Game Thread Game #16 - BLAZERS VS BULLS - NOVEMBER 17, 2021 - WEDNESDAY - 7:00 PM (PDT) ROOT SPORTS

[Tince]

I dispute that

I'm an Olshey hater, but unlike the vague generalization earlier, I have never rooted for Portland to lose. Never

Only time I'm happy with a Blazer loss is when we've been eliminated from the playoffs and it helps our lottery position. Even then, I can't root for them to lose during the game.

I want us to win a championship under Olshey, that would be amazing!

 

[wizenheimer]

I want us to win a championship under Olshey, that would be amazing!

I want to be 33 again and have Jessica Alba give me a million dollars and 60 year old single malt scotch for boffing her. (she should probably wait till after the boffing for the scotch)

 

[Tince]

 

[riverman]

I frickin' love those new city edition uniforms...they pop!

 

[Tince]

I frickin' love those new city edition uniforms...they pop!

Loving our winning percentage in them as well!

 

[DDolla]

I frickin' love those new city edition uniforms...they pop!

Better than those brown jerseys

 

[Scalma]

I’m a just pretend we gave up two firsts for nance instead of Roco

 

[B-Roy]

Nurk does not sound thrilled.

 

[illmatic99]

Nurk does not sound thrilled.

he posted cryptic shit on social after our one win the last road trip, so the idea that he's completely happy in wins is nonsense. i empathize a bit because dame's struggles HAVE exacerbated the situation and we do revert too much to isos to get lillard going, but as I've been saying... keep it in house. actions speak louder than words in this instance.

contrast his interview with larry's. body language is night and day.

 

[B-Roy]

he posted cryptic shit on social after our one win the last road trip, so the idea that he's completely happy in wins is nonsense. i empathize a bit because dame's struggles HAVE exacerbated the situation and we do revert too much to isos to get lillard going, but as I've been saying... keep it in house. actions speak louder than words in this instance.

contrast his interview with larry's. body language is night and day.

I'm just shaking my head at the immaturity. He's not grown up. Theres not many teams that can offer him a significant contract this off-season, but he may want to leave regardless. I'm hoping we try shopping him.

 

[illmatic99]

I'm just shaking my head at the immaturity. He's not grown up. Theres not many teams that can offer him a significant contract this off-season, but he may want to leave regardless. I'm hoping we try shopping him.

his value is bottom barrel at the moment, mostly due to his contract. no one is giving up value for a pending FA. and i think his defense is too valuable for us to sell low. need to see if we can cheer him up a bit. the petulance is frustrating but it's who he is. not gonna change that.

 

[JDC]

i need to see that ATO play that chauncey drew up around the 330 mark that got Nurk the dunk.

what a terrific play.

Our ATO efficiency seems night and day compared to last yr where we get great looks. wish i could find the numbers to support this.

(on offense anyway, that wide open three we gave up to Lavine was an abomination).

Per PBP Stats ( http://www.pbpstats.com/possession-finder/nba )

20-21: 1.25 ppp
21-22: 1.14 ppp

If you include after made free throws where most coaches will call a set play....

20-21: 1.18 ppp
21-22: 1.11 ppp

 

[BBert]

Nurk does not sound thrilled.

He didn't look thrilled when he came out near the end.

 

[Haakzilla]

Nurk does not sound thrilled.

...you think?! That sounds a bit beyond just "not thrilled"

 

[illmatic99]

Per PBP Stats ( http://www.pbpstats.com/possession-finder/nba )

20-21: 1.25 ppp
21-22: 1.14 ppp

If you include after made free throws where most coaches will call a set play....

20-21: 1.18 ppp
21-22: 1.11 ppp

interesting, great link!

shot quality is improved though, think guys are just missing.

 

[JDC]

Here's the ATO as well...



Quick slip out of the handoff with CJ, weakside occupied by the stagger for Dame.

Beautiful stuff. First time I've seen it.

 

[royo]

Love this. I love when we winning. Even more if we winning with grind, not with hero ball.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Season ticket holders are getting their money's worth. Lots of fun impressive wins at home. If Bulls had won tonight, they would've moved to 1st place in the East.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

No Zeller tonight?

He played and hit 4 free throws.

Females are too emotional and dramatic to be refs

Man are very emotional and dramatic. You're just sexist. And kind of dramatic.

Glad for the win, didn't think they could pull it off.

CJ was hot garbage though.

CJ hit some big shots and made some productive passes in the 4th quarter.

about halftime adjustments:

* this season Portland's net differential is +0.2 points in 3rd Q's. Last season it was +0.7

* this season Portland's net differential is +0.1 points in 2nd halves. Last season it was +1.1 points

of course, last season Portland was 12 games over .500. This season they are just .500.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/team-stats/

Those stats don't say whether adjustments were made or not last season. You can make zero adjustments and just play better because Dame goes off.

From what I’m watching I think billups is a good coach.
That was the most collective fight this team has shown in years

We had lots of collective fight in games last season too. And the year before that, etc.

 

[stampedehero]

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[Mediocre Man]

Here's the ATO as well...



Quick slip out of the handoff with CJ, weakside occupied by the stagger for Dame.

Beautiful stuff. First time I've seen it.

It’s a brilliant play call because no one ever expects ME-J to pass

 

[Orion Bailey]

Garbage

I knew it that we are going to get blown out tonight

 

[Orion Bailey]

Both are garbage

so are your posts.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

At their best I still think nance is the better player/fit with the starters. He can switch onto the perimeter but is much stronger in the post than Roco. Roco might be the better shooter but its not likes he’s much better. Nance is also the better playmaker and rebounder.

Don't disagree there.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

so are your posts.

He absolutely disappeared about 6 minutes into the 3rd. To be fair about 4 people did.

 

[Orion Bailey]

He absolutely disappeared about 6 minutes into the 3rd. To be fair about 4 people did.

typical…

 

[wizenheimer]

Those stats don't say whether adjustments were made or not last season. You can make zero adjustments and just play better because Dame goes off.

LOL...yeah, right.

if we're talking half-time adjustments you'd certainly think 2nd half scoring margins, season --> season, Stotts --> Billups, are germane to the discussion. You know, adjustments --> result

by the way, after last night's game Portland's 2nd half scoring margin this season went up to +1.3 from +0.1. But of course, that had nothing to do with adjustments; per your example that was just because of a couple of players "going off". Of course, that giant leap in differential is because there is still so much wild variance, game to game, because of limited sample sizes

as an example, Portland's defensive rating in last night's game dropped them from 24th to 26th



Charlotte had a rating of 93.6 so they jumped from 26 to 24. Orlando had a rating of 100.2 so they improved. Portland fell slightly with a rating of 112.6. After the all-star break, ratings and rankings won't shift much from a single game and you'll get a better handle on where a team is...including on 2nd half point differentials

 

[Cugel]

Someone needs to have a heart to heart with Nurk. That attitude hurts the team.

 

[Labinot41]

44 points in the 2nd half for the Bulls, i say under Stotts they would have scored between 60 and 70

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

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Yes, Little brings a lot of energy, but you can see it's not always good energy. He was a detriment in the first half last night. He just needs to play a little smarter. I really wish Stotts had played him a lot in the lost season last year so he could have worked out some of the kinks.