Global warming, smobal warming!

[Eastoff]

http://www.livescience.com/38347-north-pole-ice-melt-lake.html

 

[Eastoff]

The Arctic hit a record low summer ice melt last year on Sept. 16, 2012, the smallest recorded since satellites began tracking the Arctic ice in the 1970s.

I think this is good though.

 

[THE HCP]

Wow, where is that? Just saw that was only over the course of 1 week!AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!

 

[Eastoff]

Wow, where is that? Just saw that was only over the course of 1 week!AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!

That is Santa's house at the North Pole. Well it is the north pole.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

that video is actually in reverse. :MARIS61:

 

[Eastoff]

that video is actually in reverse. :MARIS61:

OH GOD! Make a run for the border to Mexico!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Ice-9 has been released into the world's water supply! :MARIS61:

 

[Denny Crane]

An update

http://foto.agerpres.ro/index.php?i=7147048

 

[BlazerWookee]

An update

http://foto.agerpres.ro/index.php?i=7147048

Heheheheheh!

 

[PapaG]

DETALII FOTOGRAFIE
<< Poza precedenta Poza urmatoare >>

Titlu : ELIMINATION North Pole Lake

Caption : EDITORS, PHOTO EDITORS, AND PHOTO LIBRARIANS - PLEASE ELIMINATE AP PHOTO NY109 THAT WAS SENT ON SATURDAY, JULY 27, 2013. THE CAPTION INACCURATELY STATED THAT 'THE SHALLOW MELTWATER LAKE IS OCCURRING DUE TO AN UNUSUALLY WARM PERIOD.' IN FACT, THE WATER ACCUMULATES IN THIS WAY EVERY SUMMER. IN ADDITION, THE IMAGES DO NOT NECESSARILY SHOW CONDITIONS AT THE NORTH POLE, BECAUSE THE WEATHER BUOY CARRYING THE CAMERA USED BY THE NORTH POLE ENVIRONMENTAL OBSERVATORY HAS DRIFTED HUNDREDS OF MILES FROM ITS ORIGINAL POSITION, WHICH WAS A FEW DOZEN MILES FROM THE POLE- This frame grab provided by NOAA shows images from the wide-angle camera trained on a weather buoy maintained by the North Pole Environmental Observatory at the North Pole. The top image is a June 7, 2013 frame grab. The bottom image is a July 25, 2013 frame grab. (AP Photo/NOAA)

Global Warming Alarmists

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Barack Obama ‏@BarackObama 6h
Today @OFA supporters across the country are calling out #climate change deniers, and so can you: http://ofa.bo/woiZ4c

 

[Denny Crane]

Leadership.

http://freebeacon.com/ofa-gets-zero-attendance-for-climate-change-rally/

 

[PapaG]

Leadership.

http://freebeacon.com/ofa-gets-zero-attendance-for-climate-change-rally/

Looks like the climate was protesting the people.

[video=youtube;6YMPAH67f4o]

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

An update

http://foto.agerpres.ro/index.php?i=7147048

Nice find.

 

[jlprk]

The consensus continues to soiidify.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/16/us-climate-report-idUSBRE97F0KM20130816

 

[jlprk]

Fukushima keeps getting worse.

http://japandailypress.com/fukushima-bay-radiation-levels-highest-since-measurements-began-2034175/

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-20/why-science-and-politics-don-t-mix.html

 

[Eastoff]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-20/why-science-and-politics-don-t-mix.html

Sooo he isn't a scientist in the subject, but he is upset that other people who also aren't scientists in the subject are making a decision about the science?

 

[Denny Crane]

Sooo he isn't a scientist in the subject, but he is upset that other people who also aren't scientists in the subject are making a decision about the science?

Is that what you got from reading the article? I got something very different.

Start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism


The term is also used to highlight the possible dangers of lapses towards excessive reductionism in all fields of human knowledge

 

[Eastoff]

Is that what you got from reading the article? I got something very different.

Start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism


The term is also used to highlight the possible dangers of lapses towards excessive reductionism in all fields of human knowledge

That sounds like a bunch of Ayn Rand Truthiness.

 

[Denny Crane]

Has nothing to do with Ayn Rand, Libertarianism, or politics in general.

It's about the role and limits of science, the role of the political process, and the appropriate relationship between the two. Like, it's not up to science to demand, decide, whatever, that we take steps to reduce carbon emissions - it's a political question.

The Scientism aspect is that some scientists see everything as a question that can be resolved by scientific inquiry. They box themselves in when you see the kind of thing SPD posted recently, about redshift we perceive being due to everything growing heavier. It's a matter of perspective - we didn't measure the redshift until very recently in geological time frame - too short a time to detect things getting heavier.

Or that it's possible the speed of light changes over geologic time, which would really fuck up a big house of cards of science built on it being a constant as we know it today.

