more options available.

That said, if they were even slightly interested in Moe/Meyers/pick(s?) for him, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat.

Chicago still took on that Asik contract, which they’re going to be paying for the next four years. And Mirotic had a team option, so the Bulls had some leverage. And again, $22m isn’t easy to match, especially since almost no one has money. A late first is a good get for Gallinari imo. I don’t know what more they could realistically expect?

 

[oldmangrouch]

TCOB game. Nothing spectacular - but winning a game they should win against a team that was better than I would have guessed a few weeks ago.

 

[BonesJones]

Sure I would, but I'm sure Gallo would have higher trade value than that.

Did a quick search of 6'9" forwards with 38%+ 3p shooting over the past few years, and see several good names on there--most on quality West teams that probably wouldn't be willing to part with them to help us. Luke Babbitt would be good for us in that backup 4 role. I wonder how married the Hornets are to Marvin Williams, considering his poor performance so far this year. Would he be worth a gamble?

I like Marvin Williams more than. Gallinari.
- Cheaper
- More Durable
- Better Shooter
- Much Better Defender
- Doesn't Need the Ball as Much to be Effective

 

[KingSpeed]

Well yeah that just goes back to the record thing. If they’re out of contention in February, would they like a late first and a couple expirings? I see the advantage of having two expirings instead of one. They’d also get Moe and Leonard’s bird rights, and they’re both relatively young (compared to Gallo)

Would you give up a late first (plus Moe and Meyers) for Gallinari? One thing I’ve always trusted about Neil is his ability to draft so I’m hesitant to give up picks, but at the same time I’d also trust in his ability to trade back into the second and find value.

Mo and Meyers aren’t expiring

 

[Scalma]

Mo and Meyers aren’t expiring

They are next year.