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Nobody else in the NBA has scored at least 37 and 8 2x in a row this season. :ghoti:

Does POTW run Monday - Sunday? If so, Aldridge is currently averaging 39.5 PTS, 9 REB and 2 BLK on 0.604 FG% and 0.808 FT% leading his team to a 2-0 record. If he has a decent game on Sunday, and the Blazers win to finish the week 3-0, I'd say he's practically a shoe in to win the award again.

BNM
 
I saw the replay at the 3:30 mark left in the 3rd when Rudy had the ball and he clearly didn't travel. His basket should have counted.
 
Two words come to mind. Bull and shit.

So, Phil Jackson should get no credit as a coach because he has had Jordan, Pippen, Kobe, and Shaq ...

Has he ever won a championship w/o having a "greatest player of all time/generation" on his team? The Lakers are a great example of player talent trumping coaching. What happened once Shaq left? Shaq went on to win two (EDIT: my bad, it was actually just one) championship and the Lakers crumbled until they added Pau Gasol(more talent). Not saying he doesn't deserve credit, but I do believe the lore of Phil Jackson has been helped considerably by having the greatest talents on his teams.

If LaMarcus was not stepping up and setting an example, acting as a team leader, we would not be winning. The reasons LaMarcus explained are due to personal reasons and stepping up in the absence of Roy. Not a lot to do with Nate's coaching. How much is it Nate? How much is it his new assistants? How much is it LaMarcus stepping up? How much is it the players gaining chemistry as the season plods along? Given Nate's history, I am not about to give him a ton of credit.
 
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LA now averaging 28.5pts, 10rebs, 2asts, 2blks, 1.5stl on 56% FG, and 82% FT in about 41mpg, through 6 games in Feb.
I wish he would get some MVP talk with those numbers but since he didn't make the all star team people will just ignore him for it.
 
Has he ever won a championship w/o having a "greatest player of all time/generation" on his team? The Lakers are a great example of player talent trumping coaching. What happened once Shaq left? Shaq went on to win two championships and the Lakers crumbled until they added Pau Gasol(more talent). Not saying he doesn't deserve credit, but I do believe the lore of Phil Jackson has been helped considerably by having the greatest talents on his teams.

If LaMarcus was not stepping up and setting an example, acting as a team leader, we would not be winning. The reasons LaMarcus explained are due to personal reasons and stepping up in the absence of Roy. Not a lot to do with Nate's coaching. How much is it Nate? How much is it his new assistants? How much is it LaMarcus stepping up? How much is it the players gaining chemistry as the season plods along? Given Nate's history, I am not about to give him a ton of credit.

*Shaq won only one championship after he left the Lakers. He got one with Miami and then they traded him to Phoenix where he flopped, and then Phoenix traded him to Cleveland where he flopped... and now he's with Boston.
 
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Loves tdot and the team. But misses the guys from the blazers. One of a kind group of guys

And his quote in the papers:
"I tell everyone (Aldridge) is the most underrated player in the league,” said Bayless, who scored 18 fourth-quarter points to nearly lift Toronto to victory. “He got snubbed for the All-Star Game, no question about it. He's playing unbelievable."
 
and all we got is a pick in the 20s for a guy who could score off the bench, loved his team mates, and added a swagger we needed.

wow
 
*Shaq won only one championship after he left the Lakers. He got one with Miami and then they traded him to Phoenix where he flopped, and then Phoenix traded him to Cleveland where he flopped... and now he's with Boston.

My mistake, they did come close to getting two, but not quite.
 
and all we got is a pick in the 20s for a guy who could score off the bench, loved his team mates, and added a swagger we needed.

wow

We don't know how that pick is going to turn out and it's not like Bayless is lighting it up every night. He was insanely hot with his 3ptrs tonight, but he's seen spotty minutes and inconsistent play while on the Raptors. It would probably be a similar story on the Blazers. He's not really a PG and is kinda small to be a SG. He'd be fighting with Mills for play time probably.
 
We don't know how that pick is going to turn out and it's not like Bayless is lighting it up every night. He was insanely hot with his 3ptrs tonight, but he's seen spotty minutes and inconsistent play while on the Raptors. It would probably be a similar story on the Blazers. He's not really a PG and is kinda small to be a SG. He'd be fighting with Mills for play time probably.
Well we can play the odds. Picks in the 20s rarely work out.

