Great, they fired Byron Scott

[magnifier661]

I think a team that could, and should be able to acquire Paul, and would be the worst, IMO, is OKC. Lots of really young talent that may or may not fit together. They have roughly 8 million in cap space right now as well.

We have a ton of cheap talent as well. Not saying it's going to happen, but if OKL can do it, we would be able to offer better, IMO.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The current problem isn't the coach, or even the GM. It's the cash strapped owner. Shinn blew his wad when he signed Peja, Chandler and re-signed West knowing he'd also need to give Paul a max. extension. That gave them a very short window (basically one season) and now looks like it was done more to convince Paul to re-sign than to be a perennial contender.

Now he's broke again. He tried to give Chandler to the Thunder in a salary dump and that back-fired. So, now the team is losing, he's stuck with some of the worst contracts in the league and the superstar he blew his net worth to convince to stay wants out.

The problem is can the Blazers get Paul - without giving up Roy or Oden? Or, will he be the next gift wrapped superstar given to the Lakers? I think the Blazers have a lot more to offer (young, cheap talent and expiring contracts). I just hope Pritchard is willing to cut the cord on some of the guys he drafted - and is willing to eat a big contact (Peja) or two in return. Given the fact that Pritchard wanted to take Paul back in 2006, this may be the one player that would cause him to give up some of his young pets (Bayless, Batum, Rudy, etc.). It would be fitting irony if Martell Webster was involved in a trade that nets us Chris Paul in return. It would help undo John Nash's 2006 draft day blunder.

I'm not getting my hopes up, but I'd love to see a team that features Chris Paul, Brandon Roy and Greg Oden. It would be nice to keep LaMarcus, but I'd give him up if David West (or even Emeka Okafor - he can play the 4) is also included. The details would be complicated due to BYC restrictions, but with so many young cheap players, plus Joel, Blake and Outlaw on cheap, short term contracts, something could be worked out that works under the CBA and gives NO what they want in return. The real question is will George Shinn be willing to give up his one and only superstar that he practically bankrupted himself to convince to sign an extension a little over a year ago?

BNM

 

[Buzz Killington]

I'd imagine CP3 would want to compete for a ring. Ain't happening in OKC, even with Durant and him together.

 

[BBert]

Fernandez, Bayless, Outlaw and Miller for CP3? <--- Would you do this? Would it be enough or would we actually have to give up one of our big three to get CP3? Of course hypothetical, just wanted to feel out the opinions regarding CP3

I would absolutely do that without blinking. And throw in picks and cash. And I have a higher regard for Rudy than most (Rudy is a star, and is mostly wasted on the Blazers).

 

[Nikolokolus]

CP3 + Peja for Oden/Miller/Blake/Outlaw/Webster. It works after Miller's trade restriction thing subsides.

Wouldn't the whole point of getting CP3 be to pair him up with Oden? Just saying.

 

[magnifier661]

I would absolutely do that without blinking. And throw in picks and cash. And I have a higher regard for Rudy than most (Rudy is a star, and is mostly wasted on the Blazers).

What if they countered and said, "Replace Fernandez and Bayless for Aldridge" would you do it then? I don't think contracts work, since Aldridge is ppp, but with our cap genius at work, I'm sure we could work it out.

 

[RR7]

Disagree. We have who, Bayless and Rudy as cheap young talent? Assuming we aren't moving, or trying not to move one of our big 3? And then some euro prospects? They have Green, Harden and Westbrook thety could easily throw into the trade. They also have an 8 million dollar expiring contract in Etan Thomas. and 8 million in cap space. Etan and their cap space could completely take on Peja's contract from NO's. They also have a likely lottery pick they can throw in, as opposed to our mid to late 20s. And they can offer PHXs unprotected pick as well, whcih could be about where ours is.
For NO, do you take Green, Westbrook, Harden, maybe Mullens or Ibaka possibly, as well as a lottery pick, and dumping Peja? Or Bayless, Rudy and Outlaw?

 

[illmatic99]

Isn't Peja a Poison Pill contract? He has a fat contract, and is hurt most of the time. But if we had to take him to get Paul, I guess you do it. Although I wouldn't include Oden. The reasoning being, if Chris Paul can get Tyson Chandler to average about 10 points a game, how many would Greg average working with him? 25+?

Peja still has a PPP? Hmm.. I wasn't aware.

But, yeah. I think it would take at least one of the big three to land CP3. And I would assume taking on Peja (or any other albatross contract) would be required as well.

I'd trade GO for Paul, seeing as how Paul is now a top 5 player (something I don't ever see GO being).

A Paul-Roy-Aldridge trio would be a frightening sight for opposing teams.

 

[crowTrobot]

(Rudy is a star, and is mostly wasted on the Blazers).

is that why he always looks sleepy?

