GAME 7 RANGERS-LIGHTNING -WIN AND PLAY FOR THE CUP (1 Viewer)

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None of my favorite pro teams have won since they won in 94'.lol The Orioles in 83' and Chiefs the year before i was born.
 
I honestly never had a good feeling about this game. Between talk radio and everything else it seemed like there was too much assuming the Rangers would win game seven.
 
Messiah717 said:
I honestly never had a good feeling about this game. Between talk radio and everything else it seemed like there was too much assuming the Rangers would win game seven.
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Totally agree. Past game 7 success really means little. Tampa had nothing to lose and just went back to what worked in gm 5.
 
Ranger71 said:
Totally agree. Past game 7 success really means little. Tampa had nothing to lose and just went back to what worked in gm 5.
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The way the game played out favored Tampa. Going into the third they knew they just need one to likely end the game.
 
Tampa played the best defensive game tonight of any team I saw in playoffs this year. Rangers played right into their hands and were not sharp but sometimes you get outplayed. Give Tampa credit.
 
Disturbed said:
Tampa played the best defensive game tonight of any team I saw in playoffs this year. Rangers played right into their hands and were not sharp but sometimes you get outplayed. Give Tampa credit.
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Tampa without a doubt deserves credit but frankly the Rangers did this in every home game this series. They refused to try and set their own tone on home ice. They allowed Tampa to dictate everything. I knew this team was doomed after how the first two periods played out. It was only a matter of time before Tampa scored and honestly that 1-0 score seemed like 5-0.
 
Messiah717 said:
Tampa without a doubt deserves credit but frankly the Rangers did this in every home game this series. They refused to try and set their own tone on home ice. They allowed Tampa to dictate everything. I knew this team was doomed after how the first two periods played out. It was only a matter of time before Tampa scored and honestly that 1-0 score seemed like 5-0.
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The score was the same but the defensive effort tonight was a lot better by TB then G5. I thought Rangers had tons of chances in G5 in the first 1.5 periods but for some unknown reason played on the perimeter. Then in the 2nd and 3rd they had nothing. They got owned on defense all game by TB tonight from the drop of the puck on. Only thing they did well was win face offs.

It doesn't matter were left with another tough end to a season.
 
This is where a great team wins a game, even coming back down 2 in the 3rd with 18 mins lett.... It was such a disappointment that they couldn't counter TB's gameplan. But 4/7 TB D has been to the Cup, Stralman, Coburn, Carle, Garrison, Hedman (ECF).

AV. Got outcoached and the offense got outplayed.

Chuck, you would agree ... It is what it is 1 year ago today they won game 6... One year from now they could win G6 or 7 for the SCF.... Very disappointed.. The team ran that record and reputation for resiliency 1 game too early IMO... I think they would have beaten Anahiem, coinflip against CHI
 
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It was no different than the lead into game 7 against the Caps where everyone was saying look at the Rangers in game 7, and in elmination games at home. I didn't feel very comfortable into that game 7, and I felt the same into last night. We could win, but we clearly can lose as well. You play with fire and sometimes you will get burned.

And I agree full credit to TB, but to me when you get shutout your last two home games, you go over 140 minutes without scoring at home, and you score 4 goals in 4 home games I can't gush all over TB. That is ridiculous simply put. I am a give the other team credit type of guy, but I am also a look in the mirror type of guy, and when you see those kinds of stats at home in this series you need to look in the mirror a little and say WTF.

My own take is it's a combo. TB played a different style on the road. A pack it in D first style. AND we were tight and too fancy at home. We didn't play with the same us against the world, everything on goal, go hard to the net wreckless attitude at home...that is very clear.

And the PP KILLED us the last two home games...KILLED us. Game 5 was the same as last night. Couple of PP chances where one goal is a HUGE boost and we get NOTHING...not even a sniff. Those are crushers, especially in these types of games. If you get zone time and chances you still can feel okay, but to get NOTHING kills all your MO. Those PP's last night were a disagrace and they killed us and gave TB a lift. We had like 2 shots from way out, and nothing close to a good chance. Real sad.

So now we grind for over 10 months to maybe get back into the playoffs, and maybe try to win a couple of rounds again, and maybe try and make the SCF again. All this on the heels of what we have done the past 2 or 3 seasons...won't be easy after a great record setting season and all the games we have played the past couple of seasons...
 
Yes, you give the other team credit but it's clear the Rangers were looking to play last night's game way too close to the vest. 1 1 shots after two periods told the story and now they can think about that all summer long. Plus, like you mentioned look at those power play chances where they couldn't generate anything either. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about this team last night.
 
They were playing not to make a mistake, and to me that is not the way you want to play a game 7, especially at home and especially as the favorite in the game. That plays right into the road teams hands and right into the underdogs hands. You let them stay in it. You let them get comfortable. That is what a young road team like TB wants.

