Game Thread GAME# 26: TIMBERWOLVES @ BLAZERS - DECEMBER 8, 2018 - SATURDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

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Are we a better overall team without CJ?


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2018-19 REGULAR SEASON RECORD
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES
13 - 12
(2-8 Road)
PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS

14 - 11
(9-4 Home)

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PROBABLE STARTERS---------


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JEFF TEAGUE VS DAMIAN LILLARD

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ANDREW WIGGINS VS SETH CURRY

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ROBERT COVINGTON VS MAURICE HARKLESS

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TAJ GIBSON VS AL-FAROUQ AMINU

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KARL-ANTHONY TOWNS VS JUSUF NURKIC

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WHEN: 7:00 PM (PST), SATURDAY, 12/8/2018

WHERE: Moda Center, Portland, OR
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TV BROADCAST:

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RADIO BROADCAST:
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-- MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES --
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JONES , ROSE , TERRELL
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OKOGIE , NUNNALLY , WILLIAMS
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BATES-DIOP , TOLLIVER , SARIC
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DENG , DIENG

---- PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS ----
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BALDWIN , SIMONS
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TURNER , STAUSKAS , TRENT Jr.
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LAYMAN , SWANIGAN
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COLLINS , LEONARD



INJURIES

TIMBERWOLVES
Jerryd Bayless (sprained left knee): OUT
TRAIL BLAZERS
C.J. McCollum (left ankle sprain): QUESTIONABLE



HEAD COACHES
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TOM THIBODEAU --- TERRY STOTTS




:reading:OFFICIAL TIMBERWOLVES' GAME NOTES
:reading: OFFICIAL BLAZERS' GAME NOTES

• Saturday’s game marks the third of four meetings between the Trail Blazers and the Timberwolves during the 2018-19 season. The season series is tied, 1-1.

• LAST MEETING: The Timberwolves beat the Trail Blazers in Minnesota on Nov. 16, 112-96. CJ McCollum led the Trail Blazers with 18 points (8-16 FG, 1-4 3-PT, 1-2 FT) to go with one rebound, two assists and one steal while Andrew Wiggins led Minnesota with 23 points (9-21 FG, 3-8 3-PT, 2-2 FT) to go with five rebounds, four assists, two steals and one block.

• In two games against the Timberwolves this season, Damian Lillard has averaged 17.0 points, 5.5 rebounds and 5.0 assists.

• Jusuf Nurkic has averaged 16.0 points, 11.5 rebounds, 1.0 assist and 1.0 block in two games against Minnesota this season.

• In two games against the Trail Blazers this season, Karl-Anthony Towns has averaged 18.5 points, 7.0 rebounds, and 2.0 assists.

HEAD-TO-HEAD HISTORY:
ALL TIME: Trail Blazers lead, 82-34
IN PORTLAND: Trail Blazers lead, 47-12
AT THE TIMBERWOLVES: Trail Blazers lead, 35-22




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Anyone who votes "Yes" should not expect anyone to give up anything of value for CJ, since (in their minds) he makes teams worse.

He makes Portland worse since we already have a ball dominant scorer. Having two doesn’t make sense unless they’re both also good playmakers. But some teams don’t even have one, nevermind one on his level. It’s not like he has no value. His best use to Portland is as a trade chip. Too bad the GM is too stubborn/dumb to see it.
 
He makes Portland worse since we already have a ball dominant scorer. Having two doesn’t make sense unless they’re both also good playmakers. But some teams don’t even have one, nevermind one on his level. It’s not like he has no value. His best use to Portland is as a trade chip. Too bad the GM is too stubborn/dumb to see it.
Having ball dominant two scorers is bad? Lol. If CJ was really that valuable it wouldn't matter that he was a 2nd ball dominant scorer... hed still help the team.
 
You’re not getting one for anyone on our roster outside of Dame.
You seriously think we couldn't acquire a guy like Courtney Lee, Wesley Matthews, or Marvin Williams without trading Dame huh? Thats the baseline Even Otto Porter Jr...?
 
You seriously think we couldn't acquire a guy like Courtney Lee, Wesley Matthews, or Marvin Williams without trading Dame huh? Thats the baseline Even Otto Porter Jr...?

If those guys fit your description of two way players, so does Isaac.
 
If those guys fit your description of two way players, so does Isaac.
Over his short career, Isaac has a 50.5 TS%, an OBPM of -3.7, and an AST:TOV ratio of 0.8:1.0.

None of those guys are that bad on either side of the ball.
 
Over his short career, Isaac has a 50.5 TS%, an OBPM of -3.7, and an AST:TOV ratio of 0.8:1.0.

None of those guys are that bad on either side of the ball.

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And Isaac is only 21 while the majority of the rest are dinosaurs.
 
Oh ok.

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And Isaac is only 21 while the majority of the rest are dinosaurs.
I dont understand what you're trying to show me with those stats.

I get why hed be enticing, he has definite two-way potential, I just think we should be trying to improve by adding two-way players, and Isaac isnt there yet. Those guys are older, but right now, they're better.
 
Jake has to be the Starter again, he deserves it. They should go back to:

Dame
CJ
Jake
Aminu
Nurkic

and bench:

Turn(over)er
Curry
Stauskas
Moe
Collins
 
Yea Olshey miss one by drafting Swanigan instead of Hart. Hart was on my radar that draft because he was 2 way player.
 
The 2nd Unit needs Moe for Defense

So does the first unit lol. I like the idea of layman starting, but he has to get the ball, and has to stop getting vonleh’d. There’s probably more of a chance that happens with the second unit. Either way, he needs a bigger role and more minutes.
 
It looks like Covington's hair has chia pet syndrome. We have to focus and play like last night. Curry impressed me. The Wolves are NOT a good road team this year, so far. Play Jake sit Harkless.
 
I say play Jake and see if he can continue the offense he opened up last night. We can always put Harkless in if they shoot us out of the building. Like Covington and co did us last time.
 
Jake has to be the Starter again, he deserves it. They should go back to:

Dame
CJ
Jake
Aminu
Nurkic

and bench:

Turn(over)er
Curry
Stauskas
Moe
Collins
Won't happen, but I'd rather see:
Dame
CJ
Layman
Collins
Nurk​

and bench:
Turner
Stauskas
Moe
Chief
Leonard​
 

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