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SharpesTriumph

SharpesTriumph

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Giannis should be the Blazers #1 off season trade target.

Favorite idea so far:

Zion Timelord and 5 years of picks to the Bucks

Ant Ayton #10 2030 Blazers unprotected pick to the Pelicans

Blazers rotation next year:

Giannis Clingan
Camara
Deni Grant
Sharpe Thybulle
Scoot CJ
 
I think other teams have more assets to trade for him. If it takes Scoot to go past the finish line, do you agree?
 
I was just thinking of a stupid trade idea… mostly to ask the question: would you trade back Milwaukee’s 2028 pick to get Giannis now?
 
SwissBlazer said:
I think other teams have more assets to trade for him. If it takes Scoot to go past the finish line, do you agree?
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The only team that can realistically outbid us is maybe New Orleans because we can offer something that almost no other team can offer..... their future back to them. The Pels own their immediate future and we own their late future.

We can offer young players (Sharpe/Scoot) we can offer their own draft capital back to them, we can offer expiring contracts in Ayton and Rob and we can offer our own picks. The haul is pretty significant.

Sharpe
Scoot
Ayton
Rob
2025 FRP
2030 FRP
2032 FRP
Buck 2028 swap
Buck 2029 pick
Buck 2030 swap

That's not a bad haul at all.

With that said, I'm not sure I'd do it.
 
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Is this team a championship contender:

Simons/Deni
Tou/Tisse
Deni/Murray
Giannis/Grant
Clingan/???

We'd have a lot of holes in our bench. The starting lineup is pretty potent. I'd want to add a backup point guard and a bench scorer. I also don't think Grant would love coming off the bench. We could try to move him for some other pieces.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Is this team a championship contender:

Simons/Deni
Tou/Tisse
Deni/Murray
Giannis/Grant
Clingan/???

We'd have a lot of holes in our bench. The starting lineup is pretty potent. I'd want to add a backup point guard and a bench scorer. I also don't think Grant would love coming off the bench. We could try to move him for some other pieces.
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It's good looking on paper but I don't think it works in practice. That starting lineup is worse on defense than our current best lineup, and we aren't going to get better on defense again without more trades. I think the juice isn't worth the squeeze for Giannis, personally. He's too expensive to turn us into a contender, and when he goes, we're in Milwaukee's shoes and they're in ours. I don't like that.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The only team that can realistically outbid us is maybe New Orleans because we can offer something that almost no other team can offer..... their future back to them. The Pels own their immediate future and we own their late future.

We can offer young players (Sharpe/Scoot) we can offer their own draft capital back to them, we can offer expiring contracts in Ayton and Rob and we can offer our own picks. The haul is pretty significant.

Sharpe
Scoot
Ayton
Rob
2025 FRP
2030 FRP
2032 FRP
Buck 2028 swap
Buck 2029 pick
Buck 2030 swap

That's not a bad haul at all.

With that said, I'm not sure I'd do it.
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Pelicans only own the Bucks;
-2026 swap, which from the 27th ranked Pelicans might not be worth much, even if the Bucks rebuild
-2027 pick if top 4 (if the 2027 Bucks pick is #5-30 the Hawks own it)
 
Natebishop3 said:
The only team that can realistically outbid us is maybe New Orleans because we can offer something that almost no other team can offer..... their future back to them. The Pels own their immediate future and we own their late future.

We can offer young players (Sharpe/Scoot) we can offer their own draft capital back to them, we can offer expiring contracts in Ayton and Rob and we can offer our own picks. The haul is pretty significant.

Sharpe
Scoot
Ayton
Rob
2025 FRP
2030 FRP
2032 FRP
Buck 2028 swap
Buck 2029 pick
Buck 2030 swap

That's not a bad haul at all.

With that said, I'm not sure I'd do it.
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I wouldn't give up all of those. We need to hold onto Sharpe/Scoot and some of the picks. If we gave up all of that we wouldn't be a top contender and would lack picks to improve to that.
 
Everything Beagle said:
Exactly. Even if he just fell in our laps for free, he's not enough to beat OKC in the WCF with the team we have now.

Our window is 3-5 years out, not 1 year out.
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No I don't think Giannis makes us a favorite.

Theres a very big difference between being a contender and being a favorite though. Yes OKC will be a much bigger favorite next year regardless of our moves. Spurs might be a dominant favorite in the 4 years from now period you mention regardless. But it also only take one injury for any of these teams to fall short in a given season - then another team can end up in the finals with a real shot at the title.

