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Anyone who thinks the struggles aren't coaching related I give you Coach Stotts answer to why Jake hadn't been playing.



Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about coach? The bench has been terrible lately but apparently the guy in charge thinks everyone is playing great and needs to stick together.

It's coaching, case closed.
Ha - that's what jumped out at me too (as evidenced by my previous post).
 
Moe went into the starting lineup and we kept Seth and Nik and Evan, the bench that was doing so well, kept that group together. So getting Moe in the starting lineup was kind of a priority and there’s a minutes crunch, and that’s kind of the way it is.

Stotts should be fired on that quote alone
 
I think its important to get Harkless back on track as I would think he could be a piece in a trade and could have better value than Jake at this point. Neither may not be here next year and I think 1 is gone by trade deadline.
 
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I think its important to get Harmless back on track as I would think he could be a piece in a trade and could have better value than Jake at this point. Neither may not be here next year and I think 1 is gone by trade deadline.

Do you intentionally call him Harmless, or is that auto-correct in action? I have noticed in the past that both my phone and my tablet constantly want to auto-correct Harkless to Harmless. Which to me, is a very fitting nickname for a guy who rarely shows up. I can just hear opposing coaches going over their scouting reports before playing the Blazers: "Don't worry about Moe, he's Harmless."

BNM
 
Is this quote by Phoenix coach representative of how Portland is viewed? "we have to focus on Miami, whose talent is to play hard, they’re going to play harder than this team".
Yep. Portland frequently goes through the motions.
 
Do you intentionally call him Harmless, or is that auto-correct in action? I have noticed in the past that both my phone and my tablet constantly want to auto-correct Harkless to Harmless. Which to me, is a very fitting nickname for a guy who rarely shows up. I can just hear opposing coaches going over their scouting reports before playing the Blazers: "Don't worry about Moe, he's Harmless."

BNM
good catch my computer did it! Ill fix it. I try not to label anyone. Thanks
 
What a fucking boob.

Why does that quote make Stotts a boob? He was talking about how well the bench was playing the first part of the season when Harkless was out. The team was 12-7 up to the point he returned and the play of the bench was a big part of that. Moe took Layman's spot in the starting lineup against the Kings and Stotts didn't want to break up what had been a successful second unit up until that point. I don't think that decision makes the coach a boob. Given that the second unit has been playing like crap since that point, however, means that it's time to try something different. Stotts did that last night with Layman and it worked out great, but will it against a team that isn't the total mess that the Suns are? I mean, come on, let's be real here. Layman had a game like that on the opening night of his career and then again last night. I'm in favor of him getting more run with the second unit to see what he can do, but viewing him as a savior based on a hot game every couple of years is, well, kind of boob-ish IMHO.
 
I'm in favor of him getting more run with the second unit to see what he can do, but viewing him as a savior based on a hot game every couple of years is, well, kind of boob-ish IMHO.

I'm starting to take this personally.

BNM
 
You really shouldn't. As your moniker says, you are currently a recovered boob. That's to be celebrated.

I must honor my roots. I cannot forget where it is that I came from!

BNM
 
Why does that quote make Stotts a boob? He was talking about how well the bench was playing the first part of the season when Harkless was out. The team was 12-7 up to the point he returned and the play of the bench was a big part of that. Moe took Layman's spot in the starting lineup against the Kings and Stotts didn't want to break up what had been a successful second unit up until that point. I don't think that decision makes the coach a boob. Given that the second unit has been playing like crap since that point, however, means that it's time to try something different. Stotts did that last night with Layman and it worked out great, but will it against a team that isn't the total mess that the Suns are? I mean, come on, let's be real here. Layman had a game like that on the opening night of his career and then again last night. I'm in favor of him getting more run with the second unit to see what he can do, but viewing him as a savior based on a hot game every couple of years is, well, kind of boob-ish IMHO.
Mayyyyyyyyybe I can see that argument if that question was asked after the game Harkless was reinserted into the lineup. It seems silly to still say that answer given the struggles between that decision and now.

If we're being honest how many times has Curry played well this year? I'm not trying to pile on him or anything but I wouldn't describe much he's done so far as playing well. Turner had a few good games and then Stotts put him back into a non-distributor mode and he plays too much with the starters. For how "well" Stauskas has been playing he's shooting 42.8% from the field and just 36.6% from 3.

I just don't get how anyone could say that trio is playing well together outside of a couple games.
 
Why does that quote make Stotts a boob? He was talking about how well the bench was playing the first part of the season when Harkless was out. The team was 12-7 up to the point he returned and the play of the bench was a big part of that. Moe took Layman's spot in the starting lineup against the Kings and Stotts didn't want to break up what had been a successful second unit up until that point. I don't think that decision makes the coach a boob. Given that the second unit has been playing like crap since that point, however, means that it's time to try something different. Stotts did that last night with Layman and it worked out great, but will it against a team that isn't the total mess that the Suns are? I mean, come on, let's be real here. Layman had a game like that on the opening night of his career and then again last night. I'm in favor of him getting more run with the second unit to see what he can do, but viewing him as a savior based on a hot game every couple of years is, well, kind of boob-ish IMHO.
It fits the narrative when they take a fragment of a statement and make it something it isn’t.
 