At the worst Bayless is a decent bench player. He's actually shooting better from 3 than Patty....
 
We don't know how that pick is going to turn out and it's not like Bayless is lighting it up every night. He was insanely hot with his 3ptrs tonight, but he's seen spotty minutes and inconsistent play while on the Raptors. It would probably be a similar story on the Blazers. He's not really a PG and is kinda small to be a SG. He'd be fighting with Mills for play time probably.

Ultimately, we lost a guy who could have possibly contributed to our playoff run. Nearly everyone in PDX thought the Blazers would be fighting with OKC for that top spot in the NW this year, and we figured that this would be a good year for us in the playoffs as well. Teams like ours should not trade potentially productive players for draft picks. It was Cho's first move, but a dumb one.
 
I saw the replay at the 3:30 mark left in the 3rd when Rudy had the ball and he clearly didn't travel. His basket should have counted.
Yeah, Rudy got charged with two turnovers that weren't: also the kicked ball. The charge on LaMarcus around the same time was also BS and I believe took away an and-1.
 
I like Bayless' personality, but let's get real here. He's been on three teams in three seasons, and he's currently getting 20 mpg on a team projected to finish 27th in the league. I'm not really mourning his loss that much.

I think Patty Mills has about the same level of talent and upside. The difference being that Bayless is really an undersized shooting guard, while there's at least a little point guard in Mills.
 
Ultimately, we lost a guy who could have possibly contributed to our playoff run. Nearly everyone in PDX thought the Blazers would be fighting with OKC for that top spot in the NW this year, and we figured that this would be a good year for us in the playoffs as well. Teams like ours should not trade potentially productive players for draft picks. It was Cho's first move, but a dumb one.
I was somewhat ambivalent about the trade at the time, and could see some logic in it. Now, I'd rather have Bayless than Patty off the bench. In the long-term it will just depend on if the pick or what it gets us will help us more in the future than JB would have.
 
Ultimately, we lost a guy who could have possibly contributed to our playoff run. Nearly everyone in PDX thought the Blazers would be fighting with OKC for that top spot in the NW this year, and we figured that this would be a good year for us in the playoffs as well. Teams like ours should not trade potentially productive players for draft picks. It was Cho's first move, but a dumb one.

The Bayless trade kind of came out of nowhere, and it was based on three assumptions - which have all turned out to be wrong. Those assumptions were:

1) Armon Johnson, after a decent summer league and training camp was ready to assume the back-up PG role.
2) The team would be healthy, and therefore, there wouldn't be enough minutes to go around. Based on 1, this left Bayless the odd man out.
3) New Orleans would be worse than they are, likely a late lottery team, or at best a 7th or 8th seed. That would have resulted in the pick being in the 11 - 15 range.

I suppose there was a 4th factor, but I don't think it justifies giving away a young, fairly productive player - moving Bayless freed up more minutes for Rudy, which made him happy. If Roy had been healthy, the plan was Roy and Miller starting and getting the bulk of the minutes at the guard positions. Johnson would back up the PG spot, Matthews and Rudy would split the back-up SG minutes, with Matthews getting the bulk of his minutes at the back-up SF spot. And, that would have left Bayless and Mills fighting for garbage time minutes - something that would not have made Bayless happy.

Well, with Johnson clearly not ready, and Roy injured, that whole scenario goes out the window. There would have more PT for Bayless. At the very least, he would be getting Patty's minutes, and probably a few of Rudy's. too. And, if it comes down to Mills or Bayless, I'd rather have Bayless. They are both chuckers that are undersized SGs, but Bayless is less undersized than Mills and in addition to hoisting jumpers at a high rate, Bayless also drives the lane and gets to the foul line.

Neither player really shoots well enough to justify their volume of shot attempts, but Bayless shoots both better and less often than Mills. Although he plays on an extremely slow paced team, Mills averages 15.0 FGA/36 minutes. That makes him second on the Blazers, trailing only LaMarcus Aldridge, in FGA/36. Do you really want a guy with a 0.394 FG% and 0.291 3FG% jacking up that many shots? I don't. Bayless' numbers aren't great, but they are certainly better than Patty's. Even though he plays on a team with a much faster paced offense, Bayless attempts fewer GFA/36 than Mills (13.1 FGA/36 for Toronto, 12.9 FGA/36 for the season). And, he shoots a higher percentage (0.427 FG% and 0.342 3FG% for Toronto, 0.414 FG% and 0.322 3FG% total).

