Game Thread GAME# 45: BLAZERS @ KINGS - JANUARY 14, 2019 - MONDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW (1 Viewer)

[twobullz]

Are you familiar with the notion of sticking with the hot hand? Nobody is saying Jake is a super-star....but he is capable of getting hot. The issue is why Stotts is so reluctant to to take advantage of what he does well. Stotts just doesn't adapt on the fly.

You are right. We should have been riding Meyers. He was the best shooter on the team tonight. Any team in the league would be happy if the blazers tried to ride Jake to a win, but he can't do it.

 

[TBpup]

Are you familiar with the notion of sticking with the hot hand? Nobody is saying Jake is a super-star....but he is capable of getting hot. The issue is why Stotts is so reluctant to to take advantage of what he does well. Stotts just doesn't adapt on the fly.

This!

 

[Labinot41]

HAHAHAHAHA

 

[42N8Bounce]

Just posted this in the 'Bashing CJ thread', but thought it also applies here -

CJ had a tough night, and is having a bit of a down year. But how good is he compared to other teams number 2 scoring option?

Here's a look at each team's number 2 scoring option, ranked by points-per-game and eFG%:



Yes, I know there are many ways to rank players. But I'm simply looking at the scoring efficiency of each team's number 2 option. Defense of course isn't take into account. Contracts aren't taken into account. Simply scoring productivity and efficiency.

We all expect a lot out of CJ. He's got a big contract to live up to. And yes, he's having a down year. But looking at the league wide picture, I think CJ stacks up pretty good for the role that he's in.

 

[hoopsjock]

Completely agreed that although Olshey f***d up the most, he wasn't the only offender and there will be a lot of other bad contracts that are ending.

As for a 20's Draft pick, they haven't been great and I don't think that should get in the way of a trade....but at the same time, there has been value in the 20's. We just haven't been the recipient of it.

2009: Victor Claver....picked just ahead of Casspi, Taj Gibson and DeMarre Carroll.
2010: Elliot Williams...not much right after. Damian Jones, Jordan Crawford....and Hassan Whiteside and Lance Stephenson early in the 2nd.
2011: Nolan Smith...this gets ugly. Farid, Mirotic, Reggie Jackson, Cory Joseph...and Jimmy Butler right after Smith.
2017: Caleb Swanigan...just ahead of Kumza and not far ahead of Josh Hart.
2018: Anfernee Simons....Landry Shamet selected 2 picks later.

Damn, the whole 'at least Olshey is good at the Draft' is not exactly full of merit recently.

Only two of those were Olshey though and the last one you can't really call Simons a bad pick yet.

 

[ripcityboy]

Weird Stat: Portland still hasn't won a game all year while trailing after 3 quarters. (0-19) I know I've seen that before in here but it's still troubling we haven't ended the trend.

 

[BonesJones]

Just posted this in the 'Bashing CJ thread', but thought it also applies here -

CJ had a tough night, and is having a bit of a down year. But how good is he compared to other teams number 2 scoring option?

Here's a look at each team's number 2 scoring option, ranked by points-per-game and eFG%:

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Yes, I know there are many ways to rank players. But I'm simply looking at the scoring efficiency of each team's number 2 option. Defense of course isn't take into account. Contracts aren't taken into account. Simply scoring productivity and efficiency.

We all expect a lot out of CJ. He's got a big contract to live up to. And yes, he's having a down year. But looking at the league wide picture, I think CJ stacks up pretty good for the role that he's in.

TS% > EFG%

 

[BonesJones]

Wheres KJ?!?!?!?!

 

[jlprk]

Tonight Giles was notably excellent at offense and Jackson at defense. So I have just voted in the above poll for them. Collins sucked.

 

[TBpup]

Only two of those were Olshey though and the last one you can't really call Simons a bad pick yet.

Which is why my post included the word "recently" and. does not apply to drafts from many years ago.

 

[James lamphear]

Shooting 11-15 for .733 in the last 2 games and one of misses was a dunk.

On the other side, 9-33 for .272 for MeJ in the last 2 games.

Call me crazy, but couldn't a few of MeJ's shots gone to Jake?

I always say go to the hot hand and the 2 that was hot was Dame and Layman.

 

[kjironman1]

Wheres KJ?!?!?!?!

Reading a thread with over 600 posts dominated by 3 or 4 posters that think they know more than people who actually do a job that the posters have never even sniffed.
You are just comical with your "Advanced" knowledge of basketball.

It's a game dude. Tagging me to your posts and calling me out by name points to the fact that people can live in your head a little too easily if they don't agree with your take on everything.

The Blazers are 26-19 and currently 5th in the Western Conference. This from a team that no one anywhere thinks has a chance to win a Championship. That seems about as good as it will get. If the Blazers beat all predictions and win 50 games it still won't be enough for you or the others like you on this thread. Seriously if they end up with 32 losses we are going to have to read a thread 13 more times dominated by you telling us all how you could coach the Blazers better than Stotts. It seems like a sad existence at best dude. If they only win 48 games then it will be 15 more threads.

