Tech Global warming: greatest sham in science

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/clari...rming-not-real-claims-weather-channel-founder

'Global warming the greatest scam in history' claims founder of Weather Channel
THE debate about climate change is finished - because it has been categorically proved NOT to exist, one of the world's best known climate change sceptic has claimed.
By JASON TAYLOR
04:35, Tue, Jun 9, 2015 | UPDATED: 12:27, Wed, Jun 10, 2015

AP

Climate change has been 'disproved' and polar ice is 'increasing'
John Coleman, who co-founded the Weather Channel, shocked academics by insisting the theory of man-made climate change was no longer scientifically credible.

Instead, what 'little evidence' there is for rising global temperatures points to a 'natural phenomenon' within a developing eco-system.

**CLICK HERE TO SEE STUNNING ICEBERG IMAGES**

In an open letter attacking the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, he wrote: "The ocean is not rising significantly.

"The polar ice is increasing, not melting away. Polar Bears are increasing in number.

"Heat waves have actually diminished, not increased. There is not an uptick in the number or strength of storms (in fact storms are diminishing).

"I have studied this topic seriously for years. It has become a political and environment agenda item, but the science is not valid."

AP

Man made climate change is a myth according to Coleman, inset

 

[DaLincolnJones]

the shame is that everyone like this that speaks the truth, is marginalized, scoffed at and made the punch line of late night TV hosts.

The Global warming/Climate change crowd has created an industry into itself and the left will never let that be threatened.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I love how this was allegedly posted June 9, 2015, but the comments section has comments that are listed as over 300 days old.

 

[magnifier661]

I love how this was allegedly posted June 9, 2015, but the comments section has comments that are listed as over 300 days old.

Interesting

 

[Denny Crane]

The oceans are dead. Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2015/09/if-arctic-is-melting-why-is-president.html

If The Arctic Is Melting Why Is The President Ordering New Ice Breakers For Arctic?

 

[magnifier661]

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2015/09/if-arctic-is-melting-why-is-president.html

If The Arctic Is Melting Why Is The President Ordering New Ice Breakers For Arctic?

But oceans are dead

 

[BigGameDamian]

Well according to the farmers almanac it's supposed to dump snow this winter in the Pacific Northwest!

 

[dviss1]

Oregon just had the hottest summer on record... Let's not act like it's ok to pour CO2 in our atmosphere. You get one biostitute to say this but the overwhelming majority of every country's science community says different. Screw this dude...

 

[dviss1]

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2015/09/if-arctic-is-melting-why-is-president.html

If The Arctic Is Melting Why Is The President Ordering New Ice Breakers For Arctic?

I Just don't get that shit at all...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/clari...rming-not-real-claims-weather-channel-founder

'Global warming the greatest scam in history' claims founder of Weather Channel
THE debate about climate change is finished - because it has been categorically proved NOT to exist, one of the world's best known climate change sceptic has claimed.
By JASON TAYLOR
04:35, Tue, Jun 9, 2015 | UPDATED: 12:27, Wed, Jun 10, 2015

AP

Climate change has been 'disproved' and polar ice is 'increasing'
John Coleman, who co-founded the Weather Channel, shocked academics by insisting the theory of man-made climate change was no longer scientifically credible.

Instead, what 'little evidence' there is for rising global temperatures points to a 'natural phenomenon' within a developing eco-system.

**CLICK HERE TO SEE STUNNING ICEBERG IMAGES**

In an open letter attacking the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, he wrote: "The ocean is not rising significantly.

"The polar ice is increasing, not melting away. Polar Bears are increasing in number.

"Heat waves have actually diminished, not increased. There is not an uptick in the number or strength of storms (in fact storms are diminishing).

"I have studied this topic seriously for years. It has become a political and environment agenda item, but the science is not valid."

AP

Man made climate change is a myth according to Coleman, inset

This fine gentleman is 80yrs old.

Has a degree in journalism.

Was president of the Weather Channel for its first year of operation and then was forced out.

Has never done any research or scientific investigation into global warming.

Became a skeptic of global warming after becoming upset when the football pregame show he was watching dimmed the studio lights during a piece on green energy.




Wow, I can see how his words and opinions carry so much weight with you guys.

 

[magnifier661]

This fine gentleman is 80yrs old.

Has a degree in journalism.

Was president of the Weather Channel for its first year of operation and then was forced out.