We needed to come out flying and playing very aggressive, and we did the 100% opposite. The pressure mounts on the fav and home team the longer the game stays 0-0.

I think we should have pressed way more and been much more aggressive right out of the gate. Pushed the play early and put them back on their heels. Instead we played very conservative not to lose or make mistakes hockey, and I don't like that style against this youg team AT ALL. How did it work in game 5? Played right into their hands with that style IMO. Scared in a way, which is shocking for a team with our experience.

We might have been better off if the game was in TB. We played a road style last night, and that plays better on the road. I think that would have been to our advantage.

The great game 7 record I also think was a negative last night. We started to see it against the Caps where we were down 1-0, had to battle back to tie it, and then scored the coin flip winner in OT. That starts to weigh on you and the other team can feed off it also.

Real tough way to end the season...
 
I feel bad for Hank but that first goal was typical of what you get late in a game like that. They toss one towards the net and it finds its way in. He was too deep in the net again which is a little issue he seemed to have at times these playoffs.
 
Should he have stopped the first goal, of course he should have, but I don't hold that against Hank one bit. When you score ZERO and score 4 in 4 home games I just cannot get on the goalie at all.

I think we had the wrong attitude right from the start...I really do. Let's see if the Ducks come out like that tonight, or if as the home team they try and use the energy to go for the kockout blow early, just like they did in game 5 and we didn't do in games 5 or 7. Totally played that the wrong way IMO.

We should have come out 100% different than we did...I truly believe that.
 
They definitely had the wrong attitude. I knew they were losing after the second period.
 
I won't say I thought we'd lose after the 1st or 2nd period, I figured it was a dangerous game playing with fire and flip a coin, but I was "concerned" when we didn't start with any fire or push, I knew that was a bad move. You need to feed off the crowd and energy they give you at the start, otherwise why have home ice and it plays right into the road teams hands and actually becomes a negative for the home team. And then when the PP's were terrible I was concerned as well. At some point that stuff bites you. Is what it is.
 
chuckd3534 said:
I won't say I thought we'd lose after the 1st or 2nd period, I figured it was a dangerous game playing with fire and flip a coin, but I was "concerned" when we didn't start with any fire or push, I knew that was a bad move. You need to feed off the crowd and energy they give you at the start, otherwise why have home ice and it plays right into the road teams hands and actually becomes a negative for the home team. And then when the PP's were terrible I was concerned as well. At some point that stuff bites you. Is what it is.
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They needed a goal in one of the first two periods. Their success is getting on the board first early.
 
Game 4 for McDonagh...pretty impressive:

5/30/15 | 7:21AM: Derek Stepan said that McDonagh showed “tremendous guts” in this series and that “he wanted to be Mac so badly and he just wasn’t able to get there.”

5:55AM: McDonagh broke his foot in Game 4 of this series.

McDonagh was not credited with any blocked shots in Game 4 nor was he credited with being hit.
 
For his sake, and ours, let's hope McD can stay healthy all season next year and get to that Norris level we all believe he can reach.
 
McDonagh has been very banged up the last couple of seasons and that so happened to coincide with long playoff runs. Two shoulders injuries one before last years playoffs and one before this season. The broken foot will heal and be fine so not worried about that. My point is that I don't think he was able to get to the level we expect him to always play at this season. I expect him back stronger next season and ready to have a great year.
 
I agree Mess. We expected it this season, but assuming health I can see next season being the big McD jump from very good to great dman...a top 5-7 type guy in the NHL from maybe top 10-12 guy.

I want to be excited for next season. I like what Miller and Hayes can do with full seasons uner their belts. I want to see CK take another stride. I want to see Yandle with a full training camp. So I want to be excited, but I know how long the road is and how difficult it will be to get back here and after all these runs and games. That is so difficult to do with teams marking you now, and the East getting better, and simple wear and tear.

We'll see...season starts in 4.5 months.
 
chuckd3534 said:
I agree Mess. We expected it this season, but assuming health I can see next season being the big McD jump from very good to great dman...a top 5-7 type guy in the NHL from maybe top 10-12 guy.

I want to be excited for next season. I like what Miller and Hayes can do with full seasons uner their belts. I want to see CK take another stride. I want to see Yandle with a full training camp. So I want to be excited, but I know how long the road is and how difficult it will be to get back here and after all these runs and games do it again. That is so difficult to do with teams marking you now, and the East getting better, and simple wear and tear.

We'll see...season starts in 4.5 months.
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The key to another run Chuck is what kind of leaps the kids make. I mean look at the reality of things this playoff year.

Zucc injured so you got nothing there
Hayes did nothing for the final two rounds
Hags did nothing for the final two rounds
MSL did nothing for the entire playoffs
JT Miller had a great game six but did very little otherwise

That's no easy to overcome.
 
I agree, I said it in the other thread that the forwards really didn't get it done at all.

