God's not dead

[Denny Crane]

Guess you don't know what eternal means

But what was there before "eternal?" Of course it was the more intelligent designer!

 

[magnifier661]

But what was there before "eternal?" Of course it was the more intelligent designer!

eternal
[ iˈtərnl ]
adjective

lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning:
"the secret of eternal youth"
synonyms: everlasting · More
(of truths, values, or questions) valid for all time; essentially unchanging:
"eternal truths of art and life"

We all know comprehension is not your strong suite.

 

[Denny Crane]

eternal
[ iˈtərnl ]
adjective

lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning:
"the secret of eternal youth"
synonyms: everlasting · More
(of truths, values, or questions) valid for all time; essentially unchanging:
"eternal truths of art and life"

We all know comprehension is not your strong suite.

Time had a beginning, so you describe a mythical being that is an impossibility.

 

[magnifier661]

Time had a beginning, so you describe a mythical being that is an impossibility.

Well we are talking about my God and being eternal. Your lame attempt to argue eternity then has no relevance.

And the universe had a beginning as well, so what eternal object created it? With a beginning, there is purpose.

 

[Denny Crane]

Well we are talking about my God and being eternal. Your lame attempt to argue eternity then has no relevance.

And the universe had a beginning as well, so what eternal object created it? With a beginning, there is purpose.

Well if you can make stuff up, like there was a "time" (or something) before there actually was time, then I can use your own logic (fault) against you: there had to be a time before God's time started.

 

[magnifier661]

Well if you can make stuff up, like there was a "time" (or something) before there actually was time, then I can use your own logic (fault) against you: there had to be a time before God's time started.

Wow you are a little dense bro. The universe created time. When the universe was created, it created space and time. Anything that existed outside the universe obviously isn't bound by time. Don't you know this?

 

[Denny Crane]

Wow you are a little dense bro. The universe created time. When the universe was created, it created space and time. Anything that existed outside the universe obviously isn't bound by time. Don't you know this?

The universe didn't create time.

The rest of what you say makes no sense, either. there's no logic to it

 

[magnifier661]

The universe didn't create time.

The rest of what you say makes no sense, either. there's no logic to it

Sorry was driving through the mountains. I come back to this?!

So are you disagreeing that when the universe expanded, matter, space and time was created?

 

[Denny Crane]

Sorry was driving through the mountains. I come back to this?!

So are you disagreeing that when the universe expanded, matter, space and time was created?

Which is it? Time was created/started, or time is eternal?

Logic. Fault.

It came to be with the big bang. There is no better explanation for it as far as anyone actually knows.

Here's a great site, with this interesting topic on it:
http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter12.html

 

[magnifier661]

Which is it? Time was created/started, or time is eternal?

Logic. Fault.

It came to be with the big bang. There is no better explanation for it as far as anyone actually knows.

Here's a great site, with this interesting topic on it:
http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter12.html

Eternal has no time. They didn't start or end. But you've already proven you lost all logic in this debate when you tried to argue that something eternal was created.

As for the other nonsense, the Big Bang was the creation of the universe (matter/space/time). Nothing before that has been observed. Making a dig that I believe God did it as appose to believing in singularity, is completely contradicting.

 

[Denny Crane]

Eternal has no time. They didn't start or end. But you've already proven you lost all logic in this debate when you tried to argue that something eternal was created.

As for the other nonsense, the Big Bang was the creation of the universe (matter/space/time). Nothing before that has been observed. Making a dig that I believe God did it as appose to believing in singularity, is completely contradicting.

You call me "dense" yet you cannot wrap your mind around the nature of time. Since it did have a beginning, there is no "before." You make no logical sense again.

 

[magnifier661]

You call me "dense" yet you cannot wrap your mind around the nature of time. Since it did have a beginning, there is no "before." You make no logical sense again.

The universe as a closed system had a beginning. Therefore it had purpose, therefore something eternal created the universe. It's simple logic, but you are acting like Simple Jack "puh puh puh puhlease"

 

[magnifier661]

*edited: Please don't resort to personal attacks, thanks*

 

[Denny Crane]

The universe as a closed system had a beginning. Therefore it had purpose, therefore something eternal created the universe. It's simple logic, but you are acting like Simple Jack "puh puh puh puhlease"

See? You can't wrap your head around how time works.

It is physically impossible to observe anything before time started. You are talking nonsense. It's like asking what the score of the basketball game is before the game starts. There is no score, there has been no game.

 

[magnifier661]

See? You can't wrap your head around how time works.

It is physically impossible to observe anything before time started. You are talking nonsense. It's like asking what the score of the basketball game is before the game starts. There is no score, there has been no game.