Has never done any research or scientific investigation into global warming.

Became a skeptic of global warming after becoming upset when the football pregame show he was watching dimmed the studio lights during a piece on green energy.




Wow, I can see how his words and opinions carry so much weight with you guys.

Oceans are dead man. Pick your battles

 

[SlyPokerDog]

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2015/09/if-arctic-is-melting-why-is-president.html

If The Arctic Is Melting Why Is The President Ordering New Ice Breakers For Arctic?

Hmmm... why would the President order more ice breakers?


The Ice War Cometh? Russia makes play for Arctic, Obama seeks more Coast Guard icebreakers

While visiting Alaska and becoming the first American president to enter the Arctic Circle, President Obama announced Tuesday he would speed up the acquisition of icebreakers to help the U.S. Coast Guard navigate an area that Russia and China increasingly see as a new frontier.


The announcement is the latest power play in the Arctic north, where melting ice has led to a race for resources and access.


Forty percent of the world's oil and natural gas reserves lie under the Arctic. Melting ice also would lead to new shipping routes, and Russia wants to establish a kind of Suez Canal which it controls. More than a Cold War, Russia may be preparing for an Ice War, and the Pentagon is taking note.


Last March, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a snap, full combat military exercise in Russia's Arctic north to mark the anniversary of his annexation of Crimea -- with 40,000 Russian troops, dozens of warships and submarines.


At the American Legion on Tuesday, the U.S. defense secretary warned against complacency.


“We do not seek to make Russia an enemy,” Defense Secretary Ash Carter said. “But make no mistake: while Vladimir Putin may be intent on turning the clock back in Russia, he cannot turn the clock back in Europe. We will defend our allies.”


Russia has reestablished Soviet-era military bases across the Arctic and begun building a string of search-and-rescue stations along its Arctic shores. In April, Russia’s economic minister explained the importance.


"For us, the Arctic is mineral resources, transportation, and one also should not forget about fish and sea products, and bio-resources. The potential here is enormous," Alexey Ulyukaev said.


After invading Ukraine, Russia pulled out of the Arctic Council, a consortium of eight countries that includes the U.S.


Asked about Russia’s recent moves in the Arctic, State Department spokesman Mark Toner said: "And so do we have concerns specifically about Russia? I would say … we have concerns about how militaries conduct themselves in the Arctic, but that's for all of the Arctic Council members to discuss."


In 2007, the Pentagon also took note when Russia planted its flag on the seabed under the North Pole for the first time.


Perhaps it was no coincidence that the Kremlin just released a video of Putin working out with his prime minister -- an insight into the psyche of the Russian leader, who is trying to “flex his muscles” in more ways than one.


Meanwhile, the U.S. only has two functioning icebreakers. Russia has 41, with plans to build 11 more. Obama on Tuesday, while highlighting the effect of climate change, announced he will speed up acquisition of these coveted ships though they won’t be ready until 2020.


The commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard has warned the U.S. is already behind.


“Russia has one-eighth the gross domestic product of the United States. Clearly the Arctic is a priority for Russia,” Adm. Paul Zukunft said in February during his “State of the Coast Guard” address. “There's a new ocean opening. Coast Guard authorities mandate our presence wherever U.S. national interests require people and ships to operate.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...for-arctic-obama-seeks-more-navy-icebreakers/




As Chinese Ships Cruise Arctic For First Time, Will U.S. Build New Icebreakers?

WASHINGTON: After seven years of thinking about the possibilities, the Obama administration now says it wants to build at least one serious icebreaker in the face of increasing competition for the oil, gas, fish and shipping routes the Arctic can offer.

Right now, we’ve got two truly operational ice breakers: the Coast Guard Cutter Polar Star, a 399-foot heavy icebreaker commissioned in 1976, and the Healy, a 420-foot medium icebreaker commissioned in 2000.

But it will take the Coast Guard about a decade to build an ice breaker using the standard acquisition approach, says one of America’s most experienced Arctic sailors, retired Rear Adm. Jeffrey Garrett. If we’re serious about getting something into the water, Garrett says we could do it in about four years, but that would mean greatly foreshortening a lot of the traditional acquisition approach used to build Coast Guard ships.

http://breakingdefense.com/2015/09/...or-first-time-will-u-s-build-new-icebreakers/


Obama pushes for new icebreaker 2 years early

The Coast Guard's campaign for another heavy icebreaker made a leap forward Tuesday when President Obama announced he moved up the plan to buy the powerful special duty cutterby two years.