 

[magnifier661]

Disagree. We have who, Bayless and Rudy as cheap young talent? Assuming we aren't moving, or trying not to move one of our big 3? And then some euro prospects? They have Green, Harden and Westbrook thety could easily throw into the trade. They also have an 8 million dollar expiring contract in Etan Thomas. and 8 million in cap space. Etan and their cap space could completely take on Peja's contract from NO's. They also have a likely lottery pick they can throw in, as opposed to our mid to late 20s. And they can offer PHXs unprotected pick as well, whcih could be about where ours is.
For NO, do you take Green, Westbrook, Harden, maybe Mullens or Ibaka possibly, as well as a lottery pick, and dumping Peja? Or Bayless, Rudy and Outlaw?

Or what about Aldridge, Miller, Mile's terrible contract and Outlaw for CP3 and taking on Peja's terrible contract? I think that's far more valuable than that.

 

[Natebishop3]

I've said it before, but I'd trade Roy for Paul.

Paul
Rudy
Batum
Aldridge
Oden

Tell me that lineup doesn't win championships.

 

[magnifier661]

Peja still has a PPP? Hmm.. I wasn't aware.

But, yeah. I think it would take at least one of the big three to land CP3. And I would assume taking on Peja (or any other albatross contract) would be required as well.

I'd trade GO for Paul, seeing as how Paul is now a top 5 player (something I don't ever see GO being).

A Paul-Roy-Aldridge trio would be a frightening sight for opposing teams.

Peja and Aldridge's PPP are the same. They would negate the other.

 

[BenDavis503]

I would trade anyone on our team except Oden, Roy for Paul.

 

[Natebishop3]

I would trade anyone on our team except Oden, Roy for Paul.

Who would replace Aldridge? It's not like we have a plethora of power forwards on our team. We do, however, have a number of shooting guards. One of which, Rudy, could easily start on our team or others in the NBA.

 

[magnifier661]

Who would replace Aldridge? It's not like we have a plethora of power forwards on our team. We do, however, have a number of shooting guards. One of which, Rudy, could easily start on our team or others in the NBA.

They would have to include Ike Diogu then.

 

[Natebishop3]

They would have to include Ike Diogu then.

haha... how about Okafor?

 

[andalusian]

I would trade anyone on our team except Oden, Roy for Paul.

Pretty much my opinion as well.

LMA, Rudy, JB, Travis, Blake, Webster, Cap space, cash, picks and... for CP3 and bad contract.

You keep Roy, you keep Oden and hopefully, Batum - and you are in business for ever and ever.

I just hope CP3 can handle giving Oden some of the PG duties, at least on the break.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Fernandez, Bayless, Outlaw and Miller for CP3? <--- Would you do this?

Hell fucking YES. Who the fuck wouldn't? That would be a steal that would make the Pau Gasol trade to the Lakers look like an fair trade by comparison.

Would it be enough or would we actually have to give up one of our big three to get CP3? Of course hypothetical, just wanted to feel out the opinions regarding CP3

Hell no it wouldn't be enough. We'd have to give up more. In my mind we start by taking Roy and Oden off the table. If this really is a firesale, we don't start by offering our two biggest assets. Beside, I don't think Shinn would want Roy. He'd basically be giving up one max. contract unhappy superstar for another max. contract superstar who will also be unhappy. He would want Oden, but I'd refuse. Anybody else he wants, in any combination he wants is fine with me. I'd also take back any contracts he wanted to dump and wouldn't bat an eye. Peja, sure, David West, Emaka Okafor, James Posey, anyone you want to dump, I'd take.

This is Chris Paul - 24 year old superstar. He led the league in assists last season where David West, Rasaul Butler and an over the hill Peja Stojakovioc where his top targets. Imagine what he could do if you surround him with talent. It's a no brainer. You call up George Shinn and tell him, take anyone you want not named Roy or Oden. Give us Paul and dump anyone else you want on us and if he agrees you thank him profusely and give him $3 million cash and next year's 1st rounder for his trouble.

BNM

 

[BBert]

What if they countered and said, "Replace Fernandez and Bayless for Aldridge" would you do it then? I don't think contracts work, since Aldridge is ppp, but with our cap genius at work, I'm sure we could work it out.

You know, I'd have to consider a Roy - Paul swap, but it just feels like trading LaMarcus would 'water down' the team more than trading Roy, even though Roy is valued higher than LaMarcus. The reason being, Paul would provide a alot of what Roy does now, with the added advantage of being the best PG in the history of the Blazers. Chris Paul = Roy+Miller+Blake+Bayless. While trading LaMarcus leaves us with NO viable PF at all. I think Paul/LaMarcus/Oden is a better lineup than Roy/LaMarcus/Oden or Paul/Roy/Oden, and no PF.

 

[Natebishop3]

You know, I'd have to consider a Roy - Paul swap, but it just feels like trading LaMarcus would 'water down' the team more than trading Roy, even though Roy is valued higher than LaMarcus. The reason being, Paul would provide a alot of what Roy does now, with the added advantage of being the best PG in the history of the Blazers. Chris Paul = Roy+Miller+Blake+Bayless. While trading LaMarcus leaves us with NO viable PF at all. I think Paul/LaMarcus/Oden is a better lineup than Roy/LaMarcus/Oden or Paul/Roy/Oden, and no PF.

