Good Industries to get into now, post election (aka butthurt republicans part 4)

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What are some good industries, knowing the current makeup and direction of the country?

I think one thing that will look extremely attractive now is outsourcing. With the increased cost of hiring and retaining and insuring employees, outsourcing will have a boom. Companies looking to avoid having to hire full time employees may benefit from hiring firms that provide basic services. Granted you can't replace physical workers, but a lot of research, editing, etc jobs can be done out of the country for a fraction of the cost.

Also related to this, is companies that support "consultants" or those who work part time or have their own business. Things like secretarial answering services that make it seem like they have a legitimate business.

Services that cater to those who are on the government dole are also good. You have to find a service that for say, a set fee per month, you do something simple for them that they are too lazy to do. Like fill out paperwork for government benefits, find out what welfare programs they are eligible for, etc. Setting up pre-paid mobile phones, etc. Maybe a blog how to get government benefits, or one of those scammy "e-books".

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[donkiez]

Skilled labor jobs especially in the technology industry are good. You can build stuff cheaper in other countries but you still need the IP security offered by the US, as well as the R&D that comes from US money and employees with degrees.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Skilled labor jobs especially in the technology industry are good. You can build stuff cheaper in other countries but you still need the IP security offered by the US, as well as the R&D that comes from US money and employees with degrees.

But the costs are much higher and will probably rise. Plus you have to deal with unions. I mean what specifically. None of the mobile devices are made here...most of that skilled labor is FoxConn.

...semiconductors maybe? There are a few of those plants in the Portland area, but I think skilled labor jobs will be phased out.

 

[donkiez]

But the costs are much higher and will probably rise. Plus you have to deal with unions. I mean what specifically. None of the mobile devices are made here...most of that skilled labor is FoxConn.

...semiconductors maybe? There are a few of those plants in the Portland area, but I think skilled labor jobs will be phased out.

Assembling mobile devices is not a skilled labor job. Semiconductors is a good example though. The industry moves so fast and there is so much competiton that IP and R&D are extremly important. Semiconductors already outsource what they can, a lot of assembly and testing is done in Malaysia, and old technology is done in China already. New technology is a big deal though and Intel has recently annouced even more expansion to their world class factorys in Hillsboro, essentially doubling what they planned to do. They are litterlly pumping billions of dollars into their Hillsboro plants right now.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

While it sounds like you guys think this is all magically changing now, the skilled labor business has been steadily shrinking since the 90's. Design engineering (electrical and mechanical), computer programming (used to be "web design" but now the the genres have basically merged), business intelligence and analysis, project management... these are all growth still.

American firms still design their products, manage the projects around creating them, support the software, build the analytics engines and report on the data. The company I work for has been steadily growing since 2002 in these areas above by providing these services to companies that have weaknesses in one or more of the areas.

I'm no 1099 contractor. I'm a W-2 employee with a great health plan, 401K with compulsory matching, and other generous perks. These are not going away, because our company is run well by leadership that doesn't react to political changes like the world is suddenly ending.

 

[donkiez]

I also should add that most technology companies are not unionized. Unions are outdated and for the most part these companies pay well, offer better benifits and working condtions, and give more bonuses because they dont have to deal with unions.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Any gardening or restaurant kitchen job would be good to get into now before the illegals all get them

 

[HailBlazers]

1.) Government

2.) Government

3.) Government

 

[donkiez]

Fitness and nutrition are also growing industries in the US becuase of all the fatties.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

1.) Government

2.) Government

3.) Government

Dunno if that's such a good idea... yeah I know the source but:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/government-employment/

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I hear large penis websites are all the rage in Minnesota.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I hear large penis websites are all the rage in Minnesota.

Especially since they can go condomless, unlike California.

 

[Denny Crane]

Any job handing out or spending govt. money.

 

[Eastoff]

anti-psychotics

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Tax accounting?

 

[jlprk]

You don't see wood or metal anymore. Son, study plastics.

 

[jlprk]

I see only a question mark, probably made of wood, so let's try this one.

 

[Denny Crane]

You're inserting a video using the "insert image" tool.

Tool.

 

[jlprk]

This is the first time you have ever proven me wrong. I will leave everything as is as a monument to the greatest victory of your life.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

anti-psychotics

Hyuk hyuk... but Biotech is a great way to go, especially in areas surrounding geriatrics, because of the giant constipated turd of baby boomers slowly falling apart. My wife works for a pacemaker company... growth industry.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Tax accounting?

Depends what truly happens with the tax system. With a lot of breaks expiring, it's going to be complicated this year, unless Obama decides to let things expire and he simplifies the system.