Denver, Bucks, Dallas, Toronto, Phoenix, Heat, and a number of teams have snuck in and made the finals or flat out won a title while it didn't look like they were close to favorites.

Giannis would make us a contender. Maybe only a longshot or darkhorse contender, but still thats something this franchise hasn't had in about 25 years. We were just on the edge the year Wes Achillies snapped. Other than that we've never been close. But if we get Giannis - then have another player exceed expectations similar to Deni or Camara - who knows we could be right there.
 
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Everything Beagle said:
Exactly. Even if he just fell in our laps for free, he's not enough to beat OKC in the WCF with the team we have now.

Our window is 3-5 years out, not 1 year out.
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I disagree

Ant, Scoot, Banton
Shae, Tisse, Rupert
Deni, Tou, Murray
Freak, Grant, Walker
Ayton, Clingan, Williams

Can win a championship in 2026

Obviously this is purely hypothetical
 
SharpesTriumph said:
No I don't think Giannis makes us a favorite.

Theres a very big difference between being a contender and being a favorite though. Yes OKC will be a much bigger favorite next year regardless of our moves. Spurs might be a dominant favorite in the 4 years from now period you mention regardless. But it also only take one injury for any of these teams to fall short in a given season - then another team can end up in the finals with a real shot at the title.

Denver, Bucks, Dallas, Toronto, Phoenix, Heat, and a number of teams have snuck in and made the finals or flat out won a title while it didn't look like they were close to favorites.

Giannis would make us a contender. Maybe only a longshot or darkhorse contender, but still thats something this franchise hasn't had in about 25 years. We were just on the edge the year Wes Achillies snapped. Other than that we've never been close. But if we get Giannis - then have another player exceed expectations similar to Deni or Camara - who knows we could be right there.
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One injury doesn’t kill OKC. They are deep. They sat their whole starting lineup and destroyed us.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I wouldn't give up all of those. We need to hold onto Sharpe/Scoot and some of the picks. If we gave up all of that we wouldn't be a top contender and would lack picks to improve to that.
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Yeah I don’t think I would do it but I’m just showing that the blazers COULD put together a package that could beat most teams.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
No I don't think Giannis makes us a favorite.

Theres a very big difference between being a contender and being a favorite though. Yes OKC will be a much bigger favorite next year regardless of our moves. Spurs might be a dominant favorite in the 4 years from now period you mention regardless. But it also only take one injury for any of these teams to fall short in a given season - then another team can end up in the finals with a real shot at the title.

Denver, Bucks, Dallas, Toronto, Phoenix, Heat, and a number of teams have snuck in and made the finals or flat out won a title while it didn't look like they were close to favorites.

Giannis would make us a contender. Maybe only a longshot or darkhorse contender, but still thats something this franchise hasn't had in about 25 years. We were just on the edge the year Wes Achillies snapped. Other than that we've never been close. But if we get Giannis - then have another player exceed expectations similar to Deni or Camara - who knows we could be right there.
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I don't consider dark horse or longshot to be in the contender range. I consider top 4 seed to be contender range. I think we top out at 5th seed in the west even in the fantasy scenario, and in the trade scenario we're maybe 6th or 7th seed. Giannis brings a lot, but I don't think he's enough, even for free in fantasy world.
 
Everything Beagle said:
Exactly. Even if he just fell in our laps for free, he's not enough to beat OKC in the WCF with the team we have now.

Our window is 3-5 years out, not 1 year out.
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3-5 years out from now fans will still be saying our window is 3-5 years out because we never went for the big swing trade. We will probably still be building out of the draft.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah I don’t think I would do it but I’m just showing that the blazers COULD put together a package that could beat most teams.
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Yeah I wonder what are packages other teams would be able to give up? Some of these trades for an MVP level player are more difficult that it would seem at first as the team trading for Giannis has to have enough left after the trade to contend.

The Thunder and Spurs are probably the teams most able to do that. We're probably on the border of being able to, only in the Giannis example since its the actual Bucks picks we own.
 
