God damn the people I live around are fat

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I'm no featherweight. Clocked in this morning at 217. I once weighed 284. So maybe I'm like that annoying guy who quit smoking 6 weeks ago and is sanctimonious as hell.

But I took my son to a local amusement park-type bowling/lasertag place on Sunday. I felt like that kid in 6th Sense. "Everywhere I look I see fat people." The only skinny people seemed to be 16 year old boys (who can chew through 4000 calories a day like lawnmowers).

Dang, dude. This nation has really let itself go.
 
I like food more than I care about what you think of me.
 
I'm fat but working hard to change that. I was already big and then when I quit smoking I put on an additional 30LBS for a grand total of about +80 from where I should be. Rode my bike to work plus quite a bit extra today, and am trying to cut out refined flour and other bad shit like sugar, although sugar isn't my big problem. Just finished a big salad for lunch. But, when you look at me you just think fat, not hey, that fat guy is working on getting less fat. It takes a lot longer to lose weight than gain it.
 
For me, I was a rail for most of my life, and I didn't have to do anything to maintain it. Then I hit 28 and my body said, "now it's on you buddy". I'm not fat, but I'm definitely out of shape. I need to start exercising again.
 
Ya, I was always a bit fat, mocked as far back as grade school. In high school I was already dieting, playing basketball, lifting weights, and could never get better than 25LBS overweight. If you look at me, you would guess I am very out of shape, but my blood pressure is good, I bike or go to 24h fitness 5 times a week, plus a few hikes and the like. I fuck like a monster. Some people are fat cause they eat at Burgerking, others are fat cause it's just who they are. My goal is just to be a little fat. If I can get down to 210 (im 5'10") I'll be thrilled.

I'm not saying that I have no culpability, especially since quitting smoking I have eaten more. But all you naturally skinny people have got it easy. But we all get what we get.
 
For me, I was a rail for most of my life, and I didn't have to do anything to maintain it. Then I hit 28 and my body said, "now it's on you buddy". I'm not fat, but I'm definitely out of shape. I need to start exercising again.

That pretty much happened to me as well and I developed some health problems.

I had cut off a lot of the sugars, carbohydrates, and the occasionally snacking throughout the day.

Now, I have a banana and V8 every morning. Sometimes I will switch it up with oatmeal. For lunch I'll have half a sandwich, some soup and fruit. Dinner is where I'll occasionally give myself a tiny treat and splurge.

For drinks I'll have tea, water, and some watered down fruit juice.

Exercise is also a good idea even if it's walking. Also the every other day jog/run and weight lifting.
 
I'm no featherweight. Clocked in this morning at 217. I once weighed 284. So maybe I'm like that annoying guy who quit smoking 6 weeks ago and is sanctimonious as hell.

But I took my son to a local amusement park-type bowling/lasertag place on Sunday. I felt like that kid in 6th Sense. "Everywhere I look I see fat people." The only skinny people seemed to be 16 year old boys (who can chew through 4000 calories a day like lawnmowers).

Dang, dude. This nation has really let itself go.

Here is a tip:

Reinforce your drive to be healthy and normal weight by positive cues of other people that are healthy weight.

Avoid hanging around too many obese people for long periods of time. Notice where extra numbers of obese people hang. Stay away from those places.

If you are someplace (state fair, tractor pull, wall-mart, all you can eat buffet, fast-food joint, "amusement" place) take a good look. Then, run out of there screaming if the obese zombie apocalypse is at hand.

Look for where the normal and thin people are. Where do they shop? Where do they eat out? What do they do for recreation? Go there and do that.

Idaho is a beautiful place with lots of opportunity for hunting, fishing, hiking, biking, mountain biking, skiing, snoeshoeing, etc. Do that stuff. There will be lots of non-obese folks doing it along-side you and your child.

If you want to get into that line of thinking even more, choose your friends so they won't make you fat. There is evidence that:

clusters of friends appeared to “infect” each other with obesity, unhappiness and smoking. Staying healthy isn’t just a matter of your genes and your diet, it seems. Good health is also a product, in part, of your sheer proximity to other healthy people.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/magazine/13contagion-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
 
i find this post comical

find where thin people shop and shop there too? run screaming if you see a fat person? choose your friends based on their bmi?

wtf :lol:

you have issues man
 
My engineer's diet worked great for me. I lost 30 pounds in 3 months, and cut my cholesterol level from over 300 to 150.

The trick to losing and maintaining weight is to keep a journal of absolutely every bit of food or drink you put in your mouth. Get to know the nutrition values from the label on the food or look up the values online. Measure and weigh the food you eat, so you have an accurate log.

For my diet, I counted calories, fat, saturated fat, and fiber. I ate no more than 1500 calories a day. No more than 25% of my calories came from fat. No more than 6% of calories from saturated fat. At least 28 grams of fiber.

