Game Thread GAME# 34: 76ERS @ BLAZERS - DECEMBER 28, 2017 - THURSDAY, 7:30 PM (PST), TNT

[Mr. Robot]

Embellish is a better word for what Nurk does, because I’ve never seen him try to fool a ref. He actually does get hit and makes sure the refs see it. I don’t see anything wrong with it. He’s not cheating the game. It’s really no different than taking a charge.

thats what Im saying, hes theatrical a lot, but not a flopper... he sells the contact extremely well, but contact is always there
hes just being smart, not soft, flopper or whatever

 

[BBert]

Honest question most people wont think is an honest question......So did the refs cost Philly the game?

In the sense that the refs pissed off Nurkic when they called a foul on his nose for colliding with Redick's teeth, and then let him play physical with 5 fouls, perhaps.

In the sense that the refs called a lot of fouls instead of swallowing their whistles, perhaps. Although, to me that's on the team that chose the strategy of fouling every time down the court, not the refs who chose to do their jobs.

I thought they might cost the Blazers the game when they didn't call the foul on the in-bounds under the basket, when CJ was obviously held and couldn't get to the pass, resulting in a turnover. Those things usually, but not always, balance out. I didn't see one team getting much of a ref advantage overall.

So, I'm going with no

 

[THE HCP]

Man! What’s a bunch of up and down, bi-polar, ON the bandwagon OFF the bandwagon mothafuckas up in here. Some should go read your posts when the team was down big........ how do you get so negative about your “favorite” team? It just baffles me. EVERY time!! It’s like you have no faith in these guys. This place is going bananas right in front of my eyes.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I wouldnt do that deal if I were Phila GM/owner, no way whatsoever... they are in the rebouilding process and I say roll the dice for the couple of years and see how team develops, in that time, Saric value will become higher than it is right now cause he is sure thing and when it comes to Fultz, well he practically didnt play this season, so its hard to tell if hes gonna develop as they expect etc

they gain absolutely nothing by adding CJ while sending Fultz & Saric away... they should trust the process for couple of years and see how it goes, if it doesnt work, then do some trades, shake things a bit... Embiid and Simmons are clearly untouchable on that team, both now and in the future, but when it comes to Fultz, Saric, Covington, they all are valuable assets and I believe they will be available in the future if things doesnt work as expected, or just to get better player(s) by moving them

and I dont know Phila cap situation, can they afford big contracts as of now, but you can see their roster is filled with talent and veterans, so CJ doesnt make sense for them, other than being a bad deal..

Assuming that they don't sign LBJ in the offseason, I absolutely agree.... but, I'm not sure whether they will or not.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Honest question most people wont think is an honest question......So did the refs cost Philly the game?

Honest question for you.....So did you actually watch the game?

BNM

 

[riverman]

Fuck. Every fucking time. Every fucking time I fall asleep on the damn couch the Blazers come back to win & I miss it.

If they televised every game on days when I am really tired, they'd never lose.

you need to start drinking Sleepytime tea and listening to old Sade albums for every fourth qtr!

 

[RR7]

https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/12...t-joel-embiid-blazers-vs-sixers-flagrant-foul

Saw this on RealGM, Nurk praising Embiid, while taking shots at him. They linked to BlazersEdge, which reminded me why I never go there. I understand not everything has to be ultra homer, even on a fan site. It's best for it not to be. But in writing an article on Nurk's "trash talking" after the game, Dave doesn't once include any of the quote in text, and then describes the matchup as such:

Portland’s center scored 21 points on 39% shooting from the field against Embiid and the Sixers, accumulating 12 rebounds and 5 personal fouls. Embiid scored 29 on 43% shooting, 50% (6-12) from the three-point arc as Blazers bigs, including Nurkic, were unwilling or unable to chase him to that range. Embiid picked up 4 personal fouls, including a fourth-quarter Flagrant 1 after skillfully applying a skillful nudge which somehow sent Nurkic careening across the floor as if he had been felled by an oncoming train.

Just comes across to me like going out of the way to mock Nurk, and praise Embiid.

 

[BBert]

https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/12...t-joel-embiid-blazers-vs-sixers-flagrant-foul

Saw this on RealGM, Nurk praising Embiid, while taking shots at him. They linked to BlazersEdge, which reminded me why I never go there. I understand not everything has to be ultra homer, even on a fan site. It's best for it not to be. But in writing an article on Nurk's "trash talking" after the game, Dave doesn't once include any of the quote in text, and then describes the matchup as such:

Just comes across to me like going out of the way to mock Nurk, and praise Embiid.

"skillfully applying a skillful nudge" LMFAO

His forearm shiver was so skillfully applied, that it resulted in a Flagrant 1. That's some skill.

What a maroon. What an embezzle.

"blazersedge" LOL

 

[Boob-No-More]

Honest question for you.....So did you actually watch the game?

BNM

If you had watched the game the reason for the FT disparity would have been obvious.

If you didn't watch the game, here are the shot charts for Joel Embiid and Jusuf Nurkic:

Without knowing which is which, which player would you think likely to draw more fouls - they guy who took 15 shots outside of the paint and spent considerable time camped out beyond the 3-point arc, or the guy who took almost all of his shots from within the restricted area?