Everything Beagle said:
I don't consider dark horse or longshot to be in the contender range. I consider top 4 seed to be contender range. I think we top out at 5th seed in the west even in the fantasy scenario, and in the trade scenario we're maybe 6th or 7th seed. Giannis brings a lot, but I don't think he's enough, even for free in fantasy world.
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We were 3rd seeds twice with Dame but never a contender. Got swept once against the Pelicans but made the WCF the other year. To me a contender is a team that is trying to win multiple playoff series and has a realistic possibility of that happening. Giannis gets us to that level. Some can argue semantics but we're splitting hairs here with word definitions. We certainly wouldn't be a top favorite with Giannis but we'd be one of the few teams with a chance - which is very rare. The Dame teams never had enough two way players on defense or offense but with Giannis, Deni, Camara, Scoot, Clingan, some of our youth improving it's at least a possibility.

Ultimately Giannis being dealt depends on all 3 of what team Giannis accepts going to, what the market is, and what the Bucks decide to do. I certainly think the Blazers should heavily explore the possibility though. It eventually might turn out its better for us to be the 3rd team in a Giannis trade or just keep those Bucks picks for a future year.

I will say that it is nice to have a Blazers offseason where there is a scenario we could acquire an All-NBA level player and that it could actually make sense for the team both short and long term. Been a LONG time since that was the case. Even when we had Dame and either the #7 pick or #3 pick to flip for a Jaylen Brown level of vet it didn't seem like that type of roster would actually have the two way players to contend. Having two way wings in Deni and Camara opens up possibilities this franchise hasn't had since at the least the best Aldridge teams. It might be the best foundation we've had since the Rasheed era.

I enjoyed watching Lillard but I never saw a realistic way to transition a team with a short poor defensive ball dominant player into a title contender. Not saying that will happen now, but at least we have a couple of the correct pieces to start working on the puzzle.
 
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Wouldn’t Giannis have to want to come to the PNW? I just don’t see that.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Yeah I wonder what are packages other teams would be able to give up? Some of these trades for an MVP level player are more difficult that it would seem at first as the team trading for Giannis has to have enough left after the trade to contend.

The Thunder and Spurs are probably the teams most able to do that. We're probably on the border of being able to, only in the Giannis example since its the actual Bucks picks we own.
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The problem is that you need matching salary. The Blazers have a shit ton of expiring money with Ayton, Simons, and Rob.

OKC does not. We also have some young talent that we can part with. Scoot and Shae would be a very intriguing combo to build around for a team that wants to start over.

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Same problem with San Antonio
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Natebishop3 said:
The problem is that you need matching salary. The Blazers have a shit ton of expiring money with Ayton, Simons, and Rob.

OKC does not. We also have some young talent that we can part with. Scoot and Shae would be a very intriguing combo to build around for a team that wants to start over.

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I think OKC has plenty to offer with all their picks. The matching contracts are not exciting, but to get all of those picks, Hartenstein and Joe (or Dort) are not a bad return
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think OKC has plenty to offer with all their picks. The matching contracts are not exciting, but to get all of those picks, Hartenstein and Joe (or Dort) are not a bad return
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Sure, they have plenty to offer. But we have THEIR picks. I already broke down why I think we can make the best offer. I'm not going to do it again.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Sure, they have plenty to offer. But we have THEIR picks. I already broke down why I think we can make the best offer. I'm not going to do it again.
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No way are we the best offer.

My money is on HOUSTON.

Alperen Sengun (routed elsewhere for more picks?)
Reed Sheppard
Jabari Smith
2025 #9
1st Best of 2027 #1 between Phx, BK, and Hou
2nd Best of 2027 #1 between Phx, BK, and Hou
1st Best of 2029 #1 between Phx, Dal, and Hou
2nd Best of 2029 #1 between Phx, Dal, and Hou

Bucks probably could trade Sengun to the Pels and get Zion and their 26 and 27 picks back.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Sure, they have plenty to offer. But we have THEIR picks. I already broke down why I think we can make the best offer. I'm not going to do it again.
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If OKC offers up one of Chet or Jalen Williams, it's a centerpiece that is likely better than anything we could offer up.

Ultimately, I think Houston makes a big push for him and land him this offseason.
 
RR7 said:
If OKC offers up one of Chet or Jalen Williams, it's a centerpiece that is likely better than anything we could offer up.

Ultimately, I think Houston makes a big push for him and land him this offseason.
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If I was OKC, I would hold on to Chet. Dude is gunna be special. I wish we have him. Admittedly I thought he was gunna be a bust. I saw him play live at Moda when he was with Gonzaga and he underwhelmed.
 
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