Odd, so you don't believe in singularity? What the fuck you believe in bro? The universe just popped into existence from nothing?

Now who is the kook?! Lmao

 

[magnifier661]

Either you believe in a singularity (eternal whatever) or a conscious God said "let there be light".

Whatever the case, either one must be eternal

 

[Denny Crane]

Odd, so you don't believe in singularity? What the fuck you believe in bro? The universe just popped into existence from nothing?

Now who is the kook?! Lmao

The singularity was there at time=0. There was no time < 0.

You resort to name calling when you lose the debate. Funny.

 

[magnifier661]

The singularity was there at time=0. There was no time < 0.

You resort to name calling when you lose the debate. Funny.

Um yeah Simple Jack! Time = 0 because it's eternal! Haha

 

[magnifier661]

Let's refresh Denny here... Eternal is something that has no beginning or end.

So when I say my God is eternal then Denny said "Someone had to create God" is freaking hilarious.

 

[crowTrobot]

That's what you think love is? Really?

It's just a word, most commonly used to describe varying levels of affection/attraction for an object or empathetic bonding in a relationship.

If you think it's something that transcends that, you'll have to be more specific in you description. Otherwise I'm assuming you're just using the term non-cognitively again.

 

[magnifier661]

It's just a word, most commonly used to describe varying levels of affection/attraction for an object or empathetic bonding in a relationship.

If you think it's something that transcends that, you'll have to be more specific in you description. Otherwise I'm assuming you're just using the term non-cognitively again.

Oh okay, so love is just a word to you. Tell that to the mother that runs into a building of fire to save their child. Sorry miss, it's just a word and your child is nothing more than the emotional attachments of chemical firings in your brain.

See this is where I refute your argument. If we can observe "love" then we could manufacture pills to put you in or out of love. You believe that's possible?

 

[Denny Crane]

Um yeah Simple Jack! Time = 0 because it's eternal! Haha

Let's refresh Denny here... Eternal is something that has no beginning or end.

So when I say my God is eternal then Denny said "Someone had to create God" is freaking hilarious.

Your definition of Eternal means there never was a time=0.

 

[crowTrobot]

Oh okay, so love is just a word to you.

I use it to refer to human attraction/bonding. Again, if you think there's something else that transcends that you'll have to describe it more specifically. So far all I see is you non-cognitively referencing how the thought of "transcendent love" makes you feel without having a clear mental picture of what you mean by the concept.

Tell that to the mother that runs into a building of fire to save their child. Sorry miss, it's just a word and your child is nothing more than the emotional attachments of chemical firings in your brain.

All evidence is that everything humans experience is the result of evolved physical processes. I suspect you want there to be more meaning than that because of your anthropocentric ego, which is in itself an evolutionary adaptation.

See this is where I refute your argument. If we can observe "love" then we could manufacture pills to put you in or out of love. You believe that's possible?

It seems to happen in Hogwarts, so it must be.

 

[magnifier661]

Time zero isn't zero on the ticker of your watch. Time zero means there was no time. If something exists at time zero, that means there was no beginning for this object or entity.

 

[Denny Crane]

Time zero isn't zero on the ticker of your watch. Time zero means there was no time. If something exists at time zero, that means there was no beginning for this object or entity.

It means the opposite of what you keep posting. You just have it wrong.

time=0 is the beginning of everything, including time itself. "Before" that makes no logical sense at all.

 

[magnifier661]

I use it to refer to human attraction/bonding. Again, if you think there's something else that transcends that you'll have to describe it more specifically. So far all I see is you non-cognitively referencing how the thought of "transcendent love" makes you feel without having a clear mental picture of what you mean by the concept.

No I'm not even brining God into this debate right now. Still you haven't explained how you can prove if someone is in love.

All evidence is that everything humans experience is the result of evolved physical processes. I suspect you want there to be more meaning than that because of your anthropocentric ego, which is in itself an evolutionary adaptation.

Link please. I would like to read this evidence

 

[magnifier661]

It means the opposite of what you keep posting. You just have it wrong.

time=0 is the beginning of everything, including time itself. "Before" that makes no logical sense at all.

No the beginning is the moment of expansion (0.00000000000000000000000000000000001 second). There is no before (beginning) because before (beginning) never existed. Meaning: eternal with no beginning or end.

 

[magnifier661]

It's been fun guys but I got my daughter and our date. Talk to you later

 

[MarAzul]

Why is it no one will take the time to argue, Valkyries do not exist.

 

[barfo]

It's been fun guys but I got my daughter and our date. Talk to you later

You are double-dating with your daughter? That's a bit creepy, isn't it?

barfo