Game Thread GAME# 32: BLAZERS @ LAKERS - FEBRUARY 26, 2021 - FRIDAY, 7:00, ESPN & NBCSNW

[Sheldon Shape]

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I'll let you guess who is who.

You're famous for cherry picking stats so I have no idea who you're comparing.

Also, one statistic doesn't negate all the rest of them just because it's favorable to your argument.

But, you know that.

 

[Tince]

You're famous for cherry picking stats so I have no idea who you're comparing.

Also, one statistic doesn't negate all the rest of them just because it's favorable to your argument.

But, you know that.

You said "the numbers" without providing numbers.

I didn't provide one statistic, I provided five that in total should give some context.

No GM in the league would trade Harrell and his BIGGER contract for Kanter. That's my opinion.

 

[AldoTrapani]

@Natebishop3 and I been telling ya all season

 

[Tince]

So when does Nurk come back? Is it about mid March? After the break?

Since the Blazers aren't great with transparency, I can only guess, but here it goes:

CJ comes back before Nurk. CJ comes back after the all-star break.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

You said "the numbers" without providing numbers.

I didn't provide one statistic, I provided five.

No GM in the league would trade Harrell and his BIGGER contract for Kanter. That's my opinion.

You're changing the argument. We've already covered that.

You said the difference between Kanter and Harrell is bigger than Trent v Caruso.

I think that's pretty idiotic and you didn't back that up at all.

 

[AldoTrapani]

So when does Nurk come back? Is it about mid March? After the break?

It won’t help much trust me. He was looking terrible before he got injured

 

[Tince]

You're changing the argument. We've already covered that.

You said the difference between Kanter and Harrell is bigger than Trent v Caruso.

I think that's pretty idiotic and you didn't back that up at all.

Did you back it up?

Player Set #1



Player Set #2



Player set #1, one of the players is better in all six categories.

Player set 2, one player is better in 4 of the 6.

 

[DUB]

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[UKRAINEFAN]

I'm talkin' about the play in this game....you'd have to be a real idiot to think my post was about their careers and value in the league.....TONIGHT...being the clue word here....you can laugh about that all you want...Trent dug us a hole tonight...Caruso helped his team win

Caruso always does things to help his team win, timely steals, timely assists, take a charge, grab a rebound, make a clutch shot.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Did you back it up?

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Player Set #2
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Player set #1, one of the players is better Player set #1, one of

Did you back it up?

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Player set #1, one of the players is better in all six categories.

Player set 2, one player is better in 4 of the 6.

As I said, one statistic, W/S, doesn't negate all the rest.

And again, you're changing the argument. It wouldn't matter if one player has a better advanced stat than the rest, that wasn't your argument.

You would take the difference between one set and compare it to the other. Not one stat of one player vs 3.

I'm trying to help you make your argument better.

Anyways, I stand by that LeBron would take the Blazers roster on the floor tonight over his. And, it's not even close.

Goodnight.

 

[DUB]

Caruso always does things to help his team win, timely steals, timely assists, take a charge, grab a rebound, make a clutch shot.

We would be a better team if he was our backup point guard.

 

[Tince]

As I said, one statistic, W/S, doesn't negate all the rest.

And again, you're changing the argument. It wouldn't matter if one player has a better advanced stat than the rest, that wasn't your argument.

You would take the difference between one set and compare it to the other. Not one stat of one player vs 3.

I'm trying to help you make your argument better.

Anyways, I stand by that LeBron would take the Blazers roster on the floor tonight over his. And, it's not even close.

Goodnight.

Appreciate your help... always good to debate and hash things out, even if we don't agree.

I think we would both agree that having root for the a roster made up the Lakers players minus LeBron & AD, or the Blazers players minus CJ, Nurk, Collins, and Giles would be painful!

 

[PHXBlazer1]

Caruso always does things to help his team win, timely steals, timely assists, take a charge, grab a rebound, make a clutch shot.

Caruso is criminally underrated by some folks

 

[OneSport3]

Caruso is criminally underrated by some folks

Also very overrated by Lakers fans.

 

[Tince]

Also very overrated by Lakers fans.

A fan base overrating their bench players? Nearly impossible for me to imagine!

 

[Natebishop3]

A fan base overrating their bench players? Nearly impossible for me to imagine!

This is true. Our bench players suck ass.

 

[B-Roy]

wtf do you want Nas to do when melo is jacking 20 foot contested fadeaways after no passes on every offensive possesion?

Two possession this game he pushes the ball solo on a 1v5 situation and takes a contested fadeaway midranger before some of his teammates are even over halfcourt.

This happens every game.

 

[Tince]

This is true. Our bench players suck ass.

Tonight... your post would still be overrating them!

 

[AldoTrapani]

This is true. Our bench players suck ass.

Yup! I still don’t see what the fuck is the fascination this organization has with Ant. He’s literally the worst player in the NBA if he doesn’t hit 3s. He does nothing else for you..

 

[MickZagger]

Yup! I still don’t see what the fuck is the fascination this organization has with Ant. He’s literally the worst player in the NBA if he doesn’t hit 3s. He does nothing else for you..

He’s the same age Lillard was his junior year in the big Sky conference. He’s shown enough glimpses to me, Tripiani.

