Gonna put it out there: LMA WILL STAY.

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magnifier661 said:
Garnett wasn't a "franchise player" during his stint in Boston. They went to finals twice and won it once.
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because they had other players to get the job done - do we? and I would definitely want to see what percentage of the cap that Garnett rec'd vs what LMA will get
 
Tunchi said:
Idk what it is with LMA and his disconnect with this franchise. Memphis, clips, thunder, etc have had their core for so long but the LMA/Dame era just started and this guy is so washy I have no idea what's his problem with us.

We had one freaking healthy LMA/Dame era playoff run and this dude shows no loyalty. And don't give me that he gave us 9 years, yea he did but he had no choice we had his rights thru Restricted Free Agency, he clearly had no choice. When in fact he even bitched a few years back with wanting out.

Quite frankly he has a problem with this city when Memphis does nothing but playoff exits every single year and yet Gasol is so loyal to them. Clips loose every year and cp3 never bitches, thunder never bitch, and the list goes on
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A) You don't know for sure how LMA feels about Portland, or if he has a problem with us.
B) The history of the Clips is irrelevant since they have won since Cp3 has been there. But he sure as hell did bitch when he was in New Orleans when he forced his way out.
C) Gasol when to highschool in Memphis, so maybe he likes the city
D) You may want to wait until Westbrook and Durant are up for a new contract before you make that claim. The word is Westbrook wants to go to LA.
E) and the list goes on for players not being loyal. (See Shaq in Orlando, Kareem in Milwaukie)
 
Blazinaway said:
because they had other players to get the job done - do we? and I would definitely want to see what percentage of the cap that Garnett rec'd vs what LMA will get
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We do... Dame and Matthews are the players you are searching for
 
Well it was pretty stupid of me to make a statement off the top of my head. I really could have sworn I remembered Griffin being injured. That ginger got the best of me.
 
magnifier661 said:
Well it was pretty stupid of me to make a statement off the top of my head. I really could have sworn I remembered Griffin being injured. That ginger got the best of me.
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He was hurt (but played) the first time he was in the playoffs iirc. Other than that and what happened this season he has been very healthy.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
A) You don't know for sure how LMA feels about Portland, or if he has a problem with us.
B) The history of the Clips is irrelevant since they have won since Cp3 has been there. But he sure as hell did bitch when he was in New Orleans when he forced his way out.
C) Gasol when to highschool in Memphis, so maybe he likes the city
D) You may want to wait until Westbrook and Durant are up for a new contract before you make that claim. The word is Westbrook wants to go to LA.
E) and the list goes on for players not being loyal. (See Shaq in Orlando, Kareem in Milwaukie)
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I guess
 
Tunchi said:
Idk what it is with LMA and his disconnect with this franchise. Memphis, clips, thunder, etc have had their core for so long but the LMA/Dame era just started and this guy is so washy I have no idea what's his problem with us.

We had one freaking healthy LMA/Dame era playoff run and this dude shows no loyalty. And don't give me that he gave us 9 years, yea he did but he had no choice we had his rights thru Restricted Free Agency, he clearly had no choice. When in fact he even bitched a few years back with wanting out.

Quite frankly he has a problem with this city when Memphis does nothing but playoff exits every single year and yet Gasol is so loyal to them. Clips loose every year and cp3 never bitches, thunder never bitch, and the list goes on
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Jumping the gun a bit, aren't we?
 
The NBA fixed the lotto to make the Lakers a more desirable destination. Who do you think the target is if not LMA?
 
Lakers likely picking a big, less likely that Aldridge will go there now. Not out of the picture, but it probably isn't the focus.
 
Vinnie the pinch in Las Vegas wants to meet you
 
oldmangrouch said:
The NBA fixed the lotto to make the Lakers a more desirable destination. Who do you think the target is if not LMA?
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Kevin Love. Westbrook will join him there in a year, to take over after Kobe retires. The Bruins will reunite, forming a big three with Jahlil Okafor (a name autocorrect changes to Kahlua Plague, incidentally), beginning the next Laker dynasty.

It is written.
 
Lebron and Kobe playing together on the same team.
 
I was actually pretty firm that LMA would stay but for some odd reason the closer and closer we get to free agency I have a feeling he's gone.

It's just the vibe nationally, locally on radio, even here in this site that's it's almost a foregone conclusion he's out. The talk is pretty much set around the post LMA era and who to target and what not.

I just believe where there's smoke there's fire. It's just too much sources confirming he's most likely out. When this happened with Dwight, it came true, when it happened with Love, it came true, Lebron leaving Cleveland, it came true and this has that same exact vibe with LMA..
 
Tunchi said:
I was actually pretty firm that LMA would stay but for some odd reason the closer and closer we get to free agency I have a feeling he's gone.

It's just the vibe nationally, locally on radio, even here in this site that's it's almost a foregone conclusion he's out. The talk is pretty much set around the post LMA era and who to target and what not.