Why does that quote make Stotts a boob? He was talking about how well the bench was playing the first part of the season when Harkless was out. The team was 12-7 up to the point he returned and the play of the bench was a big part of that. Moe took Layman's spot in the starting lineup against the Kings and Stotts didn't want to break up what had been a successful second unit up until that point. I don't think that decision makes the coach a boob. Given that the second unit has been playing like crap since that point, however, means that it's time to try something different. Stotts did that last night with Layman and it worked out great, but will it against a team that isn't the total mess that the Suns are? I mean, come on, let's be real here. Layman had a game like that on the opening night of his career and then again last night. I'm in favor of him getting more run with the second unit to see what he can do, but viewing him as a savior based on a hot game every couple of years is, well, kind of boob-ish IMHO.

I think it's more of a "You see the bench struggling, and you took out Layman -just because- Harkless came back... and HE hasn't proved anything (this year)... yet you're still stubborn and gave a BS answer as to why Layman wasn't seeing ANY run"

Which I totally agree with.
 
It fits the narrative when they take a fragment of a statement and make it something it isn’t.

What else could it be? Given all the evidence of how the team has played, and how it looked... there's not many ways to look at it.
 
I think it's more of a "You see the bench struggling, and you took out Layman -just because- Harkless came back... and HE hasn't proved anything... yet you're still stubborn and gave a BS answer as to why Layman wasn't seeing ANY run"

Which I totally agree with.
Got to agree that Stotts has always been a bit stubborn.
 
It fits the narrative when they take a fragment of a statement and make it something it isn’t.
So you think Curry, ET, and Stauskas are playing so well that there is no way coach can break them up?
 
What else could it be? Given all the evidence of how the team has played, and how it looked... there's not many ways to look at it.
This board always blows up at the first sign of adversity. Stotts is rigid but he always makes changes eventually. Just never fast enough for some in here. He works at his own speed.
 
Who said that? Not I?
That is literally what Stotts said, but then you said we are taking a fragment and turning it into something it isn't.

This board always blows up at the first sign of adversity. Stotts is rigid but he always makes changes eventually. Just never fast enough for some in here. He works at his own speed.
You can excuse that on teams with a lot of new players. The core of this team has been together several years now. The evidence was clearly there at the beginning of the season that an offense with more ball movement works. Why should Stotts get a pass for it reverting back?
 
That is literally what Stotts said, but then you said we are taking a fragment and turning it into something it isn't.


You can excuse that on teams with a lot of new players. The core of this team has been together several years now. The evidence was clearly there at the beginning of the season that an offense with more ball movement works. Why should Stotts get a pass for it reverting back?
Nah. That isn’t what he said. He was talking about The way the team was playing when Moe came back. But I ain’t here to argue with you. Read it however you want.
 
Nah. That isn’t what he said. He was talking about The way the team was playing when Moe came back. But I ain’t here to argue with you. Read it however you want.
I'm not trying to argue with you but you are saying people interpret his words to fit their narrative, WHILE interpreting his words to fit your narrative.

To that I have a few questions for you:

Why answer that way several games later?

With the benches recent struggles why did it take an injury to change it up?

At what point in the season has Curry played well?

Outside of 5 games, has Stauskas really done much to warrant guaranteed minutes?


You know how I know that Stotts is completely full of shit? Outside of the first few games he's gone back to leaving Dame in for the first part of the 2nd unit playing and bringing CJ back in early in the 2nd/4th quarters. How does that fit with what he is saying about wanting to keep Curry, ET, and Stauskas playing together when he hasn't trusted them without Dame or CJ lately anyway?
 
I'm not trying to argue with you but you are saying people interpret his words to fit their narrative, WHILE interpreting his words to fit your narrative.

To that I have a few questions for you:

Why answer that way several games later?

With the benches recent struggles why did it take an injury to change it up?

At what point in the season has Curry played well?

Outside of 5 games, has Stauskas really done much to warrant guaranteed minutes?


You know how I know that Stotts is completely full of shit? Outside of the first few games he's gone back to leaving Dame in for the first part of the 2nd unit playing and bringing CJ back in early in the 2nd/4th quarters. How does that fit with what he is saying about wanting to keep Curry, ET, and Stauskas playing together when he hasn't trusted them without Dame or CJ lately anyway?
No interpretation on my part. I just read the whole comment.
As far as the rest Stotts has always been a bit stubborn. Some call it thorough. I would have changed things up going into Texas. But I ain’t the coach. The good thing about being stringent about rotation and lineups is that the players are secure in their approach. The bad thing is that players are secure in their approach. Get it?
Lots of changes could be made. Don’t think many will until ownership is dealt with. I’m hoping it happens sooner than later. This year might be pretty much over already. I’m gonna cheer the team and hope for the best.
 

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