Yeah that's pretty much what I feel as well.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Or what about Aldridge, Miller, Mile's terrible contract and Outlaw for CP3 and taking on Peja's terrible contract? I think that's far more valuable than that.

You can't trade Miles' contract, we lost all right to him when we initiated the medical retirement.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Who would replace Aldridge? It's not like we have a plethora of power forwards on our team. We do, however, have a number of shooting guards. One of which, Rudy, could easily start on our team or others in the NBA.

God, if we had Oden, Roy and Paul, I could start at power forward and we'd still win multiple championships. Seriously, worst case Juwan Howard becomes our short term starting PF until we can find someone better (or Pendergraph gets healthy and proves he doesn't totally suck).

Or, we could take back David West or Emeka Okafor.

I'd offer him, but with his new, big extension, I'm not sure Shinn would want Aldridge. H'ed probably prefer smaller and/or shorter contracts (Outlaw, Joel, Blake) in return.

BNM

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Some consider Aldridge overpaid . . . I don't think Shinn would want him.

For Chris Paul, you would have the entire league making offers. Given Shinn's mentality (save money) I would think he would be looking for expiring contracts, young cheap talent and dumping his bad contracts.

Rudy and Nic are cheap for a couple more years, Blazers have some expiring contracts and Allen has money . . . but genreally I would think Ptd would be a longshot if there were a CP3 sweepstakes.

 

[Natebishop3]

God, if we had Oden, Roy and Paul, I could start at power forward and we'd still win multiple championships. Seriously, worst case Juwan Howard becomes our short term starting PF until we can find someone better (or Pendergraph gets healthy and proves he doesn't totally suck).

Or, we could take back David West or Emeka Okafor.

I'd offer him, but with his new, big extension, I'm not sure Shinn would want Aldridge. H'ed probably prefer smaller and/or shorter contracts (Outlaw, Joel, Blake) in return.

BNM

I'm just not convinced that NOR would accept table scraps for Paul. They will need someone of value that they can market. Someone like Roy.

 

[BenDavis503]

Who would replace Aldridge? It's not like we have a plethora of power forwards on our team. We do, however, have a number of shooting guards. One of which, Rudy, could easily start on our team or others in the NBA.

I would start Joel and Greg.
Then get a couple cheap,. Nathan Jawai type players to back them up. Keep Howard.
Bring back the Twin Towers!

Paul
Rudy
Roy
Oden
Joel

 

[andalusian]

The following are the recent coach of the year winners:

2008-09 Mike Brown Cleveland
2007-08 Byron Scott New Orleans
2006-07 Sam Mitchell Toronto
2005-06 Avery Johnson Dallas

I think MM is going to vote Nate for COY this year.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Some consider Aldridge overpaid . . . I don't think Shinn would want him.

For Chris Paul, you have the entire league making offers. Given Shinn's mentality (save money) I would think he would be looking for expiring contracts

Check - Joel, Blake and Outlaw.

young cheap talent

Check- Bayless, Batum, Rudy, Webster take em all if you want em.

and dumping his bad contracts.

Check - Paul Allen has said he'd be willing to pay the luxury tax to win a title. Adding Chris Paul to Brandon Roy, Greg Oden and LaMarcus Aldridge would give him a legitimate shot and winning multiple titles.

BNM

 

[Natebishop3]

Honestly, I don't think Paul is going anywhere. He's locked in. He's going to be there for a while. Unless he starts sand bagging (ala Vince Carter and the Raptors) I highly doubt they will trade him.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Check - Joel, Blake and Outlaw.



Check- Bayless, Batum, Rudy, Webster take em all if you want em.



Check - Paul Allen has said he'd be willing to pay the luxury tax to win a title. Adding Chris Paul to Brandon Roy, Greg Oden and LaMarcus Aldridge would give him a legitimate shot and winning multiple titles.

BNM

I love your thought on the complete cycle if Webster was included for Paul (sounds like KP wanted Paul instead of Webster back then).

IMO, I don't think the Blazers have enough. Milwaukie could offer Jennings, Chicago could offer Rose . . . I don't really know off the top of my head the best young talent out there, but shouldn't Shinn be looking for a young star that he doesn't have to pay top dollar for a couple years.

But yes, Paul on the Blazers would be awesome (I see him as star, a real team player, and a good character guy)

 

[Idog1976]

CP3 + Peja for Oden/Miller/Blake/Outlaw/Webster. It works after Miller's trade restriction thing subsides.

ODEN wtf over? ARe you insane? Double up in the back court with Paul and Roy and kill our front court? Fuck that. Roy goes over Oden in this trade. If we are talking about a trade for Dwight Howard sure trade Oden, otherwise forget it.