Game Thread GAME# 61: BLAZERS @ HAWKS - FEBRUARY 29, 2020 - SATURDAY, 4:30, NBCSNW

[hoopsjock]

I don't judge peoples effort because studies have proven we're not good at telling the difference between someone "trying hard" and someone not executing well. Because of this, I've never once said our effort was good or bad tonight, all I commented on was the roster talent, and somehow you took that as me saying our effort was good.

Huh? You responded to my posts about effort changing the goal posts to talent and now are blaming me for doing so?

This isn't the game to have this discussion man.

 

[Tince]

Defensively, people focus too much on "These players suck" and not enough on "Why aren't these shitty players showing any improvement all season long?"

You don't think some individual players have shown improvement on the defensive end this year? I've been impressed with Trents growth on that end. Dame is improving every year. Would have been nice to see Ant get better and CJ improve, I'll give you that.

 

[kjironman1]

Never thought I’d see Portland tank?
Seriously I just never really thought they would do it?

 

[kjironman1]

No need to plea for them to "tank"..
It has officially begun.

It sure seems as though it has.

 

[Tince]

You're right!

The Blazers have given maximum effort tonight.

Shots just aren't falling.

Before this post (where you brought up effort) where did I mention anything about effort?

 

[OneSport3]

Huh? You responded to my posts about effort changing the goal posts to talent and now are blaming me for doing so?

This isn't the game to have this discussion man.

Don’t waste your time with this guy man. His purpose is to troll with semantics.

 

[julius]

Let's hope the Draft gods are on our side for all that shit we went through 44 of the last 50 seasons

ftfy.

 

[blazerfan11]

How is that not a foul by Vince CArter? come on.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Looks as if the Hoopsjock scenario is playing out...

 

[julius]

Never thought I’d see Portland tank?
Seriously I just never really thought they would do it?

you must've missed out on the 03-06 years. That was some ugly oooooogly ball.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Never thought I’d see Portland tank?
Seriously I just never really thought they would do it?

Way too many minutes for The starters if this is a tank job.

 

[kjironman1]

Mario doesn’t even tank right?

 

[Tince]

Don’t waste your time with this guy man. His purpose is to troll with semantics.

That's not true. And me saying that is not true, is not semantics either.

A lot of people disagree with me, but only a couple people think its personal. I never intend to troll anyone or cut them down personally. If I have, it was unintentional.

 

[hoopsjock]

Before this post (where you brought up effort) where did I mention anything about effort?

You responded to KJ's post about the team playing like they had given up asking him if the roster isn't a bottom 5 talented one. Giving up has nothing to do with talent level my man. Then you posted some BS about how if only S2 was out there giving max effort.

It's sad that you'd excuse their effort by saying it's a lack of talent.

 

[BonesJones]

You don't think some individual players have shown improvement on the defensive end this year? I've been impressed with Trents growth on that end. Dame is improving every year. Would have been nice to see Ant get better and CJ improve, I'll give you that.

Trent is the only one, but he said he watched a ton of film by himself... That's the only guy we can point to. That's an indictment of the coaching stuff, because we're making glaring, obvious mental mistakes defensively and haven't seen any improvement on them, at all.

 

[hoopsjock]

Mario doesn’t even tank right?

He was all year but now he becomes Super Mario?

 

[kjironman1]

you must've missed out on the 03-06 years. That was some ugly oooooogly ball.

Afghanistan most of it.

 

[BonesJones]

LMAO. Our defense is so fucking pathetic. I'm so frustrated.

 

[hoopsjock]

Looks as if the Hoopsjock scenario is playing out...

Too bad we only cut it to 10 not 5 until they hit the 2 dagger 3's.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Looks as if the Hoopsjock scenario is playing out...

except we never got closer than 10.

 

[TBpup]

From a 'pride' standpoint, can we try to hold them under 140? Too much to ask?

 

[blazerfan11]

Why do our players run to someone else on the 3-point line when an atlanta player lines up a 3-point shot? boxing out at the 3-point line?

 

[hoopsjock]

Trent is the only one, but he said he watched a ton of film by himself... That's the only guy we can point to. That's an indictment of the coaching stuff, because we're making glaring, obvious mental mistakes defensively and haven't seen any improvement on them, at all.

And not to mention that individual defensive improvement doesn't mean anything if the team defense regresses.

 

[Tince]

Trent is the only one, but he said he watched a ton of film by himself... That's the only guy we can point to. That's an indictment of the coaching stuff, because we're making glaring, obvious mental mistakes defensively and haven't seen any improvement on them, at all.

I agree Trent is the only one that has shown strong signs of improving this season, which is too bad. What examples do we have of players leaving Portland to see the their defense dramatically under new leadership? I'm sure there are some, but I'd assume if anyone could come up with a list, it would be you.

 

[Tince]

And not to mention that individual defensive improvement doesn't mean anything if the team defense regresses.

Great point, I agree with this.

Do we have data that shows the Blazers defensive rating by month over the past few years and if there is a trend that their ranking falls throughout the season?

 

[julius]

Afghanistan most of it.

It was atrocious basketball. Like literally, they started Ha Seung Jin at center for a time.

 

[hoopsjock]

Great point, I agree with this.

Do we have data that shows the Blazers defensive rating by month over the past few years and if there is a trend that their ranking falls throughout the season?

I don't know, why don't you look it up.

 

[TBpup]

Great point, I agree with this.

Do we have data that shows the Blazers defensive rating by month over the past few years and if there is a trend that their ranking falls throughout the season?

Eyeball test: It's much worse when Nurkic is out.

 

[B-Roy]

Sadly called this a loss. Glad I didn’t have time to watch this one.

 

[Labinot41]

I'm already studying lottery prospects in the 10-15 range, shit about to get serious