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I think this is the first time genius and the Health Care Bill have been used in the same sentence by someone sane.


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Pretty simple to vote no because all you need to do is pass a new law with these ideas after this one is signed, then the pubs would have to vote for it. Hence another vicrory for Obama, bipartisan even.
 
Pretty simple to vote no because all you need to do is pass a new law with these ideas after this one is signed, then the pubs would have to vote for it. Hence another vicrory for Obama, bipartisan even.

But first the Democrats have to vote against this measure, thereby allowing sexual offenders to receive ED drugs.

"I was against it, before I was for it." It's turning John Kerry-logic on its head.
 
Senator Coburn probably is considered a genius compared to his constituents in Oklahoma, the dumbest state in the union, but in the real world he's just another petulant foot-dragger.

This is rich, coming from a proud resident of LaPine. :biglaugh:
 
This stalling and pandering by the republicans is bullshit. The bill passed. Get over it. Yeah, it sucks. But slowing down the house and senate when there is a million other things that need to be addressed is not going to help, the republicans just look petty now.

Yeah, the Republicans shouldn't try to slow down a government take-over of 15% of our economy. Get over it. Let the Dems move on to finding more things for the government to take over, and spend trillions of dollars on.
 
If these amendments keep the law from being enacted because it forces it to go back through the other house, is it possible that the GOP could keep this up through the mid-terms? If so, would they be able to potentially overturn the bill passage if they were able to win a majority in one of the houses?

It doesn't. This isn't the bill, it's a set of "fixes" to the bill. The bill was passed and signed into law.

What the republicans can do is keep the issue alive a lot longer, and remind people what a horrible piece of shit the bill is and who voted for it, etc.

If they don't, the voters have a short memory (probably less for this though).

If the fixit bill doesn't pass by election time, the bill that was signed has a lot of things common folk don't like. Such as the bribery provisions.

Realize that whatever the senate has passed, the house hasn't actually wanted to vote for, and vice versa. We may be in for a prolonged fight within the Democrat party until the right combination of bribes are found to satisfy enough of them to get the votes needed.
 
But first the Democrats have to vote against this measure, thereby allowing sexual offenders to receive ED drugs.

"I was against it, before I was for it." It's turning John Kerry-logic on its head.
i don't understand why people make a such a huge deal about "flip flopping" and voting record in situations like this. as long as it can be reasonably explained, why does it matter?
 
"First I voted against funding the troops before voting for funding the troops."

Nah, it didn't matter.
 
What the republicans can do is keep the issue alive a lot longer, and remind people what a horrible piece of shit the bill is and who voted for it, etc.

If they don't, the voters have a short memory (probably less for this though).

If the fixit bill doesn't pass by election time, the bill that was signed has a lot of things common folk don't like. Such as the bribery provisions.

Realize that whatever the senate has passed, the house hasn't actually wanted to vote for, and vice versa. We may be in for a prolonged fight within the Democrat party until the right combination of bribes are found to satisfy enough of them to get the votes needed.

what stimulus bill?
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"First I voted against funding the troops before voting for funding the troops."

Nah, it didn't matter.
so there is never a legitimate reason to change your mind on something? it isn't possible for a situation to change and the correct response now is different from the correct response in the past?

nice to know i guess. i'll just have to always make sure to never have an opinion on anything unless i'm comfortable keeping those beliefs for the rest of my life regardless of circumstance.
 
so there is never a legitimate reason to change your mind on something? it isn't possible for a situation to change and the correct response now is different from the correct response in the past?

nice to know i guess. i'll just have to always make sure to never have an opinion on anything unless i'm comfortable keeping those beliefs for the rest of my life regardless of circumstance.

I'm just pointing out it made Al Gore look like even more of a jackass than he otherwise appears to be.
 
I really hope the Republicans are smart enough to add as an amendment the fix for children's care that the bill overlooked. I would like to see the Democrats vote against that.
 

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