Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 50...

[barfo]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

If you wish to practice medicine in the US, you're going to have to be licensed by the government.

Unlike the current situation, where anyone who wants to practice medicine can just set up shop? Hello?

The willing misunderstanding of those on the Left as to what this healthcare bill will mean for the American people is shocking.

As is your paranoid hyperbole.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

Unlike the current situation, where anyone who wants to practice medicine can just set up shop? Hello?

And they're also free to order whatever tests they wish and use their own common sense.

As is your paranoid hyperbole.

barfo

Don't blame me; blame the history of other nations that have gone down this road.

 

[barfo]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

Don't blame me; blame the history of other nations that have gone down this road.

Yes, they've all come to a bad end. Tragic, that.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

Yes, they've all come to a bad end. Tragic, that.

barfo

They have if you need agressive and timely health care.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

Unlike the current situation, where anyone who wants to practice medicine can just set up shop? Hello?

that's gotcha journalism

 

[maxiep]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

A hilarious retort

http://feministlawprofessors.com/?p=14096

 

[MrJayremmie]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

Wasn't it Science/Research that recommended this now? For women with low risk of getting breast cancer, the research said it is more beneficial for them to start the mammograms at 50.

How is this blamed on the government/Obama?

Don't Canadians come over the border to get some healthcare here in the US if the line is "too long" in Canadia?

Canadians strongly support the health system's public rather than for-profit private basis, and a 2009 poll by Nanos Research found 86.2% of Canadians surveyed supported or strongly supported "public solutions to make our public health care stronger."[3][4]

A 2009 Harris/Decima poll found 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States, more than ten times as many as the 8% stating a preference for a US-style health care system for Canada[5] while a Strategic Counsel survey in 2008 found 91% of Canadians preferring their healthcare system to that of the U.S.[6][7]. In the same poll, when asked “overall the Canadian health care system was performing very well, fairly well, not very well or not at all?” 70% of Canadians rated their system as working either "well" or "very well".[citation needed] A 2003 Gallup poll found only 25% of Americans are either "very" or "somewhat" satisfied with "the availability of affordable healthcare in the nation," versus 50% of those in the UK and 57% of Canadians. Those "very dissatisfied" made up 44% of Americans, 25% of respondents of Britons, and 17% of Canadians[8]

I think that America has the best healthcare in the world because our medical technology and doctors are unmatched. If certain Canadians have the money, they can come here to get stuff done. I'd say that FAR more come to America because of our quality rather than wait times -- the draw back of course is cost. If we could lower the cost, then that would make everyone happy.

In a Canadian National Population Health Survey of 17,276 Canadian residents, it was reported that only 0.5% sought medical care in the U.S. in the previous year. Of these, less than a quarter had traveled to the U.S. expressly to get that care.[62]

A study by Barer, et al, indicates that the majority of Canadians who seek health care the U.S. are already there for other reasons, including business travel or vacations.

1.5 million Americans out of 300 million (.5%) leave the country for medical treatment.

So Canadians like their health care better. And even though there are definitely some cases where Canadians come to America because of the long wait, I think it is greatly exaggerated. In my opinion, the problem with Canadian waiting times is this...

Although life threatening cases are dealt with immediately, some services needed are non urgent and patients are seen at the next available appointment in their local chosen facility.

The median wait time in Canada to see a special physician is a little over four weeks with 89.5% waiting less than 3 months.[41]

The median wait time for diagnostic services such as MRI and CAT scans [42] is two weeks with 86.4% waiting less than 3 months.[41]

The median wait time for surgery is four weeks with 82.2% waiting less than 3 months.[41]

I think the bolded one is the problem. I can see my physician within a week.

This is my opinion on the Canada/American health care issue. I think it is also dumb that the right attacks Canadian and British health care so much. Good for them that they have shot back at the right, defending themselves.

 

[barfo]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

The median wait time in Canada to see a special physician is a little over four weeks with 89.5% waiting less than 3 months.[41]

I think the bolded one is the problem. I can see my physician within a week.

I don't speak Canadian, so I'm not sure if I'm interpreting it right, but I would translate "special physician" to "specialist", rather than "my physician".

barfo

 

[MrJayremmie]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

Oh didn't realize that. I skimmed over it and thought it said physician. Well, that is a bit different, isn't it?

I do speak Canadian though. And British, American, Australian, Kiwi, etc...

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

Wow, this is something Hitler would do.

Not getting these exams done yearly is dangerous.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

I noticed that all of the responses to the "read up on 1930's Germany" sometime didn't have anything to say about the content.

I didn't say Obama was Hitler. I didn't say that we were Nazis. I didn't say anything except to tell you to read history, and I didn't even tell you which history to read.

Amazing the amount of disinformation being believed and spewed (by both sides)

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

I noticed that all of the responses to the "read up on 1930's Germany" sometime didn't have anything to say about the content.

I didn't say Obama was Hitler. I didn't say that we were Nazis. I didn't say anything except to tell you to read history, and I didn't even tell you which history to read.

Amazing the amount of disinformation being believed and spewed (by both sides)

As part of the general public-health campaign in Nazi Germany, water supplies were cleaned up, lead and mercury were removed from consumer products, and women were urged to undergo regular screenings for breast cancer.[60][61]

Okay so you're saying that Obama is worse than Hitler

 

[barfo]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

I noticed that all of the responses to the "read up on 1930's Germany" sometime didn't have anything to say about the content.

I didn't say Obama was Hitler. I didn't say that we were Nazis. I didn't say anything except to tell you to read history, and I didn't even tell you which history to read.

Hmm, and you figured that everyone would take a break from arguing about mammograms to read something, anything, about 1930s Germany, because you suggested it?

Read up on Joan Kroc's childhood friends.
I'm not gonna tell you why. Just do it.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

Re: Government starting to tell women they don't need breast exams if they're under 5

Okay so you're saying that Obama is worse than Hitler

What Wikipedia failed to mention was that only women of a certain genetic background were encouraged to get breast exams in Nazi Germany. But you keep on missing the point; we know it's intentional because those on the Left have little interest in discussing the real issue--personal freedom.