 

[stampedehero]

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[stampedehero]

Brooklyn Nets are most hated for me.

I know. You still wish they were the NJ Nets. haha

 

[James lamphear]

Stotts still don’t know how to adjust when teams double team Dame from half court. We need a Draymond Green to free up Dame for open shots

Well only Stotts not adjusting neither is Dame adjusting. Dame was looking for his shot all night long for that reason nobody is in the flow of the game. All seen last night was one man dribbling the basketball and trying to get shot up and not just Dame you got Hood and Melo and Trent and Simons there know flow to the offense I blamed that on the head coach. There playing pickup ball at the YMCA. Now defense they don't rebound the Lakers 14 offense rebounds and most of them was put back and in and there no interior defense at all I got admitted the 3 point defense is getting better but now every team scoring big time in the paint. Now our guards can't guard a lick Dame and Trent neither could stay in front of there man last night. Someone mentioned Kanter that he don't pickup hardly any and Zach would have foul out. Let me give you clue Kanter don't contest anything out there around the rim and Zach would try to contest everything by the rim but you don't realize Zach picks up fouls and sometimes stupid fouls but he hardly fouls out. I am sorry this when they won those 6 straight games they played has a team right now it's jugguar fuck on both ends.

 

[kjironman1]

It won’t help much trust me. He was looking terrible before he got injured

This clown show thinks getting another 7 footer on the court won't help.

Well at least he has his basketball shoes on.

 

[James lamphear]

Caruso is criminally underrated by some folks

The guy plays hard sometimes you need to take the stats throwing them out the window.

 

[James lamphear]

This has been noticable to me as well. Obviously having one guy on the roster over 6'7" doesn't help.

You know I see we got guys only 6'7 and only one 7 footer. Here my thoughts about majority of the players can dunk in this league so that's mean everyone can at least touch the rim. But here's two things you must have to be a decent rebounder one you must put a body on someone by blocking him out and two you must want it more then the other guy. I see Kanter rebounding but majority of the time I don't see covington or Jones big rebounding stats up on nightly basis and Trent is terrible rebounder for a 2 guard and last it's team effort to collect the defense rebounds. Giving up 14 offense rebounds and 1 was off a damn free throw is not a good look for this team.

 

[PCmor7]

The guy plays hard sometimes you need to take the stats throwing them out the window.

Put Caruso on any average team and does anyone even know who he is? If he doesn't play in LA, does anyone know who Caruso is? TBH, I think Pat Connaughton is better. Either way, both players are easily replaceable. He fills a very limited role on a very good team, but for gosh sakes he's not underrated. He's a guy. Put him in the right situation, he'll be OK. Put him on the Thunder and he's bouncing around the league and playing 8 years in China.

 

[PCmor7]

Re: The traps

We keep blaming Stotts, and certainly he has to shoulder a lot of that, but, as someone mentioned above, Dame bears responsibility, too.

Really, a top ballhandler sees a trap coming, he beats it before it gets there with the dribble or he passes to a teammate and they either play 4 on 3 or he relocates and gets the ball back and makes something happen while the defense is scrambling. Waiting for 2 long guys to catch you between the sideline and halfcourt and trying to play Superman is prideful and not smart. Do you think Chris Paul would let that happen? Dame's a better player than Chris Paul, and that's saying something because Chris Paul's record of work speaks for itself. But Chris Paul plays smarter than Dame in the way he lets the game come to him. He doesn't need the ball in his hands all the time. He doesn't need to make flashy passes. He doesn't have to make highlight plays on every pick and roll. He only does what he has to do to get his team a good shot. It's a big part of why he's survived this long.

Dame's great, but the issue with the traps is something he should have learned to deal with by now.

 

[kjironman1]

Put him on the Thunder and he's bouncing around the league and playing 8 years in China.

Still might end up there. But you have to admit he does bring energy and works hard every night.

 

[kjironman1]

Re: The traps

We keep blaming Stotts, and certainly he has to shoulder a lot of that, but, as someone mentioned above, Dame bears responsibility, too.

Really, a top ballhandler sees a trap coming, he beats it before it gets there with the dribble or he passes to a teammate and they either play 4 on 3 or he relocates and gets the ball back and makes something happen while the defense is scrambling. Waiting for 2 long guys to catch you between the sideline and halfcourt and trying to play Superman is prideful and not smart. Do you think Chris Paul would let that happen? Dame's a better player than Chris Paul, and that's saying something because Chris Paul's record of work speaks for itself. But Chris Paul plays smarter than Dame in the way he lets the game come to him. He doesn't need the ball in his hands all the time. He doesn't need to make flashy passes. He doesn't have to make highlight plays on every pick and roll. He only does what he has to do to get his team a good shot. It's a big part of why he's survived this long.

Dame's great, but the issue with the traps is something he should have learned to deal with by now.

I agree with this take as well.
Dame needs to set up faster and move the ball a bit quicker. I was thinking on multiple possessions last night he could push up the court quicker and get the ball moving. You can even see Stotts at times waving his arms to get them down the court quicker. This whole crossing mid court at the 17-18 seconds on the shot clock isn't good at all. He tried passing long but of course on both occasions LeBron was sitting there looking for it.