Game Thread GAME# 22: BUCKS @ BLAZERS - NOVEMBER 30, 2017 - THURSDAY, 7:00 (PST), NBATV & NBCSNW

[Shaboid]

I can appreciate this post, but Pat really doesn't add to our team defese. He does stretch the floor though opening passing lanes

Agree to disagree, I'm fine with that. He's been contributing.

 

[BBert]

For a guy who a lot of fans have derided as a talentless unathletic scrub, Pat sure makes A LOT of good, heady basketball plays over the course of a game. He's a classic glue guy, and a damn good shooter.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Pat is probably not the long term solution at SF, but his presence in the starting lineup sure demonstrates the difference an extra outside shooter means to this team.

 

[illmatic99]

Pat is probably not the long term solution at SF, but his presence in the starting lineup sure demonstrates the difference an extra outside shooter means to this team.

It's not just the shooting, though. He plays like he cares, and he's never out of position on either end of the floor. Same can't be said of Harkless. I'd be perfectly fine playing a Moe who shot 30% from 3 if he played hard and crashed the boards or made sharp cuts, etc.

Pat's size makes this move unsustainable unfortunately, but he just plays solid when he's out there. What a change from just 2 months ago when I thought we'd cut him.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

It's not just the shooting, though. He plays like he cares, and he's never out of position on either end of the floor. Same can't be said of Harkless. I'd be perfectly fine playing a Moe who shot 30% from 3 if he played hard and crashed the boards or made sharp cuts, etc.

Pat's size makes this move unsustainable unfortunately, but he just plays solid when he's out there. What a change from just 2 months ago when I thought we'd cut him.

Pat should be our primary backup wing this season. A tall long lineup with Aminu at SF is tenable if he can keep up his shooting, and if you have a good shooter behind him; that's where Pat will make his money. Harkless has fallen into one of his pouting sessions unfortunately. I don't know if Dame will invest the time to dig him out a third time.

 

[Pinwheel1]

It's not just the shooting, though. He plays like he cares, and he's never out of position on either end of the floor. Same can't be said of Harkless. I'd be perfectly fine playing a Moe who shot 30% from 3 if he played hard and crashed the boards or made sharp cuts, etc.

Pat's size makes this move unsustainable unfortunately, but he just plays solid when he's out there. What a change from just 2 months ago when I thought we'd cut him.

Yeah that was my point as well. His size is a little small for SF. He is the same height as Wes but only around 210.

I will say his 37.5" no step vertical does not hurt. (44" max)

 

[SIeepwalker]

youre on ignore also cause you (France) beat us last night

Did we ? I'm not even watching the WC Qualifiers because... well, I don't know most of the players on the team.
If we qualify, we're probably gonna have at least 10 differents players on the WC roster, that's stupid

 

[Pinwheel1]

Pat should be our primary backup wing this season. A tall long lineup with Aminu at SF is tenable if he can keep up his shooting, and if you have a good shooter behind him; that's where Pat will make his money. Harkless has fallen into one of his pouting sessions unfortunately. I don't know if Dame will invest the time to dig him out a third time.

On paper that definitely sounds good. He could do it if he just shot the corner 3's.

Where he is not as good as Pat, and where it could hurt the team......is not having the 3rd ball handler. The offense flows a lot better with 3 guards. But I would love to see Aminu and his huge wingspan at SF work out. He just has to acknowledge his limitations on offense. He can hit the wide open short 3, but not the contested long 3. (So just shoot the short 3's) Dribbling in traffic against smaller players........not a good idea. So don't do it. But taking a slower big man off the dribble and attacking the rim....that has worked well.

That's what I like about Vonleh. Some people think he is not aggressive enough on offense, I on the other hand appreciate that he knows that there are 3 players on the court who are better shooters, so he gets them the ball. Like Harry said......"A man's got to know his limitations".

 

[stampedehero]

At 5 above .500 we got our Mojo goin on!

 

[BlazerBeav]

 

[noknobs]

So when Aminu comes back does he replace Pat, Vonleh or neither?

Pat/Vonleh have been playing well and the team has been winning.

 

[riverman]

So when Aminu comes back does he replace Pat, Vonleh or neither?

Pat/Vonleh have been playing well and the team has been winning.

I'll bet Stotts brings him off the bench to begin with with Mo...Vonleh owns the 4 for now..if he starts Chief it'll be at the 3

 

[theprunetang]

So when Aminu comes back does he replace Pat, Vonleh or neither?