Given the choice, I'd much rather have Bayless than Mills. Bayless is a better player who can provide back-up minutes at both guard positions. Mills is strictly an sub-miniature SG in an undersized PG body. But that's a bit of 20/20 hindsight. I didn't know Roy was going to be injured at the time Bayless was traded? Did Cho? If he did, it was a bad trade. If he didn't, than why not? Isn't that part of his job, too?

BNM
 
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I agree with all of that, Boob. I'd add that, although Bayless' defense is less effective than it sometimes appears through his effort, it is leagues better than Patty's. Patty tries, he just can't.
 
The difference being that Bayless is really an undersized shooting guard, while there's at least a little point guard in Mills.

Mills isn't a PG. He's a sub-miniature SG. On a team that is 29th in the league in pace, Mills jacks up 15.0 FGA/36. Bayless is playing on a team with a much faster pace (10th in the league), but "only" jacks up 13.1 FGA/36. Bayless also has a higher AST% than Mills (28.0 for the season, 27.5 with Toronto, compared to 27.2 for Mills). If there is any PG in Mills, he's yet to show it. So far, he's proven to be the exact same player in the NBA as he was in college - a guy who shoots way too poorly to justify his shooting volume. And, he's absolutely hopeless on defense.

BNM
 
I agree with all of that, Boob. I'd add that, although Bayless' defense is less effective than it sometimes appears through his effort, it is leagues better than Patty's. Patty tries, he just can't.

Agreed. One thing I've noticed at the games, which may not come through on TV, is how horrible Patty is defending the pick and roll. This is a weakness of the Blazers PGs in general, but Patty is bad enough to stand out. He's just so slight, he can't fight through the pick, and god forbid if they switch and he ends up "guarding" an opposing big man. At least Miller and Bayless are strong enough to fight through some screens. Miller is smart enough to also know when the pick and roll is coming, and slip the screen. Miller is the slowest, least athletic of the three players, and while his defense isn't great, he does a much better job defending the high pick and roll than Bayless and especially Mills (who is just flat out hopeless).

BNM
 
If LaMarcus was not stepping up and setting an example, acting as a team leader, we would not be winning. The reasons LaMarcus explained are due to personal reasons and stepping up in the absence of Roy. Not a lot to do with Nate's coaching. How much is it Nate? How much is it his new assistants? How much is it LaMarcus stepping up? How much is it the players gaining chemistry as the season plods along? Given Nate's history, I am not about to give him a ton of credit.

Lol at this horseshit post.

Your posts are meaningless to me now.
 
*Shaq won only one championship after he left the Lakers. He got one with Miami and then they traded him to Phoenix where he flopped, and then Phoenix traded him to Cleveland where he flopped... and now he's with Boston.
That's an extremely unfair, biased assessment. Shaq was nearing the end of the high productivity portion of his career early on in Miami. By the time he was in Phoenix and Cleveland, he had an amazingly large amount of miles on the ol' diesel engine. Just being an above average big man was an accomplishment at that point. Dude's been in the league almost 20 years!
 
Just got to our hotel on 8 MILE! Flew in from Toronto, made it thru customs without having to visit the Ruben Patterson Suite........ Mike Rice was the only one who got the pat down from customs agents!
 
Just got to our hotel on 8 MILE! Flew in from Toronto, made it thru customs without having to visit the Ruben Patterson Suite........ Mike Rice was the only one who got the pat down from customs agents!

Maybe his martini shaker set off the alarm :police: :cheers:

Edit: ...actually you sure that pic w/ the sheep isn't from the Ruben Patterson Suite?
 
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Sergio haters say, 2 teams after the Blazers dumped him. Well, the Knicks didn't--he could have stayed with them. He lasted from 6/25/09 to 2/18/10 (played 39 of 54 games) with the Kings. This is their proof that Sergio sucks.

Bayless lasted from 10/23/10 to 11/20/10 (played 11 of 11 games) with the Hornets.

Sergio lasted multiple times longer than Bayless. Following their logic, this proves that Sergio is better than Bayless.

(P.S. Even if Sergio isn't better, Bayless still sucks. And it wasn't the brand new Cho's move, it was McMillan's wish.)
 
