Gotta Go!

[blue9]

First guys to get rid of (ASAP):
Stotts
Turner

Next guys to move (before training camp):
Aminu
Ed

Move these guys by the 2018 draft (but sooner if possible):
Crabbe
Meyers

 

[KingSpeed]

Keep Aminu.

 

[BigGameDamian]

You can throw (I don't play with a sense of urgency) Harkless in there too.

 

[blue9]

You can throw (I don't play with a sense of urgency) Harkless in there too.

Anyone else outside of Dame, CJ, and Nurk can go, too - but these are the guys that HAVE to go. I won't be upset if Harkless and Vonleh are on the team next season, of if they're on another team.

 

[ripcityboy]

I have no idea what will happen. They need to take stock of the front office and coaching staff before they decide on an any offseason action. It's obvious that wholesale changes

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm so relieved that nobody is jumping to conclusions.

 

[BonesJones]

Who needs to go?
Aminu, McGowen, Crabbe, Leonard, Stotts, Harkless, Davis, Olshey, Turner, Quarterman, Colabro, Connaughton, Hurd, Layman.

 

[Chris Craig]

Who needs to go?
Aminu, McGowen, Crabbe, Leonard, Stotts, Harkless, Davis, Olshey, Turner, Quarterman, Colabro, Connaughton, Hurd, Layman.

In that order?

 

[julius]

First guys to get rid of (ASAP):
Stotts
Turner

Next guys to move (before training camp):
Aminu
Ed

Move these guys by the 2018 draft (but sooner if possible):
Crabbe
Meyers

A set of 3 lists that doesn't have Meyers 1st in each is an invalid list.

 

[julius]

I'm so relieved that nobody is jumping to conclusions.

This is historically the time when well thought out, logical, rationale and calm responses are burned at the stake.

 

[craigehlo]

Worst NBA Contracts list. There's not a player I'd hesitate to trade Meyers for. Including Chandler Parsons.

http://hoopshype.com/2017/04/20/these-were-the-best-and-worst-contracts-in-the-nba-this-season/

 

[Rhal]

I'm all for pretty much bringing back only Dame/CJ/Nurk but there isn't anyone who I want off the team so badly i'd be willing to give up assets, that aren't 2nd rounders, to get them off the team. Its not like if we can get ride of Turner we suddenly have cap space ect.
As for Stotts i'm not opposed to firing him but they better have had a coach lined up for awhile and not just doing it to fire him to fire him.

 

[Minstrel]

First guys to get rid of (ASAP):
Stotts
Turner

Next guys to move (before training camp):
Aminu
Ed

Move these guys by the 2018 draft (but sooner if possible):
Crabbe
Meyers

Sure to any of them (though I think Davis is fine, if this season was a fluke bad season). How many are trade-able? In my opinion, Davis and maybe Aminu. Neither opens up that much salary space (which is one reason both are trade-able).

 

[BonesJones]

Sort these guys out into 3 sections: Could Get Assets (like a late 1st), Could Give Away For Free, and Must Attach Assets

Crabbe, Moe, MyLe, Aminu, Davis, ET

Here's mine:

Could Get Assets:
Crabbe
Harkless

Could Give Away For Free:
Aminu
Davis

Must Attach Assets:
Turner
Leonard

So maybe we could send Leonard and Crabbe to Brooklyn, and Turner and Harkless to Sacramento, and give away Aminu and Davis.

Wed have $40M in cap space afterwards.

 

[craigehlo]

Someone call the Magic ASAP. Aminu and Harkless were on their accidentally leaked target list for the summer.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/orland...-free-agency-and-trade-targets-154006811.html

 

[Minstrel]

Could Get (Very Minor) Assets
Harkless
Davis

Could Give Away Free
Aminu

Must Attach Assets
Crabbe
Turner
Leonard

By very minor assets, I mean a second-rounder for Davis, maybe a late first or a pick-swap for Harkless.