Pat/Vonleh have been playing well and the team has been winning.

I've noticed that Stotts doesn't change a thing if the team is winning. It's like CJ and his hair cut.
Pat will continue starting until a loss, then Aminu will take over at SF, leaving Chili in his more natural bench role.

 

[-Ace-]

 

[theprunetang]

This will be the big test on wether I end up loving or hating these jerseys.

 

[Scalma]

I've noticed that Stotts doesn't change a thing if the team is winning. It's like CJ and his hair cut.
Pat will continue starting until a loss, then Aminu will take over at SF, leaving Chili in his more natural bench role.

Pat might actually fit best with the starters. He will get cleaner looks and have an easier job playing with Dame, CJ, and Nurk.

 

[theprunetang]

Pat might actually fit best with the starters. He will get cleaner looks and have an easier job playing with Dame, CJ, and Nurk.

True. And i know Stotts really likes playing Aminu and Harkless together for their switching abilities on defense.

The Bucks game will be a big test for Pat in the starting lineup. He will start against Middleton, who has a huge length advantage on him. It will be an interesting matchup to watch.

 

[GrandJury]

Those jerseys are clean

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Overall I like the jersey but not thrilled with the sash.

 

[Shaboid]

Sad I'm not going to be able to make this game. I've attended the last two times we played the Bucks because Giannis is just such a freak of nature. At least we won one of them.

 

[ripcityboy]

True. And i know Stotts really likes playing Aminu and Harkless together for their switching abilities on defense.

The Bucks game will be a big test for Pat in the starting lineup. He will start against Middleton, who has a huge length advantage on him. It will be an interesting matchup to watch.

Oh shit.

 

[Labinot41]

I don't feel good about starting Pat against the bucks with their fucking long arms. The bucks are the Most difficult matchup for us imo with the size and their good defense. I expect a ugly defense game

 

[theprunetang]

Oh shit.

Yep. I am a Pat fan, but Middleton could really expose our small ball lineup. This is why Pat is best off the bench in the long term. I've been happy with the way he has played as a starter though. But these are the matchups that could really expose our lack of size. We shall find out.

 

[BonesJones]

Yep. I am a Pat fan, but Middleton could really expose our small ball lineup. This is why Pat is best off the bench in the long term. I've been happy with the way he has played as a starter though. But these are the matchups that could really expose our lack of size. We shall find out.

I still think the best option long term is that he's not in the rotation.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

Yep. I am a Pat fan, but Middleton could really expose our small ball lineup. This is why Pat is best off the bench in the long term. I've been happy with the way he has played as a starter though. But these are the matchups that could really expose our lack of size. We shall find out.

What do you think about Jake in the starting line up against the Bucks instead? Maybe playing with the starters will have the same effect on his shooting that it has with Pat? Also he is long enough to defend Middleton.

 

[TBpup]

Not only is this a revenge game, the Blazers have to start defending their home court with much more vigor. GF is going to get his but don't let everyone else go off.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

Not only is this a revenge game, the Blazers have to start defending their home court with much more vigor. GF is going to get his but don't let everyone else go off.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, last time we didn't have have Vonleh, this time we do. If I was Stotts I would put Noah on The Freak all game.

To clarify, If Giannis is in the game so is Vonleh and he doesn't go out until GF does and when he comes back in so does Noah. Don't even give The Freak a chance to get going against Davis, Meyers, Caleb or whoever Stotts decides to give minutes to off the bench tomorrow. Giannis is Noah's assignment.

Yes, I realize this would mean that Stotts would have to not be so stringent on his rotations but I can hope can't I?

 

[theprunetang]

I still think the best option long term is that he's not in the rotation.

Agree to disagree. He is a fine role player that does his job and helps the team while on the floor. He deserves to play and I feel confident that good things will happen when he is in the game.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I still think the best option long term is that he's not in the rotation.

Did you feel the same way about Crabbe last season, that he is not a rotation player?

I know its only been 1/4 of a season, but all of Pat's shooting percentages (FG%, 2FG%, 3FG%, eFG%, FT%, TS%) are better than Crabbe's were last season. He also has a higher TRB% and a higher AST% and is playing better defense than Crabbe did.

He is doing better at the one thing Crabbe does well (shooting), rebounds better, is a better passer, plays better defense and can actually dribble the basketball. So, in what way is he not a rotation player?

BNM

 

[dviss1]

This will be the big test on wether I end up loving or hating these jerseys.

They're growing on me. Dame looks cold ADONAL FOYLE in that uni!