God's not dead

[Denny Crane]

Which ancient book said that?

Link

Why does an ancient book have any relevance. It's a book of fairy tales written by humans.

In fact, the archeological evidence for many of the stories prove they're not even historically accurate. Thus FICTION.

 

[magnifier661]

Why does an ancient book have any relevance. It's a book of fairy tales written by humans.

In fact, the archeological evidence for many of the stories prove they're not even historically accurate. Thus FICTION.

The bible guessed it pretty good then while everyone else thought the world was the universe

 

[Denny Crane]

The bible guessed it pretty good then while everyone else thought the world was the universe

The bible did no such thing.

I guess since it's fiction you can invent more fiction to make it say or mean whatever you want, though.

Where does the bible talk about the big bang? About expansion? About anti-matter? About formation of galaxies, or galaxies at all?

Geez, the list of omissions and errors is enormous.

Not to mention the contradicting 2nd creation myth in Genesis that tells a different story about creation via some garden of eden.

 

[magnifier661]

The bible did no such thing.

I guess since it's fiction you can invent more fiction to make it say or mean whatever you want, though.

Where does the bible talk about the big bang? About expansion? About anti-matter? About formation of galaxies, or galaxies at all?

Geez, the list of omissions and errors is enormous.

Not to mention the contradicting 2nd creation myth in Genesis that tells a different story about creation via some garden of eden.

You should read it.

 

[Denny Crane]

You should read it.

I have. I found it had some good moral stories, but it has zero relationship with reality.

If you're interested in good moral stories, there are way better sources. Like Grimm's Fairy Tales.

 

[magnifier661]

I have. I found it had some good moral stories, but it has zero relationship with reality.

If you're interested in good moral stories, there are way better sources. Like Grimm's Fairy Tales.

Grimm is cool. They are science fiction like singularity or self replicating molecules from non living matter exist

 

[Denny Crane]

Grimm is cool. They are science fiction like singularity or self replicating molecules from non living matter exist

This is your speed:

http://www.highlightskids.com/stories/leprechaun-trap

Now go ask your scientist employees if they agree with you about what is science fiction.

LOL

 

[Denny Crane]

And you know, the real question this thread should be asking is "Was God ever alive?" or did he ever exist.

 

[magnifier661]

This is your speed:

http://www.highlightskids.com/stories/leprechaun-trap

Now go ask your scientist employees if they agree with you about what is science fiction.

LOL

Yeah go ask all scientists if there is no chance God exists and see how they laugh at you. You try and act logical, but you are far from it.

You believe in things that cannot be observed yet, but mock those that do the same thing.

 

[magnifier661]

And you know, the real question this thread should be asking is "Was God ever alive?" or did he ever exist.

You wanna debate this again? I smashed you like a piñata last time.

Say when

 

[Denny Crane]

Yeah go ask all scientists if there is no chance God exists and see how they laugh at you. You try and act logical, but you are far from it.

You believe in things that cannot be observed yet, but mock those that do the same thing.

I believe in inductive reasoning, sure. That is logic. Get to know it. Then you won't be saying silly things like you do about self replicating molecules and the like.

 

[Denny Crane]

You wanna debate this again? I smashed you like a piñata last time.

Say when

You must be high on something to believe that, too.

 

[magnifier661]

I believe in inductive reasoning, sure. That is logic. Get to know it. Then you won't be saying silly things like you do about self replicating molecules and the like.

Logic? Like what?

"The singularity just popped into existence"? Lol

 

[Denny Crane]

Logic? Like what?

"The singularity just popped into existence"? Lol

That's apparently what you believe the theory is.

Good luck with that sort of logic.

 

[magnifier661]

You must be high on something to believe that, too.

Start the debate and we can see how high I am. The trouble with your fallacy is you only think black and white. Because of that, your absolute is faulty

 

[magnifier661]

That's apparently what you believe the theory is.

Good luck with that sort of logic.