The program is that simple. If you are over 6' tall, you might go to 1700 calories or even 2000 if you're really active.

The formula to calculate calories from fat is fat (grams) * 9 (calories/gram). I provide this info so you have everything needed to follow the diet.

If you want to count sugars, carbs (are sugars), sodium, etc., then do so.

I created a form in Excel that had a wide column for description of food, and columns for each of the things I was counting. I printed out 7 at a time (per week) and religiously logged what I ate and drank.

I also tried to walk 1-2 miles a day, minimum. Any kind of exercise will help, even walking.

1500 calories may sound like you'd starve, but you won't. The trick is to figure out various recipes and combinations of meats and vegetables that fit into your budget.

For example, I ate a rather decent breakfast daily. 1/2 cup egg beaters, 1/4 cup non-fat cheese, 1/2 slice Farmer John's ham, 3/4 cup has browns, and either a (small) bagel or 2 slices of 45 calorie bread/toast or 1 fat free Eggo waffle. 400 calories.

For lunch, an apple and a sandwich on 45 calorie bread and a serving (14 chips, whatever) of baked potato chips or pringles is about 350 calories.

For dinner, 1 cup of cooked rice is 240 calories. Rice is nutrition that feeds about 2/3 of the world. A 1/2 pound boneless skinless chicken breast is only 236 calories. A 6 oz lean (top loin) pork chop is about 250 calories.

Almost all vegetables are 0 calories or very low and easy to budget. You can have a really full dinner plate if you eat lots of veggies.

And almost every day, I had a nice dessert - like a cup of fat free frozen yogurt (chocolate or strawberry) for 165 calories.

I invented quite a few recipes that fit my diet strategy. A spaghetti sauce with ground turkey and turkey italian sausage. Pizza on low calorie pita bread with turkey pepperoni.

Other tips are to get rid of all the really "bad" foods in your kitchen. By "bad," I mean those that are high in fat and calories that will only put the pounds on.

And mook, I recommend you get a gun and hunt for your own food.
 
lol. Yeah, I hunt. A lot. I logged probably 120 or so miles last fall just chukar hunting, which is just about as brutal a game bird as there comes in terms of hiking. After early-January it got really snowed in and I gave up, quit eating healthy, and I went from 198lbs to 221! lol Crazy how fast that shit added up. (I'm 6'.)

I'm not really worried about my own weight, though. I've got my techniques well dialed in for losing weight. Low carb, intermittent fasting, HIIT...I have a nice list of options that work for me. You don't drop from 284 without picking up some things. I've had my fun. Time to get back on track.

Food logging is definitely a great way to lose weight. It's such a pain in the ass it's often easier just to skip that snack. I recommend MyFitnessPal.com, though. So much easier than a spreadsheet.

I'm doing DietBet.com right now. Basically, you pony up some money (typically $20 or $30) to wager you'll lose 4% of your body weight over 4 weeks. (For me that's 8.8 pounds. No sweat. I've lost 12lbs in a month when I've really set my mind to it.) If you win you split the pot with the other winners.

I'm a big, big believer in Masbee's point about hangin' with fat people. We're all products of our environment, whether we admit it or not.

I was just kind of shocked at this particular outing because I usually hang with hunters, guys from karate, my old buddies...dudes who are mostly thinner than me. I shop at Walmart, so I guess I shouldn't have been too surprised. I guess I just hadn't spent that much time looking at my fellow humans.
 
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I kind of figured you for foraging for squirrels at the tops of trees. Or whatever vegetation is within your reach up there.
 
i find this post comical

find where thin people shop and shop there too? run screaming if you see a fat person? choose your friends based on their bmi?

wtf :lol:

you have issues man

Dude's always been over the top. Nuttier than squirrel turd.
 
Its simple. Don't eat like complete shit, but most importantly stay active. Exercise.
 
if your mom is fat, make her leave the house when you come over to do laundry
 
God the people on this board are fat. I want to marry either a cook or a nurse. Preferably I'll marry both.
 
Its simple. Don't eat like complete shit, but most importantly stay active. Exercise.

So fucking clueless.

The ramblings of self-important douche.

If it was so "simple" it wouldn't be the worldwide crisis it is.
 
So fucking clueless.

The ramblings of self-important douche.

If it was so "simple" it wouldn't be the worldwide crisis it is.

Well to be fair most don't stay active. I really stayed active until I hit about 26 and then got a desk job. Still active in the summer (playing basketball, football, etc) but much less active in the winter (unless I make it to the gym). If I went to the gym 5 days a week instead of 2 I am sure I would take off the pounds much easier.

I know there are cases were people need much more than physical activity and eating right to lose . A lot of people could benefit by the broad spectrum that MZ is spouting off on though.
 