One thing that even seems funnier is you claiming that Stotts only does what YOU suggest when they win. It's comical at best.

What's even worse is this forum used to be a group of people that would like to get together in a suite and watch a game. @SlyPokerDog used to work hard putting together opportunities for us to all come together. That seems strangely absent this year. Think about that will ya?

 

[BonesJones]

Reading a thread with over 600 posts dominated by 3 or 4 posters that think they know more than people who actually do a job that the posters have never even sniffed.
You are just comical with your "Advanced" knowledge of basketball.

It's a game dude. Tagging me to your posts and calling me out by name points to the fact that people can live in your head a little too easily if they don't agree with your take on everything.

The Blazers are 26-19 and currently 5th in the Western Conference. This from a team that no one anywhere thinks has a chance to win a Championship. That seems about as good as it will get. If the Blazers beat all predictions and win 50 games it still won't be enough for you or the others like you on this thread. Seriously if they end up with 32 losses we are going to have to read a thread 13 more times dominated by you telling us all how you could coach the Blazers better than Stotts. It seems like a sad existence at best dude. If they only win 48 games then it will be 15 more threads.

One thing that even seems funnier is you claiming that Stotts only does what YOU suggest when they win. It's comical at best.

What's even worse is this forum used to be a group of people that would like to get together in a suite and watch a game. @SlyPokerDog used to work hard putting together opportunities for us to all come together. That seems strangely absent this year. Think about that will ya?

Let's go down the check list, shall we?
- "Stotts is a coach and you're not" - CHECK
- Blindly defending Stotts - CHECK
- Insinuating that this team has a lack of talent - CHECK
- Unable to discuss basketball while bashing on those who are - CHECK
- Falsely attributing the result of a game to Stotts making mistakes - CHECK
- Claiming someone said something without actually quoting it - CHECK
- Using the 4th grade level insult of "No one wants to watch a game with you" - CHECK
- Falsely insinuating that I'm to blame for us not getting opportunities to come together (even though we had one earlier this year) - CHECK
- Falsely insinuating that people had a bad time watching the game with me in said skybox - CHECK
- Falsely insinuating things on the forum carry out the exact same way off of it - CHECK
- Hypocritically claiming that I can't handle when people disagree with me - CHECK
- Falsely claiming you "live in my head" while ironically doing everything on this list - CHECK

All because I don't like Stotts coaching and said "Where's KJ?!" as a joke. Thanks for falling into my trap that I didn't even mean to set!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

@BonesJones, @kjironman1--c'mon, seriously? I don't want to have to edit posts this early in the morning...

 

[kjironman1]

Let's go down the check list, shall we?
- "Stotts is a coach and you're not" - CHECK
- Blindly defending Stotts - CHECK
- Insinuating that this team has a lack of talent - CHECK
- Unable to discuss basketball while bashing on those who are - CHECK
- Falsely attributing the result of a game to Stotts making mistakes - CHECK
- Claiming someone said something without actually quoting it - CHECK
- Using the 4th grade level insult of "No one wants to watch a game with you" - CHECK
- Falsely insinuating that I'm to blame for us not getting opportunities to come together (even though we had one earlier this year) - CHECK
- Falsely insinuating that people had a bad time watching the game with me in said skybox - CHECK
- Falsely insinuating things on the forum carry out the exact same way off of it - CHECK
- Hypocritically claiming that I can't handle when people disagree with me - CHECK
- Falsely claiming you "live in my head" while ironically doing everything on this list - CHECK

All because I don't like Stotts coaching and said "Where's KJ?!" as a joke. Thanks for falling into my trap that I didn't even mean to set!

Boy that didn't take long. Have a nice day.

 

[kjironman1]

@BonesJones, @kjironman1--c'mon, seriously? I don't want to have to edit posts this early in the morning...

I have to go to work and then i have a huge meeting in Salem this evening on what is the largest job this state has ever had. You are safe here. I'm done reading the thread.

 

[SwissBlazer]

I have to go to work and then i have a huge meeting in Salem this evening on what is the largest job this state has ever had. You are safe here. I'm done reading the thread.

Good luck. You replace NeO?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I have to go to work and then i have a huge meeting in Salem this evening on what is the largest job this state has ever had. You are safe here. I'm done reading the thread.

Good luck in your meeting. Hope it goes well.

 

[BonesJones]

Boy that didn't take long. Have a nice day.

Easy W.

 

[Chris Craig]

Weird Stat: Portland still hasn't won a game all year while trailing after 3 quarters. (0-19) I know I've seen that before in here but it's still troubling we haven't ended the trend.

The Wizards had the same streak some seasons back. It ended when they won the 42 game after trailing in the third. The Blazers have surpassed that and are at 45 games going strong. It can't last all season can it?

 

[illmatic99]

Just posted this in the 'Bashing CJ thread', but thought it also applies here -

CJ had a tough night, and is having a bit of a down year. But how good is he compared to other teams number 2 scoring option?