During an Alaska tour to promote America's role in the warming Arctic, Obama said he would propose moving up the acquisition timetable for the service's next polar icebreaker from 2022 to 2020 and call for construction on several more, according to a White House release.

"These heavy icebreakers will ensure that the United States can meet our national interests, protect and manage our natural resources, and strengthen our international, state, local, and tribal relationships," the statement said.

Global warming is melting the floating sea ice that has long made this region intractable for ships and is opening the resource-rich region to industry. With greater vessel traffic and oil and resource drilling, the Coast Guard has said it needs to bolster its small and aging icebreaker fleet to be ready to rescue ice-locked ships.

http://www.navytimes.com/story/mili...-guard-cutter-polar-star-antarctica/71634472/

 

[rasheedfan2005]

winter is coming!

 

[Denny Crane]

There is no ice. The glaciers are dead. Ice breakers are pointless. Unless they're not.

 

[MARIS61]

Snopes:

Origins: John Coleman is a television weather forecaster who worked in that field for over six decades, at a number of different TV stations across the U.S., until he suddenly retired from his last job at KUSI-TV in San Diego in April 2014. Coleman pioneered the use of such now-standard TV weather forecasting elements as onscreen satellite technology and computer graphics, and he was also instrumental in the founding of The Weather Channel (TWC) on cable television, serving as that channel's CEO and President during its establishment and its first year of operation.

John Coleman also became, in later years, an outspoken critic of the global warming issue, stating that his epiphany came while he was viewing a football game in 2007:
The Eagles were playing the Cowboys in Philadelphia on Sunday Night Football, and as a gesture of environmental awareness — it was "Green is Universal" week at NBC-Universal — the studio lights were cut for portions of the pre-game and half-time shows. Coleman, who had been growing increasingly skeptical about global warming for more than a decade, finally snapped. "I couldn’t take it anymore," said. "I did a Howard Beale."
In November 2007 Coleman penned a widely-reproduced essay in which he labeled global warming "the greatest scam in history" and "a manufactured crisis," and he delivered a speech in that same vein (the text of which is reproduced above) to the San Diego Chamber of Commerce in June 2008.

Although this item is superficially "true" in the sense that the words quoted above were indeed written by John Coleman, the statement that they "refute" global warming (i.e., prove it to be false) is something of an exaggeration. As Coleman's critics have noted, he does not hold a degree in climatology or any related discipline, nor has he studied or conducted any research in that field; he merely parrots arguments advanced by others. Moreover, much of his criticism of climate change deals with impugning the motives of those engaged in that discipline rather than refuting the science behind their work:
For the many Americans who don't understand the difference between weather — the short-term behavior of the atmosphere — and climate — the broader system in which weather happens — Coleman's professional background made him a genuine authority on global warming. It was an impression that Coleman encouraged. Global warming "is not something you 'believe in,'" he wrote in his essay. "It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise."

Except that it wasn't. Coleman had spent half a century in the trenches of TV weathercasting; he had once been an accredited meteorologist, and remained a virtuoso forecaster. But his work was more a highly technical art than a science. His degree, received fifty years earlier at the University of Illinois, was in journalism. And then there was the fact that the research that Coleman was rejecting wasn't "the science of meteorology" at all — it was the science of climatology, a field in which Coleman had spent no time whatsoever.

Skepticism is, of course, the core value of scientific inquiry. But the essay that Coleman published would have more properly been termed rejectionism. Coleman wasn't arguing against the integrity of a particular conclusion based on careful original research — something that would have constituted useful scientific skepticism. Instead, he went after the motives of the scientists themselves. Climate researchers, he wrote, "look askance at the rest of us, certain of their superiority. They respect government and disrespect business, particularly big business. They are environmentalists above all else."
Critics of Coleman who do study and work in the field of climate science have produced detailed line-by-line rebuttals of his arguments against global warming.