Oh you didn't say that?

 

[Denny Crane]

Start the debate and we can see how high I am. The trouble with your fallacy is you only think black and white. Because of that, your absolute is faulty

You're wrong again. I see things as very grey, not black and white.

Read about inductive reasoning. Try to comprehend it.

 

[Denny Crane]

Oh you didn't say that?

Nope.

I said it was there at time=0.

It's not at all what you claim I said.

Wrong again.

 

[magnifier661]

Denny register with debate.org and we can have our arena there. Take up my challenge to debate and have the peers vote who is the winner. Let's see how good you really are

 

[magnifier661]

Nope.

I said it was there at time=0.

It's not at all what you claim I said.

Wrong again.

Hmmmmmm

It came into being (singularity) at the instant time began. Your scientist quote said that. Do you want to pick and choose what he said is right or wrong now? He's your witness.

You just admitted "poof it existed" right here.


MAGS shoots and scores! Denny tore and ACL after his ankles broke from mag's crossover

 

[MarAzul]

Nope.

I said it was there at time=0.

It's not at all what you claim I said.

Wrong again.

Time=0?? To what is that time relative? What were in the X and Y counters when time was equal to zero?

 

[magnifier661]

Time=0?? To what is that time relative? What were in the X and Y counters when time was equal to zero?

For Denny:

X = unicorn, Y = leprechaun

 

[andalusian]

Which ancient book said that?

If this comes to ancient books - there are tons of ancient books that claim things that are very different from the one you prefer - be it the four Vedas of Hinduism, the Buddhavacana for Budhism and so on and so forth.

At the end of the day it comes down to one of two - and they both support creationism

1. There was a god/gods and they created everything and specifically men-kind.

2. Men created gods when they had to explain observed phenomena and could not given their technical/scientific progress.

 

[MarAzul]

If this comes to ancient books - there are tons of ancient books that claim things that are very different from the one you prefer - be it the four Vedas of Hinduism, the Buddhavacana for Budhism and so on and so forth.

At the end of the day it comes down to one of two - and they both support creationism

1. There was a god/gods and they created everything and specifically men-kind.

2. Men created gods when they had to explain observed phenomena and could not given their technical/scientific progress.

I can't really argue with anything you said. I would note that after all this time men still can not
create life or explain how it was started. Perhaps men didn't create god but they did intuit that he is here.


Well, some men have. Some go to go to extremes telling the intuitive they can not intuit.

 

[magnifier661]

If this comes to ancient books - there are tons of ancient books that claim things that are very different from the one you prefer - be it the four Vedas of Hinduism, the Buddhavacana for Budhism and so on and so forth.

At the end of the day it comes down to one of two - and they both support creationism

1. There was a god/gods and they created everything and specifically men-kind.

2. Men created gods when they had to explain observed phenomena and could not given their technical/scientific progress.

I can 100% relate and agree with everything you said.

And what is the right answer? That is what philosophy helps to give revelation. At least you can think out of the box

 

[magnifier661]

I can't really argue with anything you said. I would note that after all this time men still can not
create life or explain how it was started. Perhaps men didn't create god but they did intuit that he is here.

Men can create life (organic) with life (organic), but they cannot create life (organic) from non life (inorganic materials).

 

[andalusian]

I can't really argue with anything you said. I would note that after all this time men still can not
create life or explain how it was started. Perhaps men didn't create god but they did intuit that he is here.

Up to 120 years ago men could not fly either. I would argue that this still falls in category #2 I mentioned above.

 

[Eastoff]

Santa Claus is not dead.

 

[Denny Crane]

Santa Claus is not dead.

There is a santa clause. There's some ancient text that says so.

 

[MarAzul]

Up to 120 years ago men could not fly either. I would argue that this still falls in category #2 I mentioned above.

Well it has been in that category for many thousands of years now. How long should take before the obvious becomes an axiom and the intuitive are deemed correct?
Within another 1000 years?