Here's a look at each team's number 2 scoring option, ranked by points-per-game and eFG%:

View attachment 24275

Yes, I know there are many ways to rank players. But I'm simply looking at the scoring efficiency of each team's number 2 option. Defense of course isn't take into account. Contracts aren't taken into account. Simply scoring productivity and efficiency.

We all expect a lot out of CJ. He's got a big contract to live up to. And yes, he's having a down year. But looking at the league wide picture, I think CJ stacks up pretty good for the role that he's in.

This is terrific work. And a great way to show CJ's usefulness. Unfortunately, we live in a time when everyone values PER more than ppg.

 

[Chris Craig]

Reading a thread with over 600 posts dominated by 3 or 4 posters that think they know more than people who actually do a job that the posters have never even sniffed.
You are just comical with your "Advanced" knowledge of basketball.

It's a game dude. Tagging me to your posts and calling me out by name points to the fact that people can live in your head a little too easily if they don't agree with your take on everything.

The Blazers are 26-19 and currently 5th in the Western Conference. This from a team that no one anywhere thinks has a chance to win a Championship. That seems about as good as it will get. If the Blazers beat all predictions and win 50 games it still won't be enough for you or the others like you on this thread. Seriously if they end up with 32 losses we are going to have to read a thread 13 more times dominated by you telling us all how you could coach the Blazers better than Stotts. It seems like a sad existence at best dude. If they only win 48 games then it will be 15 more threads.

One thing that even seems funnier is you claiming that Stotts only does what YOU suggest when they win. It's comical at best.

What's even worse is this forum used to be a group of people that would like to get together in a suite and watch a game. @SlyPokerDog used to work hard putting together opportunities for us to all come together. That seems strangely absent this year. Think about that will ya?

Everyone is welcome to their opnions. If you don't like certain peoples opinions don't read their posts. Put them on ignore.

If you feel you are being tagged and being unfairly called out and instigated let a mod know. It will be looked into.

There are a lot of passionate fans here who get upset when the Blazers continously underperform. Yeah the Blazers are 26-19. They should have a better record than that. Looking back there is up to 10 games they could have won, but didn't. People are upset about it. And, that is ok. The Blazers have little chance to win a championship, and their play continues to be mediocre. It can be incredibly stressfull at times to be a fan.

@SlyPokerDog just put together a Skybox game earlier this season. We have had interviews with Harry Glickman and a live one with Kerry Eggers. We were doing one with Larry Weinberg before he passed. I am sure there will be more things to come before the season is over. Those oppurtunities have not been absent.

 

[ripcityboy]

The Wizards had the same streak some seasons back. It ended when they won the 42 game after trailing in the third. The Blazers have surpassed that and are at 45 games going strong. It can't last all season can it?

It's funny. The team the Blazers always get compared to onlne is the Wizards.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

What's even worse is this forum used to be a group of people that would like to get together in a suite and watch a game. @SlyPokerDog used to work hard putting together opportunities for us to all come together. That seems strangely absent this year. Think about that will ya?

Sorry, I will try.

 

[Strenuus]

Do or die moments? We’ve won 3 straight OT games, 2 on the road.

*looks at recent playoffs*

 

[Strenuus]

Let's go down the check list, shall we?
- "Stotts is a coach and you're not" - CHECK
- Blindly defending Stotts - CHECK
- Insinuating that this team has a lack of talent - CHECK
- Unable to discuss basketball while bashing on those who are - CHECK
- Falsely attributing the result of a game to Stotts making mistakes - CHECK
- Claiming someone said something without actually quoting it - CHECK
- Using the 4th grade level insult of "No one wants to watch a game with you" - CHECK
- Falsely insinuating that I'm to blame for us not getting opportunities to come together (even though we had one earlier this year) - CHECK
- Falsely insinuating that people had a bad time watching the game with me in said skybox - CHECK
- Falsely insinuating things on the forum carry out the exact same way off of it - CHECK
- Hypocritically claiming that I can't handle when people disagree with me - CHECK
- Falsely claiming you "live in my head" while ironically doing everything on this list - CHECK

All because I don't like Stotts coaching and said "Where's KJ?!" as a joke. Thanks for falling into my trap that I didn't even mean to set!

Man, who put your flip-flops in the fridge?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Man, who put your flip-flops in the fridge?

That is a new phrase for me. I like it.

 

[hoopsjock]

That is a new phrase for me. I like it.

"Someone" (wasn't me) literally put Bones' flip flops in the fridge at the sky box game.

 

[blazerboy30]

Are you familiar with the notion of sticking with the hot hand? Nobody is saying Jake is a super-star....but he is capable of getting hot. The issue is why Stotts is so reluctant to to take advantage of what he does well. Stotts just doesn't adapt on the fly.

There is no such thing as "getting hot". This "notion" has been statistically disproved many times.

But by all means, continue using a made up term as a reason to bash the coaching.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

There is no such thing as "getting hot". This "notion" has been statistically disproved many times.

But by all means, continue using a made up term as a reason to bash the coaching.

Some things defy statistical analysis. If you've ever experienced "the zone", you know it exists. If not, it's easy to disavow.