Even outside of game 6 I think Miller was seen and known out there and played well. I like Miller a lot. I think he can be a 15-16 goal 30-32 point guy for years to come, and add some toughness and physical play as he fills out as well. A very solid 2nd or 3rd line winger. I want to see him and Hayes develop together, that excites me. Those two could form a nice 3rd line base.

Nash and Brass and Zucc 1st line. Step and Kreider form the 2nd line base. Miller and Hayes the 3rd line base. Now fill in the open two spots around them. Maybe one is MSL or Hags, and the other to me should be a top 9 righty shot. Then have Glass/Moore/Lindberg/Fast/Sheppard on the 4th line (Sheppard or Glass I would think).
 
chuckd3534 said:
I agree, I said it in the other thread that the forwards really didn't get it done at all.

Even outside of game 6 I think Miller was seen and known out there and played well. I like Miller a lot. I think he can be a 15-16 goal 30-32 point guy for years to come, and add some toughness and physical play as he fills out as well. A very solid 2nd or 3rd line winger. I want to see him and Hayes develop together, that excites me. Those two could form a nice 3rd line base.

Nash and Brass and Zucc 1st line. Step and Kreider form the 2nd line base. Miller and Hayes the 3rd line base. Now fill in the open two spots around them. Maybe one is MSL or Hags, and the other to me should be a top 9 righty shot. Then have Glass/Moore/Lindberg/Fast/Sheppard on the 4th line (Sheppard or Glass I would think).
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I give Hayes and Miller a pass because I think they mature and become really key players for this team. Guys like Nash and Kreider no longer get a pass. They simply don't bring it every night and that's inexcusable.
 
Totally agree...Kreider needs to bring it most every game and score 30 next season. Nash...not sure what to say. He was better in these playoffs, but really it was 2 games. In 6 of the last 8 games 0 points.

The positive for Nash would be Kreider, Miller, and Hayes getting better and carrying some load in the playoffs which takes some pressure off of Nash to be THE guy. That would help Nash I think.
 
chuckd3534 said:
Totally agree...Kreider needs to bring it most every game and score 30 next season. Nash...not sure what to say. He was better in these playoffs, but really it was 2 games. In 6 of the last 8 games 0 points.

The positive for Nash would be Kreider, Miller, and Hayes getting better and carrying some load in the playoffs which takes some pressure off of Nash to be THE guy. That would help Nash I think.
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This season you saw the Rick Nash you needed for 60 games. Then he took a hit and played tentative for the remainder of the season and the playoffs. I don't think it has anything to do with pressure. It's his tendency to want to play on the perimeter and avoid contact.
 
So he is soft. Either way whether it is not dealing well with the pressure AND/OR being a softer player, it doesn't mesh well with playoff success. That is a concern, and why we need these other guys to really step up. CK, JT, KH, Zucc, Brass to continue, Step, and maybe Hags if he is back.

And I remember that game against Peg when he was hit, and if that is all it took that is really bad for him and us as fans.
 
chuckd3534 said:
So he is soft. Either way whether it is not dealing well with the pressure AND/OR being a softer player, it doesn't mesh well with playoff success. That is a concern, and why we need these other guys to really step up. CK, JT, KH, Zucc, Brass to continue, Step, and maybe Hags if he is back.

And I remember that game against Peg when he was hit, and if that is all it took that is really bad for him and us as fans.
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I don't think it's pressure. What I meant was I think taking a bad hit gets into his head. So more often than not in the playoffs you get the Nash that doesn't go strong to the net or look to get in front. When he does he scores. Why it doesn't happen more often is anyone's guess.
 
I don't disagree, I just think it is sort of all of the above. I think Nash may be too nice. He doesn't play with that fire and passion. Say what you want about Kreider, but when he is on he plays like a train, you don't see that from Nash. Pressure, soft, injury concerned who knows...I think he needs to get a mean streak...too nice IMO.

Nice guys finish last...cannot change who he is, but if Nash had that mean streak I think we'd see a stud in the playoffs as well.
 
chuckd3534 said:
I don't disagree, I just think it is sort of all of the above. I think Nash may be too nice. He doesn't play with that fire and passion. Say what you want about Kreider, but when he is on he plays like a train, you don't see that from Nash. Pressure, soft, injury concerned who knows...I think he needs to get a mean streak...too nice IMO.

Nice guys finish last...cannot change who he is, but if Nash had that mean streak I think we'd see a stud in the playoffs as well.
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I would certainly say you don't see a lot of fire or emotion out of Nash. That being said he has always been the same whether he's scoring 42 in the regular season or struggling in the playoffs. That being said regardless of what some might say you're not trading him. If you do so you might as well give up next season because you're not replacing that production.
 
Agreed on the regular season comment, and that proves the point even more IMO. In the regular season you don't need that mean streak/attitude to score. The games are softer the ice more open, in the playoffs you need it and shocker that's where he struggles.

Nash is not getting dealt...I am not even spending time thinking about it. For SO MANY REASONS I don't see it happening.
 
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