I just believe where there's smoke there's fire. It's just too much sources confirming he's most likely out. When this happened with Dwight, it came true, when it happened with Love, it came true, Lebron leaving Cleveland, it came true and this has that same exact vibe with LMA..
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Most of these "sources" also claim the Spurs can keep everyone and just trade Splitter for crumbs and sign Aldridge..
Heres something explaining the SA situation correctly: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015...an-sign-lamarcus-aldridge-while-also-bringing

So where that is he gonna go? If he goes to Dallas they will have no PG or C. And if Ellis opts out they would likely have to lose him too. I don't see LA going home just to go home to a lottery team.

I don't see him going to a losing franchise with the one of the most ball dominant, overpaid players in the league (Knicks, Lakers)... Where else would he go? No where. So don't trust the "sources" because there was also "sources" talking about how Wes and LA would both go to Boston even though the cap makes it impossible...
 
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LMA could end the debate with one statement. He has studiously avoided doing so. Tough not to connect the dots.
 
BonesJones said:
Most of these "sources" also claim the Spurs can keep everyone and just trade Splitter for crumbs and sign Aldridge..
Heres something explaining the SA situation correctly: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015...an-sign-lamarcus-aldridge-while-also-bringing

So where that is he gonna go? If he goes to Dallas they will have no PG or C. And if Ellis opts out they would likely have to lose him too. I don't see LA going home just to go home to a lottery team.

I don't see him going to a losing franchise with the one of the most ball dominant, overpaid players in the league (Knicks, Lakers)... Where else would he go? No where. So don't trust the "sources" because there was media taking about how Wes and LA would go to Boston even though the cap makes it impossible...
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He can easily sign for one year with the Spurs on a reduced deal and just sign for the max next year with them since they'll have his bird rights they can give him the most.. There's not ONE article recently indicating LMA is even remotely staying from "sources" it's not looking good is all I'm saying.

Most likely the guy is outta here he just doesn't give u the vibe he wants to be here and thats fine he never seemed genuinely happy here anyways. He always made it pretty clear the situation needed to BE PERFECT and all sorts of stars aligning in the universe for him to stay.
 
Tunchi said:
He can easily sign for one year with the Spurs on a reduced deal and just sign for the max next year with them since they'll have his bird rights they can give him the most.. There's not ONE article recently indicating LMA is even remotely staying from "sources" it's not looking good is all I'm saying.

Most likely the guy is outta here he just doesn't give u the vibe he wants to be here and thats fine he never seemed genuinely happy here anyways. He always made it pretty clear the situation needed to BE PERFECT and all sorts of stars aligning in the universe for him to stay.
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You realize you have to pay somewhere for 3 years to get bird rights... Right? So they couldn't go over the cap to sign him next year and after extending Kawhi and Green they won't have enough room. And the "stars would have to align" for them to even have over $15M in cap this summer while keeping their key guys. He's really gonna pass up that much money for that? Wrong. You have no clue...
 
Tunchi said:
He always made it pretty clear the situation needed to BE PERFECT and all sorts of stars aligning in the universe for him to stay.
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No he hasn't.

Previously he as said he didn't want to go through a 3rd rebuild. If that was the direction the franchise was going to go in he would rather be traded.

LMA has never said anything about it has to "BE PERFECT" for him to stay in Portland.
 
oldmangrouch said:
LMA could end the debate with one statement. He has studiously avoided doing so. Tough not to connect the dots.
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He wouldn't do that because he "wants to be wanted" and because he's gonna enjoy finally having national attention on him.
 
BonesJones said:
Heres something explaining the SA situation correctly: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015...an-sign-lamarcus-aldridge-while-also-bringing
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Enlightening, thanks for posting.

oldmangrouch said:
LMA could end the debate with one statement. He has studiously avoided doing so. Tough not to connect the dots.
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You're right, he could, and selfishly I wish he would. But if you were him, one of the ten best players in the world and for the first time in your career you're a free agent, why shut any doors before you have to? You've got to at least look around. Hopefully he'll weight his choices and decide to stay.
 
noknobs said:
Enlightening, thanks for posting.



You're right, he could, and selfishly I wish he would. But if you were him, one of the ten best players in the world and for the first time in your career you're a free agent, why shut any doors before you have to? You've got to at least look around. Hopefully he'll weight his choices and decide to stay.
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Logic befalls some people in this lust for instant gratification society some think we need to live in and by.
 
Strenuus said:
Logic befalls some people in this lust for instant gratification society some think we need to live in and by.
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Aren't you just a ray of sunshine. Always nice to see our mods show respect to other poster's opinions and feelings. :smiley-klap1: If by "lust for instant gratification" you mean "not enthusiastic for yet another rebuild", you have me cold.
 
BonesJones said:
Most of these "sources" also claim the Spurs can keep everyone and just trade Splitter for crumbs and sign Aldridge..
Heres something explaining the SA situation correctly: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015...an-sign-lamarcus-aldridge-while-also-bringing
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The one thing I was not clear on from reading that article was how much money the Spurs would have if they traded Splitter for cap space AND renounced the rights to Gianobli. (or if he retired) The article was based on keeping the " big 4" and signing LA. But Manu looked really old during the playoffs and his cap hold was 10 million. If I were SA I would let him go, or better yet tell him to take the first 3 months of the season off, work as an assistant coach, and if he wanted to play after the trade deadline....add him for the minimum.

Is any other team really going to give him 5-7 million?
 
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