Game 24 Devils vs. Rangers

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kreidertime

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If they don't play good defense tonight they will be embarrassed.
 
That is correct. Where is Mancini Drury? Trade Lindgren or Trouba already or just give them away. They both stink. Miller can go too along with the soon to be anvil with that contract and NTC kicking in Fox!
 
Miller has to go first. That is a must. Zibanejad next even if they have to embarrass him. Or Drury needs to call him in and basically tell him learn how to train, stop fucking off DJ'ing, dedicate yourself to hockey or you will be scratched until you accept a trade.
 
I think Lindgren will be the first to go. They will try and upgrade the 3rd pairing. I think Miller makes it through the season.
 
What the fuck. How many game do they let other teams score in the first two minutes of the game.
 
Good goaltending Igor. His price is going down really quickly. lol Did the rangers a favor for not taking that contract, dumbass.
 
Two guys down and Zibaneschmo still can't get shots through.
 
Good part about sucking is that it should force Drury to trade some players away. Bad part is that it’s Drury doing the trading so we will get fleeced as he’s beyond incompetent. Can’t wait to see what 4th liner and 7th d-man this retard traded for to solidify us.
 
They put Miller with Schneider and he immediately ruined him.
 
The only way I see this team even being competitive this year is if they start playing the trap. Otherwise, this season is lost.
 
I don't think it is surprising how incompetent the team became in one year. It was over after last season, Drury decided he was afraid and incapable of doing his job, so unfortunately it wasn't over like it should have obviously been to anyone with any knowledge, and the stale old core stayed together, and this is the predictable result.

The small group of us who called this out for what it was real time were spot on. This was/is an epic failure by a frightened in over his head GM at the trade DL last season, followed/compounded by an epically terrible and embarrassing decision to do nothing this past summer. And we're supposed to trust the same guy is now capable of doing his job and making the (right) moves that should have been made months ago. I won't hold my breath.
 
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Where's he been, stuck at the Chipotle in Norwalk?
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He was sending out a note to all the teams in the NHL the Rangers are open for business. A week later, they are still open for business I assume...maybe if he sent that note out in June/July he would have gotten better results than late Nov when trades rarely happen. That's crazy talk though.
 
You do realize dumbass that you can't make moves at the deadline if you don't have cap space and other teams don't want what you are offering. Plus, you as always want to piss all the teams draft picks away. Thus, one of the reasons the team now has an aging core with not enough young players in the system to replace them. There isn't one impact center on the farm.
 
See, the problem tool is that when you piss away most of your draft picks every season, your core gets old then your team sucks. Giving up a second rounder for Smith. Another example of incompetent stupidity. This team needs a real GM. Then they need to start a rebuild. Acquire a lot of draft picks. Start drafting some centers with high picks. At this point, there is no reason to keep Shesterkin. He'll waste the best years of his career here.
 
Oh, I do realize that. And they had cap space, and plenty of it, as Chytil was on LTIR so his money accrued throughout the year. Look, we'll just agree to disagree. If you think Drury is a good GM and did a great job at the trade DL last season, I disagree and said so at the time. We don't have to agree. All good.

And once again, no one said piss all the draft picks away, that is a story you have made up in your head. But when your team has a legit chance, you take some smart risks with picks. And BTW, as it is, Drury traded two 2nd round picks to move Nemeth, he traded a 2nd for Wennberg, he traded a 2nd round pick and a 5th round pick for useless and scratched two games ago Smith (I called this one a disaster real time), he traded a 4th for Roslovic, a 4th for Ruhwedel. So sure, he held onto the 1st round pick, but he dealt all their 2nd round picks until 2028. So, he has traded picks, he has just traded them poorly and for crap returns.

The bottom line is the guy is awful at his job. I think it is impossible to fairly debate it. But again, we can disagree on that.
 
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kreidertime said:
See, the problem tool is that when you piss away most of your draft picks every season, your core gets old then your team sucks. Giving up a second rounder for Smith. Another example of incompetent stupidity. This team needs a real GM. Then they need to start a rebuild. Acquire a lot of draft picks. Start drafting some centers with high picks. At this point, there is no reason to keep Shesterkin. He'll waste the best years of his career here.
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This post is exactly what I have been saying for weeks now, welcome aboard. I said weeks ago the Rangers should be major sellers this season. I also said signing Igor for anything more than $11M TOPS, is ridiculous and he should be traded instead (and even $11M is too much, but I would bite the bullet and do it, but not one cent more).

We agree on this as I have been saying for weeks, BUT the fly in the ointment continues to be a Pres/GM, who is in over his head and afraid, and won't be able to pull anything off that will actually help the team. That's the issue here, Drury is awful at his job.
 
One thing we all agree on...Drury was not ready to be GM and he continues to be a major mistake/problem for the organization. They need to move on from him instantly.
 
In order to do a quick rebuild, Shesterkin will need to be dealt. Only a few places I see as a fit. He has 10 teams in his NTC. Who knows who they are. Buffalo who is looking to do something big. They have 3 centers in the top 100. They have two young goalies they can send back. A lefty defenseman as well. It would be a monster deal which would have to be a sign and trade for Shesterkin on Buffalo's end. Drury is clueless so I doubt he could execute such a deal. Then you have Cozens who for some reason has taken a step back the past two years but it's Buffalo who can't every seem to get it right. That would be the ideal fit IMO. Seattle is another place. Shane Wright who could blossom into a top 2 center. Catton who is rated very high in the top 100 who is a center. Then Utah. Which would center more around young prospects and lots of picks. Of those three, good chance at least one is on his no trade list. Colorado would want him the most but they don't have much to offer in return. I could see them going for Quick at the deadline.
 
Trade Shesterkin, Fox, Trouba and Kreider and you have a major shock to the team that will revitalize it with talented youth. Z should go too but would be the hardest to trade given his contract and don't think Drury has what it takes to pull it off.
 
Shesterkin and Fox would probably be the only ones you could deal before the deadline. Other guys, teams would want to wait. I'd probably keep Kreider. Simply for the fact he works with the kids on how to train. I'm finally open to dealing Shesterkin and Fox. Mostly because I don't think you could do a rebuild and acquire top center prospects without dealing those 2 guys. I wouldn't want to deal them but I don't see anybody else bringing back a lot. Miller you could probably get a decent return for because a team that played defense probably would believe they could fix him. Lindgren a playoff team will be interested in at the deadline. Trouba probably won't bring back much.

What I do know is that this window is closed. You have a bunch of overpaid, sulking vets who are throwing a tantrum and have quit because Goodrow got waived and they tried to deal Trouba.
 
Did not realize Kreider works with the kids on how to train, but on the ice he does not merit being here. I like he has been getting fewer minutes at ES where he does nothing, and $6.5M is too rich for a PP/PK specialist. Give his role on the PP to Cuylle who can park himself in front of the net and tip pucks in for a fraction of the cost.
 
I think Kreider will eventually be a coach in the organization. Fitness or something else. Kreider actually produces in the playoffs. We need a real GM first and foremost. I would go get Marc Bergevin who basically left the Canadians. I would feel comfortable with him running things.
 
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I didn’t think things would start going this badly but the poor play doesn’t surprise me. They were clearly a win now team with their cap situation. That’s the reason they needed to be more aggressive going for it at the deadline last year. Can’t change the past now. The cap has been mismanaged and they didn’t win shit.
 
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