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Actually he did die

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Kris Kringle entered the US Navy on November 1, 1967, during the Vietnam War. During his military service, he achieved the grade of E3, and was discharged on October 17, 1969.


Obituary:

"Kris Kringle, formerly known as George Nobis, passed away March 10, 2003.

Mr. Kringle was well known throughout the area for his visits to veterans and children's hospitals, brightening the days of thousands of people in the Norfolk area with his portrayal of Santa Claus. Kris was the founder of Kringle Inc., a charity devoted to helping the needy and providing toys for children. He was a Vietnam veteran having served in the Navy, a member of the Disabled American Veterans and a member of the Fleet Reserve, Post 60.

The son of the late Olive and Herman Nobis, he is survived by his sisters, Margaret Gasink and Pauline Dunn and his brother, Carl Nobis, as well as four nephews, a niece and many great-nieces and -nephews.

A memorial service will be held at 11 a.m. Saturday at the David Adams Memorial Chapel, Gate 2, Norfolk Naval Station, Norfolk. The family asks that in lieu of flowers, donations be made to Toys for Tots, c/o MAG42 DET B 1430 C V TOW WAY, Naval Station, Norfolk, VA 23511-2524."

* This obituary appeared in the Virginian-Pilot on March 14, 2003, on page B8.



Family links:
Parents:
Herman Nobis (1920 - 1998)
Olive L Nobis (1921 - 1995)

Note: The shared headstone incorrectly lists Olive L. as his wife. However, Olive L. Noblis was his mother.
 
I've got better things to do with my time than post on yet another site.

Uh huh sure. Just face it, you only win in your own mind. I am willing others "educated others" to crown the winner, even if it wasn't me. You, on the other hand, don't want others to dictate your fate.

Yet another reason why your logic is deeply flawed
 
Uh huh sure. Just face it, you only win in your own mind. I am willing others "educated others" to crown the winner, even if it wasn't me. You, on the other hand, don't want others to dictate your fate.

Yet another reason why your logic is deeply flawed

hahahahahaha.

You're funny.
 
Do we have a Southern California version of Mt. Tabor? Maybe the two of you should get together at LegoLand and settle this.
 
Well it has been in that category for many thousands of years now. How long should take before the obvious becomes an axiom and the intuitive are deemed correct?
Within another 1000 years?

Why does a time frame needs to be a part of this equation?

You are basically telling me men are inferior, they can not do X, therefore Y exists.

I tell you that another men (who by your definition is inferior) said that Y exists.

The only logical answer to this is that a man (who by your definition is inferior) claims that Y exists, but since he is inferior, why should I believe him...

Godel's incompleteness theorem shows that for no system of axioms is capable of proving all the truths of that system. As applied to this discussion - you can continue to move the goal posts requesting further proofs...

I am sure that in the past when someone suggested that men can fly someone told them that if god wanted men to fly they would have made them able to, and when this thing was solved, we will go to the next one until that one is solved and so on and so forth...

At the end it really comes to one of the belief systems...
 
Even better.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/02/06/272535141/who-won-the-creation-vs-evolution-debate

In terms of who "won" the debate, the audience of Britain's Christian Today website says it was Nye, hands down. With 42,567 responses, the site's online poll finds Nye with 92 percent support, compared with 8 percent for Ham.

Oh I get it, you want to live through other people's success because you know for certain you will fail?

If you can't debate me in a playing field that is level and let the cards fall where they lie, then it's certain you aren't a man with strong convictions that you hold the keys to truth. Plain and simple
 
Oh I get it, you want to live through other people's success because you know for certain you will fail?

I think our result would be the same.

I truly do not want to watch you embarrass yourself elsewhere too.
 
I think our result would be the same.

I truly do not want to watch you embarrass yourself elsewhere too.

You always know the guy that's scared when they say shit like "I don't want to embarrass you, that's why I won't do it"
 
mags doing everything short of mimicking chicken wing flappings with his arms and yelling "bawk, bawk, bawk" like he's back in 5th grade. geez
 
mags doing everything short of mimicking chicken wing flappings with his arms and yelling "bawk, bawk, bawk" like he's back in 5th grade. geez

LOL it's true. Why would anyone that truly believes they are in the right be fearful of debating in a field that is unbiased? That's fine, Denny can rant on here where no one can really judge him.
 
mags doing everything short of mimicking chicken wing flappings with his arms and yelling "bawk, bawk, bawk" like he's back in 5th grade. geez

He's showing how to win a debate!

I really don't want to see him embarrass himself.
 
where no one can judge him? So if a site allows users to vote on who is "right" or "won" that somehow proves something? Come on man. Intelligent discussion and debate is one thing. Fearful of debating in an unbiased field? lol.
 
I looked at debate.org just now. Of the several dozen "religion vs. atheism" type subjects, the religious side might get 50% of the vote in only some of those. Biased, indeed. The US is 78% christian and the religion side loses 28% of those by "debating."

Pretty sad, actually.
 
where no one can judge him? So if a site allows users to vote on who is "right" or "won" that somehow proves something? Come on man. Intelligent discussion and debate is one thing. Fearful of debating in an unbiased field? lol.

Absolutely...
 
I looked at debate.org just now. Of the several dozen "religion vs. atheism" type subjects, the religious side might get 50% of the vote in only some of those. Biased, indeed. The US is 78% christian and the religion side loses 28% of those by "debating."

Pretty sad, actually.

So you should have nothing to fear
 
I fear for you. I don't want you to embarrass yourself.

Oh I fear you using insecure remarks like unicorns and leprechauns? Hardly? How about time 0? LMAO! Or maybe how you think singularity just popped into existence? I don't fear for you to be embarrassed. You can't say "I'm right, so that means you're wrong!"
 

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