Game Thread Game #42 - BLAZERS @ WIZARDS - JANUARY 15, 2022 - SATURDAY - 4:00 PM (PDT) ROOT SPORTS

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Should the Blazers keep sitting CJ, Powell, and Nance when they get healthy?

  • Yes, tank speed ahead

    Votes: 11 28.9%

  • No, never go full tank

    Votes: 12 31.6%

  • No reason to

    Votes: 9 23.7%

  • We will lose anyway

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Total voters
    38
What did we won? A basketball game - Michael Holton
 
FWIW, Blazers pass Kings tonight, and are now in sole possession of 10th place - we're in play-in position.
 
anfernee simons is much more enjoyable to watch than cj mccollum

get cj mccollum & powell outta here
 
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If only we could bottle that second half for future tanking.
 
simons & nurk seem to have a good chemistry which can become even better

makes you wonder if we keep both simons & nurk, along with dame, how would that trio look in the starting unit
 
GrandpaBlaze said:
I hope the front office is realizing how utterly expendable McCollum has become. Ant playing better, appears to have a more complete game, younger, cheaper.

I’d just rather not have to watch CJ again (unless he is playing for another team).
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The whole league is also seeing how expendable CJ is. Not the best time to trade him unless he balls out before the deadline in 3 weeks.
 
illmatic99 said:
The whole league is also seeing how expendable CJ is. Not the best time to trade him unless he balls out before the deadline in 3 weeks.
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They're only seeing that he's expendable because Ant is so good not because CJ is so bad. Look at the dude's numbers... he's one of the best bucket getters in the league. There are only a couple of national reporters who think CJ is a negative trade asset and even they say that he's seen that way by only a few GMs. The fact is that we can get good value back for CJ, we just can't get the value back that Olshey was demanding, which is just fine. Trade CJ for a piece that fits better, package CJ with other assets to get a star player but for sure you've got to trade the guy.

My issue is Ant. I think he's CJ 2.0 and him and Dame would have very similar problems to those that have plagued us with the Dame/CJ back court. I think unless someone blows us away with an offer for Ant that we keep him here and re-sign him in the off season. If my suspicions are correct and he's not a good match for Dame then we get fair value for him after featuring him for a bit next season.
 
Scalma said:
remember when some people were saying he was only good cuz of Dame

btw billups singled him out in the post game presser. Every time he talks about Nurk it sounds like he’s a big supporter of him and his game.
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It's criminal how many Blazers fans underrate this guy. Ungrateful. Nurk stays engaged when he's actually a part of the offense. Ant gets him involved.
 
AmirIcon said:
It's criminal how many Blazers fans underrate this guy. Ungrateful. Nurk stays engaged when he's actually a part of the offense. Ant gets him involved.
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yeah billups was saying they’re playing thru nurk more without dame and CJ and a lot of times they throw it down to him and the play isn’t even for him it’s just so he can facilitate. He makes so many good reads, he would’ve had a triple double last game had anyone knocked down some shots and it was a closer game.
 
as someone who really likes nurk, since dame & cj mccollum have been out, his scoring has been a flip coin, some games he looked good and then some games he looked bad (im speaking about scoring only), but i guess that was to be expected, he doesnt have offense on his own, as his low post game is neither good or bad, sometimes he will make a good move and finish nicely, sometimes he will throw the ball and it will look ugly, but it will go in and sometimes he will throw the ball and it will be a brick, he just isnt consistent and while he can hit the mid range shot, its not something hes really good at and btw, hes not shooting them anymore, instead he shoots threes, which are not falling as of now (i guess its still work in progress)

he depends a lot on the playmaker and a two man game, pnr is where he excels and they should run more of that with dame out, both ant & cj mccollum can do it

maybe nurk wants to re-sign with the blazers, we all know he found his second home there, he likes the franchise, the fans, the city of portland, the oregon, he likes playing for chauncey billups, but, he for sure wants to get a big contract and my assumption is that he will sign for the highest bidder, otherwise why would he hire rich paul as his agent, he couldve just stay with the former one, but he obviously didnt like the previous contract

that being said, it remains to see if the blazers want to re-sign him (maybe im wrong, but blazers can go over the cap to re-sign him, using his bird rights), but my guess is that if he doesnt get traded by the deadline, blazers will want to re-sign him, otherwise they should just trade him for whatever they can get, cause were not gonna do anything in the playoffs if we get there (were probably lose in the play-in if we get there), so we should have a better picture after february 10th
 