Last updated: 30 June 2014
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/science/coleman.asp#TZ707wkTWXisp6To.99

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Oceans are dead man. Pick your battles

You and Denny crack me up. 90% of the large fish in the ocean are gone. 90% of a huge part of the ocean ecosystem is gone. We are over fishing the oceans to extinction. Instead of having a discussion about that you and Denny stick your fingers in your ears and chant how everything is just fine. Add to that the pollution of the oceans. Yes, I know they're big but we can and are polluting them. The one thing that we look for in the search for life beyond this planet is... wait for it... wait.. WATER! These evil, stupid, political agenda driven scientists have the balls to tell us that water some how is the number one ingredient to the creation of life. And yet you and Denny say that is completely wrong. Oceans aren't important. Ours are fine. Over fishing? Pollution? Fuck all that.

If 90% of the large land animals were killed including humans, leaving rats, mice and insects free to fill the void I would say we've pretty much killed the planet while you would be saying everything is fine. While technically we would both be wrong my stance is far closer to the truth.

 

[magnifier661]

You and Denny crack me up. 90% of the large fish in the ocean are gone. 90% of a huge part of the ocean ecosystem is gone. We are over fishing the oceans to extinction. Instead of having a discussion about that you and Denny stick your fingers in your ears and chant how everything is just fine. Add to that the pollution of the oceans. Yes, I know they're big but we can and are polluting them. The one thing that we look for in the search for life beyond this planet is... wait for it... wait.. WATER! These evil, stupid, political agenda driven scientists have the balls to tell us that water some how is the number one ingredient to the creation of life. And yet you and Denny say that is completely wrong. Oceans aren't important. Ours are fine. Over fishing? Pollution? Fuck all that.

If 90% of the large land animals were killed including humans, leaving rats, mice and insects free to fill the void I would say we've pretty much killed the planet while you would be saying everything is fine. While technically we would both be wrong my stance is far closer to the truth.

I went fishing the other day: killed about 200 tuna and named them after you. We will have a moment of silence for those fish that fought so valiantly to be on my dinner plate

 

[rasheedfan2005]

You and Denny crack me up. 90% of the large fish in the ocean are gone. 90% of a huge part of the ocean ecosystem is gone. We are over fishing the oceans to extinction. Instead of having a discussion about that you and Denny stick your fingers in your ears and chant how everything is just fine. Add to that the pollution of the oceans. Yes, I know they're big but we can and are polluting them. The one thing that we look for in the search for life beyond this planet is... wait for it... wait.. WATER! These evil, stupid, political agenda driven scientists have the balls to tell us that water some how is the number one ingredient to the creation of life. And yet you and Denny say that is completely wrong. Oceans aren't important. Ours are fine. Over fishing? Pollution? Fuck all that.

If 90% of the large land animals were killed including humans, leaving rats, mice and insects free to fill the void I would say we've pretty much killed the planet while you would be saying everything is fine. While technically we would both be wrong my stance is far closer to the truth.

and why do we eat so many fish, slyporkerdog?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I went fishing the other day: killed about 200 tuna and named them after you. We will have a moment of silence for those fish that fought so valiantly to be on my dinner plate

Hey, here's an idea, give me 90% of your money and assets and according to your reasoning you'll still be richer. Win Win!

 

[magnifier661]

Hey, here's an idea, give me 90% of your money and assets and according to your reasoning you'll still be richer. Win Win!

I would but you don't deserve it. I donate to the national destroy the tuna and environment fund

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I would but you don't deserve it. I donate to the national destroy the tuna and environment fund

Got any vids of you destroying tuna? Is that possible for Asians?

 

[Denny Crane]

Mmmm mmmm.

Tastes like bald eagle.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

I went fishing the other day: killed about 200 tuna and named them after you. We will have a moment of silence for those fish that fought so valiantly to be on my dinner plate

 

[lawai'a]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...niños-side-by-side/ar-AAdWQQe?ocid=spartandhp
warming oceans / el nino then and now obviously nothing to do with global warming

 

[riverman]

I would but you don't deserve it. I donate to the national destroy the tuna and environment fund

Those aren't tuna mags

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/1997-vs-2015-animation-compares-el-niños-side-by-side/ar-AAdWQQe?ocid=spartandhp
warming oceans / el nino then and now obviously nothing to do with global warming

But as any El Niño researcher will tell you, no two El Niño events are alike, and the impacts from this one aren’t guaranteed to be just like 1997-1998.