Sergio haters say, 2 teams after the Blazers dumped him. Well, the Knicks didn't--he could have stayed with them. He lasted from 6/25/09 to 2/18/10 (played 39 of 54 games) with the Kings. This is their proof that Sergio sucks.

Bayless lasted from 10/23/10 to 11/20/10 (played 11 of 11 games) with the Hornets.

Sergio lasted multiple times longer than Bayless. Following their logic, this proves that Sergio is better than Bayless.

(P.S. Even if Sergio isn't better, Bayless still sucks. And it wasn't the brand new Cho's move, it was McMillan's wish.)

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This is their proof that Sergio sucks.

You're making this way too complicated. Watching him play is all anyone needs as proof that Sergio sucks. He can't shoot, is one of the worst defenders I've ever seen and is a human turnover machine. And, as I , and many others predicted, he was out of the NBA as soon as his cheap rookie contract expired. Need more proof?


BNM
 
Because Nate McMillan insulted Sergio Rodriguez by ruining his natural style, Sergio will probably be snubbed by the Hall of Fame, despite entering the NBA as the 2nd-best passer of all time (list). Paul Westphal, who had been officially ostracized from the NBA for 10 years for incompetent coaching, then sacrificed his team to develop Tyreke Evans and have experience on the bench with Sergio. Westphal, a tall SG in his day like Evans who couldn't pass, apparently idolized Evans and was jealous of Sergio, causing his post-Sergio Kings to become the 2nd-worst team in the NBA.

Assists per 36 minutes, rookie season

10.0 John Stockton
9.1 Sergio Rodriguez
8.4 Isiah Thomas
8.2 Oscar Robertson
7.3 Magic Johnson
7.2 Joe Dumars
6.9 Walt Frazier
6.2 Tom Gola
5.9 Calvin Murphy
5.7 Tiny Archibald
5.6 Bill Bradley
5.5 Michael Jordan
5.2 Bill Walton
5.1 Maurice Stokes
4.5 Larry Bird
4.4 Pete Maravich
4.3 Dave Bing
4.3 Drazen Petrovic
4.3 Jerry West
4.2 Earl Monroe
4.1 K.C. Jones
4.0 Lenny Wilkens
3.9 Clyde Drexler
3.8 Frank Ramsey
3.7 Gail Goodrich
3.7 Scottie Pippen
2.9 John Havlicek
2.7 Dennis Johnson
2.2 Hal Greer
2.1 Rick Barry

http://bkref.com/tiny/PSykg
 
Because Nate McMillan insulted Sergio Rodriguez by ruining his natural style, Sergio will probably be snubbed by the Hall of Fame, despite entering the NBA as the 2nd-best passer of all time (list). Paul Westphal, who had been officially ostracized from the NBA for 10 years for incompetent coaching, then sacrificed his team to develop Tyreke Evans and have experience on the bench with Sergio. Westphal, a tall SG in his day like Evans who couldn't pass, apparently idolized Evans and was jealous of Sergio, causing his post-Sergio Kings to become the 2nd-worst team in the NBA.

Assists per 36 minutes, rookie season

10.0 John Stockton
9.1 Sergio Rodriguez
8.4 Isiah Thomas
8.2 Oscar Robertson
7.3 Magic Johnson
7.2 Joe Dumars
6.9 Walt Frazier
6.2 Tom Gola
5.9 Calvin Murphy
5.7 Tiny Archibald
5.6 Bill Bradley
5.5 Michael Jordan
5.2 Bill Walton
5.1 Maurice Stokes
4.5 Larry Bird
4.4 Pete Maravich
4.3 Dave Bing
4.3 Drazen Petrovic
4.3 Jerry West
4.2 Earl Monroe
4.1 K.C. Jones
4.0 Lenny Wilkens
3.9 Clyde Drexler
3.8 Frank Ramsey
3.7 Gail Goodrich
3.7 Scottie Pippen
2.9 John Havlicek
2.7 Dennis Johnson
2.2 Hal Greer
2.1 Rick Barry

http://bkref.com/tiny/PSykg

Doesn't this actually prove that Nate's coaching allowed Sergio to flourish during his rookie season, and then Sergio regressed from that year to the point that a PG-friendly coach like Mike D 'Antoni couldn't even salvage him as an NBA back-up?
 
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