Those two questions, among many (as I see them) are outside the bounds of scientific inquiry.

 

[Masbee]

That sounds like a bunch of Ayn Rand Truthiness.

Says the guy who posted a video of the North Pole lake claiming it was proof of something.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://wx.hamweather.com/maps/climate/records/4week/us.html?cat=maxtemp,mintemp,snow,lowmax,highmin

 

[maxiep]

Why are we of the mind that the climate remains static and right now it's in the optimal position? I don't think many deny that human emissions put things like CO2 into the atmosphere at higher levels than had existed a millennia or two before. I simply question the impact of those emissions. Science has not provided a satisfactory answer on this fundamental question. There's a lot of research, and a lot of heat on this issue, but there's precious little light.

 

[bluefrog]

http://wx.hamweather.com/maps/climate/records/4week/us.html?cat=maxtemp,mintemp,snow,lowmax,highmin

Can I counter with the record temps in the Southwest this past June?

or the record heat wave in Europe this month?

or the record heat wave in Asia this month?

or possibly the record heat wave in Australia earlier this year?

When all is said and done 2013 may shape up to be the hottest on record.

 

[Denny Crane]

We had an indian summer last year. Global Warming!

 

[maxiep]

Can I counter with the record temps in the Southwest this past June?

or the record heat wave in Europe this month?

or the record heat wave in Asia this month?

or possibly the record heat wave in Australia earlier this year?

When all is said and done 2013 may shape up to be the hottest on record.

I think we all need to understand the difference between climate and weather. Furthermore, our carbon output may simply be collinearity.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

the whole correlation ≠ causation gambit is interesting. could be right, probably not though

although, while people are busy worrying about a little global warming, pretty soon there wont be clean drinking water or dirt that supports life

its pollution that is the actual problem

global warming is one of the least concerning consequences imo

 

[PapaG]

I think we all need to understand the difference between climate and weather. Furthermore, our carbon output may simply be collinearity.

"Global" versus "US" would also be a nice distinction.

 

[PapaG]

the whole correlation ≠ causation gambit is interesting. could be right, probably not though

The only way causation can be right is if you ignore that actual data.

As Carbon Dioxide Levels Continue To Rise, Global Temperatures Are Not Following Suit

New data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration show atmospheric carbon dioxide levels are continuing to rise but global temperatures are not following suit. The new data undercut assertions that atmospheric carbon dioxide is causing a global warming crisis.

NOAA data show atmospheric carbon dioxide levels rose 2.67 parts per million in 2012, to 395 ppm. The jump was the second highest since 1959, when scientists began measuring atmospheric carbon dioxide levels.

Global temperatures are essentially the same today as they were in 1995, when atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were merely 360 ppm. Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels rose 10 percent between 1995 and 2012, yet global temperatures did not rise at all. Global warming activists are having a difficult time explaining the ongoing disconnect between atmospheric carbon dioxide levels and global temperatures.

This isn’t the first time in recent years that global temperatures have disobeyed the models presented by global warming activists. From the mid-1940s through the mid-1970s, global temperatures endured a 30-year decline even as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels rose nearly 10 percent. From 1900 through 1945, by contrast, global temperatures rose rapidly despite a lack of coal power plants, SUV’s, and substantial carbon dioxide emissions.

Remarkably, global warming activists are spinning the ongoing rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, along with the ongoing lack of global temperature rise, as evidence that we are facing an even worse global warming crisis than they have been predicting.

“The amount of heat-trapping carbon dioxide in the air jumped dramatically in 2012, making it very unlikely that global warming can be limited to another 2 degrees as many global leaders have hoped,” the Associated Press reported yesterday.

Actually, the fact that temperatures remain flat even as carbon dioxide levels continue to rise is a devastating rebuke to assertions that rising atmospheric carbon dioxide levels are causing a global warming crisis.

On a related front, the NOAA data amplify the futility of imposing costly carbon dioxide restrictions on the U.S. economy in the name of fighting global warming. U.S. carbon dioxide emissions declined 10 percent during the past decade, yet global emissions rose by more than 30 percent.

Regardless of the future pace of ongoing reductions in U.S. carbon dioxide emissions, global carbon dioxide emissions will continue to rise. Even if the United States committed economic suicide by imposing all or most of the carbon dioxide restrictions advocated by global warming activists, the ensuing U.S. carbon dioxide reductions would amount to merely a drop in the bucket compared to the flood of emissions increases by the world as a whole and by developing nations such as China and India in particular.

Fortunately, as the new NOAA data show, and as global warming ‘skeptics’ have observed all along, rising carbon dioxide emissions are having only a modest impact on global temperatures and are not creating a global warming crisis.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta...e-global-temperatures-are-not-following-suit/