 

[roroyo]

There is one thing you seem to forget about. SAME team was rather good with Nurk in it. For all season long (even during his "bonus adventure") Harkless was hardly a goner.

I would like some of them gone but what we can get back? Easy targets we can get rite now are Betula Pendula, Pinus Nigra and maybe Acer Palmatum.

And I'm on the boat "if Miles Plumly gave back something so can Mayers".

I think Turner is really awkward fit for this team and it's awkward for him too.

 

[0-Our!]

I'm so relieved that nobody is jumping to conclusions.

Some ppl may have but I haven't (or @ least I don't think I have; I've felt the following way for > a month). Everyone can go/be traded except Dame, Nurk, Vonleh, & Napier. I'd like to keep Turner, Moe, & Layman; everyone else & picks should be used to get what we need but IF we have to (I like CJ BUT I'd rather lose CJ vs any of these 3 guys bc IF we gave up CJ, that should get us who we want or @ least most of the way there & then what we add to the deal wouldn't have to b 1 of these 3) use any of these 3 guys I've just mentioned to get a deal done, so be it.

My 1st choice has always been to bring in is Jimmy Butler (I've said this all season & beyond) & what we would have to give up to get him would be @ least CJ + whatever. Jimmy fits us! With Dame, Nurk, AND Jimmy... Damn! Jimmy fills in all the gaps we're missing, brings crazy versatility, strength, & heart @ that position(s) AND enhances our team in every way! Jimmy is a leader, he's NOT THE leader (he's proven this in Chi., this is why when he's the leader, they can't make it all the way); w/ us, Dame IS our leader & Jimmy can be the ultimate sidekick (though I'd really look @ him as being more of another leader that just defers to Dame most of the time & steps up/in to lead when necessary).

2nd choice would be Paul George (Jimmy is a better fit in every way for us vs. George AND Jimmy is less an injury risk vs. George); I'd only go after George IF we strike out on Jimmy, I think now is the time that Chi. would be most willing to trade Jimmy (w/ losing Rondo in the playoffs & how the team goes w/ just Jimmy & Wade or whatever out there; I'm gonna guess Jimmy is fed up w/ being the ONLY guy that can do anything out there, he joins us & his life/winning get a whole lot better!). George IMO, is the easier target to acquire especially after just getting swept by the Cavs.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

I'm so relieved that nobody is jumping to conclusions.

We all got these for Christmas:

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Harkless plays really well off Nurkic. We need a shooter but that is more because our offense calls for one. I like Stotts but it is much easier to change our offense (preferably) or even ultimately the coach (down the line) then to get rid of as many players as everyone wants to because they don't fit right.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

This is historically the time when well thought out, logical, rationale and calm responses are burned at the stake.

BURN THIS MOTHERFUCKER AT THE STAKE

 

[BigGameDamian]

Harkless plays really well off Nurkic. We need a shooter but that is more because our offense calls for one. I like Stotts but it is much easier to change our offense (preferably) or even ultimately the coach (down the line) then to get rid of as many players as everyone wants to because they don't fit right.

Dude...No more excuses for Harkless!

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Dude...No more excuses for Harkless!

Uh, ok. Not sure where the excuse was but...

Harkless is one of the last people that need excuses on our team outside of our big 3. It is a cluster F all around him.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Here's a post from Sactown Royalty (the Kings' version of Blazers Edge) talking about the possibility of trades that would be of value for us. Suggests that they might be interested in Leonard in a salary dump, as well as possibly a trade-back (10 for 15/26). Also 205 comments worth of Kings fan reactions, so perhaps worth a look for an outsider's perspective.

 

[tlongII]

Aminu is the only one I really want out of here. He is not an NBA player. Everyone else has possibilities.

 

[Reep]

Hmmm. Not sure I see the logic here. I'm also guessing most of you do not invest in the stock market.