Obviously, that's Embiid on the left and Nurkic on the right. Given where they were attempting their shots, do you find it surprising that Nurkic attempted twice as many FTs (16 vs. 8) as Embiid? I don't. Guys who attack the rim draw more fouls than guys launching 3-pointers - regardless of the uniform on their back.

For the entire game, Nurkic only attempted two shots outside of the restricted area (and one of those was a buzzer beating half court heave). Of course he drew more fouls than the 7' Steph Curry wannabe.

And Embiid is PHI's most physical player, and last night, was their only player even trying to score in the paint. Although C.J. gets criticized for his ISO mentality, he was constantly driving and attacking the PHI defense. J.J. Redick was doing his usual coming of screens for quick hit jumpers, Two totally different styles of play. C.J.'s penetration is likely to draw a lot more fouls than Redick's jump shots.

If you didn't even bother to watch the game, you really have no legitimate frame of reference to judge the response of anyone who did. If you did watch the game, you probably wouldn't have asked the question. You'd already know the answer.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

Honest question for you.....So did you actually watch the game?

BNM

Of course

 

[Boob-No-More]

Of course

Then why did you feel compelled to ask the question.? You should have seen with your own two eyes that the Blazers, especially Nurk and C.J. (who combined for 30 of the Blazers' 47 FTA) were attacking the basket and PHI was settling for jump shots.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

Then why did you feel compelled to ask the question.? You should have seen with your own two eyes that the Blazers, especially Nurk and C.J. (who combined for 30 of the Blazers' 47 FTA) were attacking the basket and PHI was settling for jump shots.

BNM

I saw all of that. Just like I see when the FT disparity is the other way. My question, was if otger people saw that as well. You and I actually agree here.

 

[THE HCP]

https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/12...t-joel-embiid-blazers-vs-sixers-flagrant-foul

Saw this on RealGM, Nurk praising Embiid, while taking shots at him. They linked to BlazersEdge, which reminded me why I never go there. I understand not everything has to be ultra homer, even on a fan site. It's best for it not to be. But in writing an article on Nurk's "trash talking" after the game, Dave doesn't once include any of the quote in text, and then describes the matchup as such:

Just comes across to me like going out of the way to mock Nurk, and praise Embiid.

What the hell is Blazers Edge?

 

[riverman]

What the hell is Blazers Edge?

It's a figure skating move perfected by Tonya Harding

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's a figure skating move perfected by Tonya Harding

Toe pick

 

[Optimistic Bob]

Nurk, Shabazz, Lillard, Davis, Aminu...... that's my starting 5. CJ, Pat C., Collins, Vonleh and Harkless 2nd team.
I love me some Davis. That guy is always in the right place at the right time and finishes in the paint offence and defense.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I saw all of that. Just like I see when the FT disparity is the other way. My question, was if otger people saw that as well. You and I actually agree here.

I think everyone who watched the game saw that. Even Reggie Miller.

I'm pretty sure most people also see the same things when the FT disparity goes in the opposite direction. Jump shooting teams don't get to the FT line. It's not rocket science and it's not subtle.

It's natural for fans to feel like their team should get more calls, and the bad calls/non-calls that don't go there way tend to stand out on their minds, but in general, most people who watch the games can see with their own eyes why one team is getting more calls than the other.

Nothing new here. Jump shooting teams don't get to the line and fans always want their team to get more calls. Not sure why you insist on making it a point of emphasis.

BNM

 

[SIeepwalker]

Not sure why you insist on making it a point of emphasis.

To be able to remind us daily hourly that S2 posters are blind dumb homers.

 

[Mr. Robot]

lets be honest, we had 46 free throws (CJ 14, Nurk 16), thats crazy, and we were angry cause MIN had 21 free throw against us, Butler alone had 12, POR had 5 and I think even Stotts said something about that MIN game

and yes, referees let Nurk to be physical, he shouldve been fouled out

lets see whats our reaction gonna be when some team has 46 free throws against us

 

[Mediocre Man]

To be able to remind us daily hourly that S2 posters are blind dumb homers.

Not dumb. Just blind homers, or lemmings if you prefer. I would hate to offend anyone.

 

[SIeepwalker]

Not dumb. Just blind homers, or lemmings if you prefer. I would hate to offend anyone.

Yeah, but I think everybody gets it, no need to use 90% of your posts to solely convey this opinion.
A shame because the other 10% are really entertaining

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yeah, but I think everybody gets it, no need to use 90% of your posts to solely convey this opinion.
A shame because the other 10% are really entertaining

You should put me on ignore 90% of the time.

I am a problem solver

 

[DaLincolnJones]

You should put me on ignore 90% of the time.

I am a problem solver

MM, the ability to go against the grain of popular thinking is the reason you would be the last guy I would not pay attention too

 

[Mediocre Man]

MM, the ability to go against the grain of popular thinking is the reason you would be the last guy I would not pay attention too

Typical lemming. I disagree

 

[SIeepwalker]

You should put me on ignore 90% of the time.

I am a problem solver

I can try blocking you 9 days out of 10, but How can I make sure I get the good day !

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Typical lemming. I disagree

Actual laugh out loud

 

[Mediocre Man]

I can try blocking you 9 days out of 10, but How can I make sure I get the good day !

If it was easy, everyone would do it. That's what separates champions from lemmings