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zagsfan20 said:
Maybe the most ghetto place I've ever driven through. Up there with MLK Blvd. in Oakland.
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awesome strip clubs! that's all I saw there really. just crossed that bridge and hung a right. I had a blast in St. Louis though...the Landing was fun as hell to drink and party. I was there for a few days, St. Louis didn't seem as ghetto as people made it out to be but maybe I didn't go to the right hoods.
 
"THE" said:
The Midwest in general is horrible. Chicago is the ONLY exception. Trust me when I say, we are lucky to call Portland and the west coast home.
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Minneapolis isn't THAT bad for 9 months of the year. I do agree with your point, though.

Milwaukee - shitsville
Indianapolis - turdtown
Cleveland - please, just slit my wrists
Cincinnatti -it's like God took a dump, and out popped Cincy

Denver is a pretty nice city, but I guess I don't consider it 'midwest'. It and Salt Lake are 'mountain' in my mind.
 
santeesioux said:
HCP what would you say are the worst nba cities since you go to all of them? Places like SLC and OKC just seem terrible.
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Top few in no certain order........

NYC-Obviously
San Francisco
Chicago
Boston
Toronto-Feels like you are in Europe
LA
Miami
D.C.


Bottom few-

Memphis- Other then Beale St., it just feels dirty! Luckily we stay right across from the arena.
New Orleans- Feels like a 3rd world country, no joke! The only town I've ever been to that I don't feel safe in.
OKC
SLC
Milwaukee
Indy
Cleveland

The last 3 are awful! Detroit didn't make the list because we never actually go into the city. We are 50 miles out in the suburbs!
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
awesome strip clubs! that's all I saw there really. just crossed that bridge and hung a right. I had a blast in St. Louis though...the Landing was fun as hell to drink and party. I was there for a few days, St. Louis didn't seem as ghetto as people made it out to be but maybe I didn't go to the right hoods.
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St. Louis isn't that ghetto (well most parts) and I mostly hang in the suburbs when I go back. Its E. St. Louis which is on the Illinois side that is ghetto. Most of it is boarded up Section 8 housing and a white guy there sticks out like a sour thumb. St. Louis though is awesome, nothing better than going to a Cardinals game at Busch, especially when they're playing the Cubbies.
 
BGrantFan said:
I used to go to St. Louis for work. I'd go to a floating casino on the east side of the river. We called it the life boat, because we feared for our lives trying to get to it.
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When I was young my parents use to always go on that. I think you board it kinda by the Arch, it was a long time ago though so I might be wrong.
 
mobes23 said:
I'm guessing Clay tries to throw some money at the players a little early in order lock em up longer. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
I think Durant would be crazy to stay, but I also thought Malone would leave the Jazz.
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Durant punking Clay would be the best redemption, Please God don't let him re-sign there.
 
BGrantFan said:
Do you guys stay in SF, or are you in the East Bay?

Also, when playing the Nets, does you guys still stay in NYC, or do you dwell in the swamplands?
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Downtown SF and The MeadowLands! Next year we will be in Newark cause they are playing in a different arena.
 
"THE" said:
I worked in Tulsa for about 10 days a couple summers ago in August. 100+ with 95% humidity. Let's just say I don't very many fond memories of your town.
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July and August and the only two months of the year the wind isn't blowing 20 mph here. But the weather is only part of the reason why Oklahoma blows.
 
Detroit is flat out rough, but of course the Pistons play in the 'burbs. Won't ever forget when I went to see old Tiger Stadium right before the last game was played there. The second the game was over, I hopped a cab and headed to the airport. The cabbie asked where I lived and I said in Seattle. He said, "you don't mean IN Seattle, do you?" He couldn't even picture anyone ever choosing to live in a city. City life to him was Detroit and everyone wanted out badly.
 
mobes23 said:
Detroit is flat out rough, but of course the Pistons play in the 'burbs. Won't ever forget when I went to see old Tiger Stadium right before the last game was played there. The second the game was over, I hopped a cab and headed to the airport. The cabbie asked where I lived and I said in Seattle. He said, "you don't mean IN Seattle, do you?" He couldn't even picture anyone ever choosing to live in a city. City life to him was Detroit and everyone wanted out badly.
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http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155162
 
OKC may suck, but from the perspective of a young African American player that is employed in a winter league, Portland might actually be 'worse' (nightlife mostly sucks here, little cultural diversity, lilly white, miserable weather for pretty much the duration of the season ...)

I don't think they'll have any more trouble attracting free agents than the Blazers do; as long as the price is right and they have a shot at winning (having a future MVP candidate in Durant helps).
 
Nikolokolus said:
OKC may suck, but from the perspective of a young African American player that is employed in a winter league, Portland might actually be 'worse' (nightlife mostly sucks here, little cultural diversity, lilly white, miserable weather for pretty much the duration of the season ...)

I don't think they'll have any more trouble attracting free agents than the Blazers do; as long as the price is right and they have a shot at winning (having a future MVP candidate in Durant helps).
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A winning tradition helps with FA's more than anything else. I also think a lot players around the league would prefer playing for McMillan over Scotty Brooks. Having Paul Allen as an owner also has a few perks as well.
 
MIXUM said:
examples??? why is okc so bad???? gloomy wether..always cloudy? looks like northeast in november year round??? nothing to do? people suck? no beaches??? bad radio???
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the only music they have is techno, it is a cultural wasteland.
 
yuyuza1 said:
http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/11/am...cities-business-beltway-miserable-cities.html
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I live in one of the top five cities on that list. While it is no San Francisco, it does have a symphony, a nationally ranked engineering school and a campus of one of the top public universities in the nation, an institute of arts with paintings by Picasso, several Impressionists and other artists even you plebs will have heard of, AND an institute of music with a junior orchestra and where my kid is currently learning bassoon. I say Forbes can go suck a big one. And they can go live in Conway, Arkansas, where I have lived before, where I would never ever live again, and which is not on that list.

Agree about Memphis, though. That place is WAY overrated.
 
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