Stotts: when Nurk was healthy Stotts was coach of the month and both offense and defense looked amazing. Can't imagine a scenario where he isn't given another year to see if he can make that work for a whole year.

Biebs and Crabbes: I'm frustrated by both also. But, you don't increase the overall value of the team by having a fire sale of players at their low point. Crabbe was having a great year up until the playoffs--give him some time to rebound. Biebs is a tall athletic guy who can shoot--no, I don't want him on the team long term--but, I would like to see him play without a busted shoulder and hip, at least to increase his trade value to someone who thinks he has potential.

Some of you guys want to turn us into the Orlando Magic.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Hmmm. Not sure I see the logic here. I'm also guessing most of you do not invest in the stock market.

Stotts: when Nurk was healthy Stotts was coach of the month and both offense and defense looked amazing. Can't imagine a scenario where he isn't given another year to see if he can make that work for a whole year.

Biebs and Crabbes: I'm frustrated by both also. But, you don't increase the overall value of the team by having a fire sale of players at their low point. Crabbe was having a great year up until the playoffs--give him some time to rebound. Biebs is a tall athletic guy who can shoot--no, I don't want him on the team long term--but, I would like to see him play without a busted shoulder and hip, at least to increase his trade value to someone who thinks he has potential.

Some of you guys want to turn us into the Orlando Magic.

I would disagree with your assertion about Crabbe having a great year. He shot well from 3. Aside from that, no. Now I wouldn't attach a pick to ship him off for nothing. However if there's a team out there interested in bringing him in for a small return (a pick or a younger, unproven player), I'd definitely be intrigued.

As for Leonard, I believe that his presence on the roster hurts the team, both in a present and future sense. Or in the terms you used, while I'd like him to be able to increase his trade value, I think it's more likely that any other player in that slot would appreciate in value more than Leonard will in the same amount of time. Sometimes, you have to simply accept the sunk cost of a devalued asset and divest yourself thereof rather than allow the asset to continue to depreciate. IMO, that's where we're at with Leonard. If we could somehow convince the Kings to give us Koufos in exchange for Leonard and a pick (for example), I think it would be a great move for the franchise.

 

[Reep]

I would disagree with your assertion about Crabbe having a great year. He shot well from 3. Aside from that, no. Now I wouldn't attach a pick to ship him off for nothing. However if there's a team out there interested in bringing him in for a small return (a pick or a younger, unproven player), I'd definitely be intrigued.

As for Leonard, I believe that his presence on the roster hurts the team, both in a present and future sense. Or in the terms you used, while I'd like him to be able to increase his trade value, I think it's more likely that any other player in that slot would appreciate in value more than Leonard will in the same amount of time. Sometimes, you have to simply accept the sunk cost of a devalued asset and divest yourself thereof rather than allow the asset to continue to depreciate. IMO, that's where we're at with Leonard. If we could somehow convince the Kings to give us Koufos in exchange for Leonard and a pick (for example), I think it would be a great move for the franchise.

I think we are pretty much on the same page on Crabbe. My point is he sucked in the playoffs, and better value may be had before the trade deadline. Otherwise we have to tie a bone around his neck to get the dog to play with him.

On Leonard, you may be right, and if we could get pennies on the dollar for him I would be open to that. I just don't think we need to pay someone a first round pick to get him off the team this summer (same dog and bone analogy as Crabbe).

I see several people ready to drop a first round pick just to get Biebs and Crabbe off the team. I think that is a mistake. But, I would happily take a less established player for either of them.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Here's a post from Sactown Royalty (the Kings' version of Blazers Edge) talking about the possibility of trades that would be of value for us. Suggests that they might be interested in Leonard in a salary dump, as well as possibly a trade-back (10 for 15/26). Also 205 comments worth of Kings fan reactions, so perhaps worth a look for an outsider's perspective.

I hope their GM thinks similarly to some of their posters; they value Harkless and Leonard about the same!