Game Thread GAME# 57: NETS @ BLAZERS - FEBRUARY 23, 2016 - TUESDAY, 7:00 PM (PST), KGW & NBATV (1 Viewer)

[WillG]

Was in attendance tonight ... Here are some game thoughts . . .
. . . - Botton line: A win is a win but these past two games are worrisome in terms of our pick and roll defense.

Fully agree. And a lackadaisical effort mid-game from the guys this game was disappointing to see.

The other worrisome aspect I have noticed is our tendency to give up position off of the ball.
Opponents are allowed to just waltz into the lane and establish position close to the rim.
Our defense needs to push opponents away from the rim - 'Own their space on the court, and protect the rim'.
(THIS JUST IN: 'it's harder to put that orange thing through the hoop the further away you are')

Conversely our offense fluffs around above the three point line, running the weave - not pressuring the opponents defense and gaining position closer to the rim - for an easier shot.

 

[BonesJones]

Talkin Ball talking "trade CJ". Fuck these morons.

What's their reasoning?

 

[BonesJones]

Was in attendance tonight ... Here are some game thoughts:

- It's tough to keep up the intensity for a full 48, which is why I'm not too upset we let Brooklyn creep back in the game
- Lillard and McCollum were simply amazing ... We went 21 years as a franchise without a backcourt duo each scoring 30+ and these two have accomplished the feat in back to back games!
- Our pick and roll defense needs a ton of work ... First we made Shelvin Mack look like an All-Star, now it was Shane Larkin
- Why did we not swarm Brook Lopez like we've done in the past to DeMarcus Cousins? Brook is not known for his passing skills and we don't have a post defender capable of handling him one on one in the post.
- Would it hurt to trap the ball handler on the pick and roll once in a while?
- Botton line: A win is a win but these past two games are worrisome in terms of our pick and roll defense.

Pick n Roll has always been Stotts' achilles heel. And most of the time, he's too stubborn to double.

 

[Sinobas]

What's their reasoning?

I don't think they were really saying to trade him, just brought up the question of whether it would balance the team.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Never understood the whole balance the team if you move your starting SG for say a starting Center thing. You need two guys who can score at least 20+ pts a game. Doesn't matter if those guys are PG and SG or if they are PG and C.

 

[B-Roy]

Never understood the whole balance the team if you move your starting SG for say a starting Center thing. You need two guys who can score at least 20+ pts a game. Doesn't matter if those guys are PG and SG or if they are PG and C.

Only thing I would trade CJ for is an established star that is also a good defender.

PG/Butler/Leonard etc.

But barring a trade demand that will never happen, so I am more than happy keeping CJ.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Only thing I would trade CJ for is an established star that is also a good defender.

PG/Butler/Leonard etc.

But barring a trade demand that will never happen, so I am more than happy keeping CJ.

No doubt. Those 3 would be great. I not saying I wouldn't move CJ. I would for those 3 easily plus Klay comes to mind. They aren't realistic though. And the point was that we would magically be better getting 20 points from another position rather than SG.

 

[rotary111]

Watching the game last night I wondered if Kaman would have slowed Lopez down any. I would have liked to seen it at least for a little while. It's not like Kaman's known for his stellar defense or anything but he also would have made Lopez work a little harder on the defensive side. Maybe Brook picks up a foul or two. Kaman loves that rolling to the hoop pump fake, up and under shot. Maybe he could show the young guys he's still got a little left in the tank rather than just tell them about it in practice.

Or we could go get Brook next year and win the championship.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Watching the game last night I wondered if Kaman would have slowed Lopez down any. I would have liked to seen it at least for a little while. It's not like Kaman's known for his stellar defense or anything but he also would have made Lopez work a little harder on the defensive side. Maybe Brook picks up a foul or two. Kaman loves that rolling to the hoop pump fake, up and under shot. Maybe he could show the young guys he's still got a little left in the tank rather than just tell them about it in practice.

Or we could go get Brook next year and win the championship.

I would rather trade all of our cap space this summer and a 1st round pick to get Brook than to try to give someone like Harrison Barnes max money who might just get matched.

 

[Draco]

Never understood the whole balance the team if you move your starting SG for say a starting Center thing. You need two guys who can score at least 20+ pts a game. Doesn't matter if those guys are PG and SG or if they are PG and C.

I used to think that; but the way the game is now played its best to have primary scoring from guards or wings.

Look at NBA centers who are in the top35 of league scoring. Cousins, Davis, Lopez, Vucevic, Okafor, and Towns. They have scoring averages ranging from 27.3-17.3ppg.

100% of their teams are in the lottery.

 

[blue9]

I used to think that; but the way the game is now played its best to have primary scoring from guards or wings.

Look at NBA centers who are in the top35 of league scoring. Cousins, Davis, Lopez, Vucevic, Okafor, and Towns. They have scoring averages ranging from 27.3-17.3ppg.

100% of their teams are in the lottery.

100% of those rosters suck. I do think Davis is a bit overrated, but I don't blame any of those guys for the lack of team success. Once a good C gets paired with a good TEAM then Cs will be en vogue again. I hope we're the team that's able to bring a Drummond-level talent in to pair with our backcourt.

 

[jlprk]

The last few posts have been about whether we should pursue a star center. This post that was just made is relevant.

http://www.sportstwo.com/posts/3834043/

 

[BBert]

5 in a row...first time since Geoff Petrie

And Petrie did all his scoring without the three point shot.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

And Petrie did all his scoring without the three point shot.

Yeah but the league was still pretty white too lol so that helped

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Yeah but the league was still pretty white too lol so that helped

 

[BlazerCaravan]

And Petrie did all his scoring without the three point shot.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/petrige01/gamelog/1971/?mobile=false

There aren't many stats recorded back then but it looks like he suddenly got to the line a whole bunch more for about a seven game streak.

 

[Sinobas]

Never understood the whole balance the team if you move your starting SG for say a starting Center thing. You need two guys who can score at least 20+ pts a game. Doesn't matter if those guys are PG and SG or if they are PG and C.

Quick said he never bought into the idea that CJ and Dame couldn't co-exist, and that it's a benefit to have two guys that can handle the ball and lead the offense. I think right now they are proving they are effective together.