It seems to me the food we get is bigger servings, more calories, maybe added chemicals that make food harder to process right. In the 1970s, it seems like people were pretty thin.

Something's changed that's affecting an awful lot of people. It's rather evident.
 
I don't eat that bad, my weakness is soda!!!!!

I quit drinking soda between my sophomore and junior years of HS. I was pretty thin as it was, but I dropped 12 pounds or so very quickly. Soda is one of the worst things you can do. I've had friends quit soda and drop 20-30 pounds over a couple of months. If you can drop weight that quickly just by cutting soda from your diet, it tells me soda is a very bad thing.
 
I quit drinking soda between my sophomore and junior years of HS. I was pretty thin as it was, but I dropped 12 pounds or so very quickly. Soda is one of the worst things you can do. I've had friends quit soda and drop 20-30 pounds over a couple of months. If you can drop weight that quickly just by cutting soda from your diet, it tells me soda is a very bad thing.

12 ounces of Coca Cola has the same amount of calories as a cup of orange juice. Just doesn't have any nutritional value aside from all that sugar.

I stopped drinking soda with sugar a long time ago. Sugar free actually tastes better these days and is 0 calories.
 
12 ounces of Coca Cola has the same amount of calories as a cup of orange juice. Just doesn't have any nutritional value aside from all that sugar.

I stopped drinking soda with sugar a long time ago. Sugar free actually tastes better these days and is 0 calories.

Most of the people I know that drink soda drink soda multiple times per day (as opposed to OJ, which is typically just a morning thing). It's like they're either all-in or all-out on soda. So, that's a lot of calories with no nutritional value. So if you cut soda, you cut a lot of calories out of your daily diet.

As for sugar-free soda.... it's my occasional guilty pleasure. I try to avoid even that, though. Some people say you still gain weight from diet sodas, but I've never bothered to research this and whether or not it's factual.
 
Most of the people I know that drink soda drink soda multiple times per day (as opposed to OJ, which is typically just a morning thing). It's like they're either all-in or all-out on soda. So, that's a lot of calories with no nutritional value. So if you cut soda, you cut a lot of calories out of your daily diet.

As for sugar-free soda.... it's my occasional guilty pleasure. I try to avoid even that, though. Some people say you still gain weight from diet sodas, but I've never bothered to research this and whether or not it's factual.

A good read:
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/diet-sodas-and-weight-gain-not-so-fast
 
It seems to me the food we get is bigger servings, more calories, maybe added chemicals that make food harder to process right. In the 1970s, it seems like people were pretty thin.

Something's changed that's affecting an awful lot of people. It's rather evident.

Definitely.

First, the food industry. Here's a great article in the NYT about the way the food industry has gotten more and more clever at making us eat shittier and shittier food.

I don't blame them, really. They are just trying to maximize profits. Anyway, FTA:

The public and the food companies have known for decades now — or at the very least since this meeting — that sugary, salty, fatty foods are not good for us in the quantities that we consume them. So why are the diabetes and obesity and hypertension numbers still spiraling out of control? It’s not just a matter of poor willpower on the part of the consumer and a give-the-people-what-they-want attitude on the part of the food manufacturers. What I found, over four years of research and reporting, was a conscious effort — taking place in labs and marketing meetings and grocery-store aisles — to get people hooked on foods that are convenient and inexpensive. I talked to more than 300 people in or formerly employed by the processed-food industry, from scientists to marketers to C.E.O.’s. Some were willing whistle-blowers, while others spoke reluctantly when presented with some of the thousands of pages of secret memos that I obtained from inside the food industry’s operations. What follows is a series of small case studies of a handful of characters whose work then, and perspective now, sheds light on how the foods are created and sold to people who, while not powerless, are extremely vulnerable to the intensity of these companies’ industrial formulations and selling campaigns.

Second, the FDA. On one hand they are supposed to support American agrabusiness (which is mostly high carb product-based) and on the other they are supposed to promote good eating. So you get bullshit like the food pyramid, which calls for you to eat a ridiculous amount of bread and pasta and crackers, and doesn't put nearly the emphasis on vegetables, fruits and nuts.

Third, the anti-fat campaign. Lastly, we had a major push in the late 1970's to go away from fat. In the 80's everything became low-fat. Turns out that in order to make food taste good without adding fat you have to add a lot of carbohydrates. But carbs don't make you as full, so you tend to eat more. So we might think that three cups of rice is perfectly healthy. Nevermind that it has 720 calories, which is the equivalent of 18 strips of bacon.

Add it all up and we're much, much fatter than we've ever been before.
 
You have to go cold turkey on soda, that's what i did and i very rarely drink it anymore. It's addicting, and just stopping actually makes you feel better when you have broken that addiction. I was drinking 3 or more cans a day.
 

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