 

[Denny Crane]

Tax accounting won't be necessary once everyone writes a check to the government for everything they have and make.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Alcohol. Find a skilled position in the alcohol industry. Alcohol consumption is increasing, especially wine and spirits. I believe beer consumption is down.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

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[BLAZER PROPHET]

What are some good industries, knowing the current makeup and direction of the country?

I think one thing that will look extremely attractive now is outsourcing. With the increased cost of hiring and retaining and insuring employees, outsourcing will have a boom. Companies looking to avoid having to hire full time employees may benefit from hiring firms that provide basic services. Granted you can't replace physical workers, but a lot of research, editing, etc jobs can be done out of the country for a fraction of the cost.

Also related to this, is companies that support "consultants" or those who work part time or have their own business. Things like secretarial answering services that make it seem like they have a legitimate business.

Services that cater to those who are on the government dole are also good. You have to find a service that for say, a set fee per month, you do something simple for them that they are too lazy to do. Like fill out paperwork for government benefits, find out what welfare programs they are eligible for, etc. Setting up pre-paid mobile phones, etc. Maybe a blog how to get government benefits, or one of those scammy "e-books".

Temp employees are becoming popular in many sectors. A temp employee business may be good to run.

 

[Eastoff]

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WTF! I want my 4 minutes back!

 

[maxiep]

These are not going away, because our company is run well by leadership that doesn't react to political changes like the world is suddenly ending.

Nice shot. For a smart guy, you are pretty stupid if you think our decision wasn't well considered. We had discussed it for over a year. Also, your position that your company exists to provide a living for you and your employees tells me all I need to know about your economic literacy.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Nice shot. For a smart guy, you are pretty stupid if you think our decision wasn't well considered. We had discussed it for over a year. Also, your position that your company exists to provide a living for you and your employees tells me all I need to know about your economic literacy.

And you say Obama is intellectually lazy. So many assumptions you're making about me out of a few sentences. My position was never that my employer is here to give me a job. That's reaching pretty hard.

The company I work for exists to bill clients. I have a job because I let the company bill clients and do my job well enough for them to like it. But my company isn't afraid of treating employees like people. When there's no work for a few weeks, no client in the pipeline that needs my skills, I don't bill and I have to learn a new skill to get the work. I get that. I've done that. I've acquired seven different job titles in six years, all things I can do to bill clients, because I work my ass off to learn a new skill so my company can bill me out to a client. And I love it. It's exciting. It's intellectually stimulating. It's not for everyone, but it is for me. I wouldn't do this job if I thought my entitlement was to hang around the office chatting to Janice and collecting my salary.

What's interesting about the company I work for is that the work we're doing gives them enough of a margin to provide perks for us while still offering a good wage. So it can be done. And the people are genuinely nice to work for, so there's that too. Good folks, etc.

I don't know how to communicate to you my position because you're doing a bunch of between-the-lines reading and assuming about me. But if you think I feel entitled to my job and "free stuff" or whatever the latest talking point is, you can fuck off.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

WTF! I want my 4 minutes back!

It's....It's complex

 

[maxiep]

And you say Obama is intellectually lazy. So many assumptions you're making about me out of a few sentences. My position was never that my employer is here to give me a job. That's reaching pretty hard.

The company I work for exists to bill clients. I have a job because I let the company bill clients and do my job well enough for them to like it. But my company isn't afraid of treating employees like people. When there's no work for a few weeks, no client in the pipeline that needs my skills, I don't bill and I have to learn a new skill to get the work. I get that. I've done that. I've acquired seven different job titles in six years, all things I can do to bill clients, because I work my ass off to learn a new skill so my company can bill me out to a client. And I love it. It's exciting. It's intellectually stimulating. It's not for everyone, but it is for me. I wouldn't do this job if I thought my entitlement was to hang around the office chatting to Janice and collecting my salary.

What's interesting about the company I work for is that the work we're doing gives them enough of a margin to provide perks for us while still offering a good wage. So it can be done. And the people are genuinely nice to work for, so there's that too. Good folks, etc.

I don't know how to communicate to you my position because you're doing a bunch of between-the-lines reading and assuming about me. But if you think I feel entitled to my job and "free stuff" or whatever the latest talking point is, you can fuck off.

I'm happy to fuck off, but I stand by my statement. I don't know why you deleted your previous post to which I referred, but there was a sentence in there that pointed directly to my point--that you employer exists to provide you a job. That's fundamentally wrong. They exist to provide a return to their investors.

Golly, I think it's great you're a hard worker. Bully for you. Just remember, you started this with your little shot at the decision our firm made. I think it's pretty funny that you don't work for yourself, you haven't hired anyone, you haven't provided returns to investors that allowed them to make other investments and achieve their dreams. Yet you feel entitled to take shots from the peanut gallery. Go ahead. The view from the cheap seats must be nice.