Gardner...some things never change.

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Rick2583 said:
Over his last 4 full seasons if my math is right after eliminating HRs, doubles & triples & counting only the times he made it to 1st base (singles & walks)

2010 attempted a SB 31.1% of the time
2011 attempted a SB 39.8% of the time
2013 attempted a SB 21.2% of the time
2014 attempted a SB 17.4% of the time.

Note: please don't mention OBP because these #s have nothing to do with that, Gardner for some reason is just not attempting a SB as much as, he use to.
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I understand and agree he seems too timid regarding SB atts and I'll go along with your numbers. We've been down this road before, maybe we're just simply at odds as to what we would prefer if he doesn't return to, or never becomes more agressive?
His three highest single SB totals also correlate with his three highest OBPs (full season)..lol.

Okay, I guess we can't go any further with this one, some believe if he can steal 15-20 more bases it will be the difference between the Yankees being a playoff team or pennant contender... World Series?
(isn't that what we're realistically talking about here?)
 
blgridesagain said:
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I understand and agree he seems too timid regarding SB atts and I'll go along with your numbers. We've been down this road before, maybe we're just simply at odds as to what we would prefer if he doesn't return to, or ever becomes more agressive?
His three highest single SB totals also correlate with his three highest OBPs...lol.

Okay, I guess we can't go any further with this one, some believe if he can steal 15-20 more bases it will be the difference between the Yankees being a playoff team or pennant contender... World Series?
(isn't that what we're realistically talking about here?)
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More SBs = more players in scoring position = chance for more runs. Simple math.
 
Rick2583 said:
More SBs = more players in scoring position = chance for more runs. Simple math.
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Okay, I guess we can't go any further with this one, some believe if he can steal 15-20 more bases it will be the difference between the Yankees being a playoff team or pennant contender... World Series?
(isn't that what we're realistically talking about here?)
Whatever.....
 
blgridesagain said:
Okay, I guess we can't go any further with this one, some believe if he can steal 15-20 more bases it will be the difference between the Yankees being a playoff team or pennant contender... World Series?
(isn't that what we're realistically talking about here?)
Whatever.....
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Not a case of SOME believing, it's fact. Like I said.......simple math.
 
Rick2583 said:
Not a case of SOME believing, it's fact. Like I said.......simple math.
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I don't understand, let's try it this way.

Simple math, fact- if Gardner can steal 23-26 more bases it will be the difference whether or not the Yankees are a playoff team and World Series contender.
His two highest single season SB totals are 47 and 49. Then 26, 24, 21.
 
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The point wasn't stolen bases. It was the amount of strike outs and watching too many good pitches sail by. In short his obp is most important so he can actually score runs.
 
blgridesagain said:
I don't understand, let's try it this way.

Simple math, fact- if Gardner can steal 15-20 more bases it will be the difference all things being equal, whether or not the Yankees are a playoff team and World Series contender.
(isn't that what we're realistically talking about here?)

His two highest single season SB totals are 47 and 49.
Then 26, 24, 21.
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You said SOME BELIEVE which you conveniently left out this time, I corrected you. The low SB totals over the last 2 seasons is because he stopped running. Did this really need explaining?
 
Rick2583 said:
You said SOME BELIEVE which you conveniently left out this time, I corrected you. The low SB totals over the last 2 seasons is because he stopped running. Did this really need explaining?
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I agree, he stopped running for whatever reason.
Some say the Yankee team would still be better served if Gardner steals only a couple/few more bases but makes significant improvements on his overall hitting.

I'll bow out of this one.
 
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blgridesagain said:
I agree, he stopped running for whatever reason.
Some say the Yankee team would still be better served if Gardner steals only a couple/few more bases but makes significant improvements on his overall hitting.

I'll bow out of this one.
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Good idea.
 
Hammerojustice said:
High hopes
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I'm in for a let down, eh? I don't doubt it, just wishful thinking to continue bleeding blue, yet at times, it may feel more like hemorrhaging.......

I didn't have fears of heights until I fell off a roof, when I broke this back.....now heights; even looking up from the sidewalk give me Vertigo....:breakdance:

I guess, I'll take what I can get this year, forget choosing door #3......LOL....!
 
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