The most obvious difference between this year and that event, clearly visible in the animation, is the “blob” of warm water off the west coast of North America, a symptom of the relentless high pressure pattern that has kept the West hot and dry over much of the last few years and led to the deep drought in California.

http://www.livescience.com/49052-california-drought-linked-natural-causes.html

California Drought Linked to Natural Causes, Not Climate Change

The ridge and its accompanying drought are opposite the conditions that climate models predict under global warming, lead study author Richard Seager, a professor at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in New York, said today (Dec. 8) during a news briefing. Climate models project low-pressure systems off the West Coast, with wetter winters and drier springs for central and northern California, he said. "Overall, it's a shorter, sharper rainy season," Seager said.



http://cpo.noaa.gov/ClimatePrograms...orces/DroughtTaskForce/CaliforniaDrought.aspx

The current drought is not part of a long-term change in California precipitation, which exhibits no appreciable trend since 1895. Key oceanic features that caused precipitation inhibiting atmospheric ridging off the West Coast during 2011-14 were symptomatic of natural internal atmosphere-ocean variability.

Model simulations indicate that human-induced climate change increases California precipitation in mid-winter, with a low-pressure circulation anomaly over the North Pacific, opposite to conditions of the last 3 winters. The same model simulations indicate a decrease in spring precipitation over California. However, precipitation deficits observed during the past three years are an order of magnitude greater than the model simulated changes related to human-induced forcing. Nonetheless, record setting high temperature that accompanied this recent drought was likely made more extreme due to human-induced global warming.

 

[lawai'a]

But as any El Niño researcher will tell you, no two El Niño events are alike, and the impacts from this one aren’t guaranteed to be just like 1997-1998.

The most obvious difference between this year and that event, clearly visible in the animation, is the “blob” of warm water off the west coast of North America, a symptom of the relentless high pressure pattern that has kept the West hot and dry over much of the last few years and led to the deep drought in California.

http://www.livescience.com/49052-california-drought-linked-natural-causes.html

California Drought Linked to Natural Causes, Not Climate Change

The ridge and its accompanying drought are opposite the conditions that climate models predict under global warming, lead study author Richard Seager, a professor at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in New York, said today (Dec. 8) during a news briefing. Climate models project low-pressure systems off the West Coast, with wetter winters and drier springs for central and northern California, he said. "Overall, it's a shorter, sharper rainy season," Seager said.



http://cpo.noaa.gov/ClimatePrograms...orces/DroughtTaskForce/CaliforniaDrought.aspx

The current drought is not part of a long-term change in California precipitation, which exhibits no appreciable trend since 1895. Key oceanic features that caused precipitation inhibiting atmospheric ridging off the West Coast during 2011-14 were symptomatic of natural internal atmosphere-ocean variability.

Model simulations indicate that human-induced climate change increases California precipitation in mid-winter, with a low-pressure circulation anomaly over the North Pacific, opposite to conditions of the last 3 winters. The same model simulations indicate a decrease in spring precipitation over California. However, precipitation deficits observed during the past three years are an order of magnitude greater than the model simulated changes related to human-induced forcing. Nonetheless, record setting high temperature that accompanied this recent drought was likely made more extreme due to human-induced global warming.

sorry but never mentioned drought, though both articles state and quote the scientists that human induced changes are very real, even if not the direct cause, of the situation/patterns you sighted

 

[Denny Crane]

sorry but never mentioned drought, though both articles state and quote the scientists that human induced changes are very real, even if not the direct cause, of the situation/patterns you sighted

You said

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/1997-vs-2015-animation-compares-el-niños-side-by-side/ar-AAdWQQe?ocid=spartandhp
warming oceans / el nino then and now obviously nothing to do with global warming

NOAA says, NOT!

Your link talks about the high pressure ridge affecting El Niño. Not global warming scam.

Typical of alarmist global warming claims.

The drought is man made, though. The government is directing vast amounts of fresh water to the ocean instead of the aqueducts that have been used to irrigate the central valleys and Southern California.

Not CO2. Bad policy.

 

[MarAzul]

Bad policy.

Spot On Denny! That and fear of building more reservoir like the farmers (and responsive governments) used to do.

Hey, I was up in NewPort OR last week with the boat. While there, I was listening to the Noaa weather forecast on the VHF radio. The warmest day in history for that day in NewPort was in 1914, 101 years ago. Come to think of it, I don't think there is a City on the Oregon coast that has it's warmest day in history in this century. Noaa keep track of this sort of thing to put out in Mariner weather info from all the cities they focus on, on the whole coastline.