Scalma said:
yeah billups was saying they’re playing thru nurk more without dame and CJ and a lot of times they throw it down to him and the play isn’t even for him it’s just so he can facilitate. He makes so many good reads, he would’ve had a triple double last game had anyone knocked down some shots and it was a closer game.
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Under Stotts, we were always better when the ball was going through Nurk. I screamed it at the top of my lungs for years, but Terry and many fans didn't listen. We're seeing more of it now with great results. There aren't too many centers better than Nurk.
 
Mr. Robot said:
as someone who really likes nurk, since dame & cj mccollum have been out, his scoring has been a flip coin, some games he looked good and then some games he looked bad (im speaking about scoring only), but i guess that was to be expected, he doesnt have offense on his own, as his low post game is neither good or bad, sometimes he will make a good move and finish nicely, sometimes he will throw the ball and it will look ugly, but it will go in and sometimes he will throw the ball and it will be a brick, he just isnt consistent and while he can hit the mid range shot, its not something hes really good at and btw, hes not shooting them anymore, instead he shoots threes, which are not falling as of now (i guess its still work in progress)

he depends a lot on the playmaker and a two man game, pnr is where he excels and they should run more of that with dame out, both ant & cj mccollum can do it

maybe nurk wants to re-sign with the blazers, we all know he found his second home there, he likes the franchise, the fans, the city of portland, the oregon, he likes playing for chauncey billups, but, he for sure wants to get a big contract and my assumption is that he will sign for the highest bidder, otherwise why would he hire rich paul as his agent, he couldve just stay with the former one, but he obviously didnt like the previous contract

that being said, it remains to see if the blazers want to re-sign him (maybe im wrong, but blazers can go over the cap to re-sign him, using his bird rights), but my guess is that if he doesnt get traded by the deadline, blazers will want to re-sign him, otherwise they should just trade him for whatever they can get, cause were not gonna do anything in the playoffs if we get there (were probably lose in the play-in if we get there), so we should have a better picture after february 10th
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They could very well keep Nurk and end up trading Nance, Roco and Norm ..this is a tough season to read but I know Nurk is a valuable piece to a contender and Dame absolutely loves playing with him. They just need a dynamic PF next to him and it would be a huge upgrade...
 
AmirIcon said:
It's criminal how many Blazers fans underrate this guy. Ungrateful. Nurk stays engaged when he's actually a part of the offense. Ant gets him involved.
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its always been like this, how many times has nurk spoken about "iso offense", he doesnt like it, he wants everyone to get touches, hes from europe and its different bball here, as good as you are, youre just one of the players on the team, team comes first and after all, its a team sport... when everyone gets the touches, everyones happy and everyone will give their best effort and atmosphere will be better and chemistry will be better

when you have dame & cj mccollum as two dominant scorers, others will look to get theirs too, powell wont pass the ball and neither will simons and thats a big problem... we need to get rid of two of them (hopefully cj mccollum & powell) and as i said in this game thread, simons & nurk are developing a chemistry and dame & nurk already have a great chemistry and thats good for the team, its looks like three of them would be a good fit together

fit & chemistry matter a lot, hopefully joe cronin builds a team like that, we should follow the steps of the phoenix susn & utah jazz or even chicago bulls (their new front office changed the situation very quickly)
 
Has CJ ever had a run like the one Simons is having as the main man? I know he elevated his game but I don’t remember him getting 7+ assists every night. Might look it up actually.
 
riverman said:
They could very well keep Nurk and end up trading Nance, Roco and Norm ..this is a tough season to read but I know Nurk is a valuable piece to a contender and Dame absolutely loves playing with him. They just need a dynamic PF next to him and it would be a huge upgrade...
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If no Ben Simmons, Pascal Siakam would be an incredible fit as I've always said. Not sure if Toronto plans on moving him though. Would probably need to be a three-way deal to get Toronto something young with CJ and change going out. CJ and change to Indiana, Sabas to Toronto, Siakam to Portland? Sounds sexy to me. Let them know.
 
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