Greg Anthony says Lillard's the best

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This was the tweet I was waiting for. Greg Anthony is the one analyst I respect

 

[blue32]

F-ya! nice

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Don't tell Dame. Tell Greg to edit his tweet so it doesn't link to Dame's twitter. Dame has used this as wood on the fire. Don't slow it down now, Dame!

 

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@fullcourtprez: Damian Lillard's last 6 games:

28.3 PPG, 6.7 AST, 4.7 REB, 50% FG, 48% 3PT

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Last night, Damian Lillard became the 2nd player in NBA history with 40 points, 10 assists, and eight 3's in a game.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

@fullcourtprez: Damian Lillard's last 6 games:

28.3 PPG, 6.7 AST, 4.7 REB, 50% FG, 48% 3PT

Damian shooting just a touch over 40% from 3P this year. Guys like Trevor Ariza, Trey Burke, Kobe Bryant, Brandon Jennings, Josh Smith, Andrew Wiggins aren't even shooting 40% overall from the floor.

 

[MarAzul]

Oh geez, I hardly think that is real. Damian is a good guard, but hardly a top point guard. A top Point Guard can get an assist by setting up each of his team mates in turn. A good bucket attempt for all his teammates on demand. I don't see this aspect of the game from Lillard at all. No pick n roll with Lamarcus like we saw from Rudy.

Remember how the MVP Steve Nash could drop dimes on demand? Like 24 a game, a thing of beauty. If Lillard would learn that trade with the talent on this team, gawd this team would be awesome.

 

[Strenuus]

Oh geez, I hardly think that is real. Damian is a good guard, but hardly a top point guard. A top Point Guard can get an assist by setting up each of his team mates in turn. A good bucket attempt for all his teammates on demand. I don't see this aspect of the game from Lillard at all. No pick n roll with Lamarcus like we saw from Rudy.

Remember how the MVP Steve Nash could drop dimes on demand? Like 24 a game, a thing of beauty. If Lillard would learn that trade with the talent on this team, gawd this team would be awesome.

uhh...

 

[dviss1]

Oh geez, I hardly think that is real. Damian is a good guard, but hardly a top point guard. A top Point Guard can get an assist by setting up each of his team mates in turn. A good bucket attempt for all his teammates on demand. I don't see this aspect of the game from Lillard at all. No pick n roll with Lamarcus like we saw from Rudy.

Remember how the MVP Steve Nash could drop dimes on demand? Like 24 a game, a thing of beauty. If Lillard would learn that trade with the talent on this team, gawd this team would be awesome.

Oh negative nancy. Just stop being a hater... Nash never played a LICK of D... It's why he'll NEVER win a title. We need Lillard to score. We like Lillard's scoring. Give it a rest... 24 dimes a game??? WTF are you talking about??

 

[GoBlazersGo]

Oh geez, I hardly think that is real. Damian is a good guard, but hardly a top point guard. A top Point Guard can get an assist by setting up each of his team mates in turn. A good bucket attempt for all his teammates on demand. I don't see this aspect of the game from Lillard at all. No pick n roll with Lamarcus like we saw from Rudy.

Remember how the MVP Steve Nash could drop dimes on demand? Like 24 a game, a thing of beauty. If Lillard would learn that trade with the talent on this team, gawd this team would be awesome.

"PUT THE COFFEE DOWN! COFFEE... IS FOR CLOSERS!"

 

[MarAzul]

Oh negative nancy. Just stop being a hater... Nash never played a LICK of D... It's why he'll NEVER win a title. We need Lillard to score. We like Lillard's scoring. Give it a rest...

Fine, you like what you wish. Playing D and playing PG on offense are not mutually exclusive skills.

But I will totally disagree that we need the Lillard to "score". We need the team to score and the best way to do that is use the skills on the team to the maximum advantage. Lillard has skills yet to be tapped and they is no good reason for that to be the law.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Oh geez, I hardly think that is real. Damian is a good guard, but hardly a top point guard. A top Point Guard can get an assist by setting up each of his team mates in turn. A good bucket attempt for all his teammates on demand. I don't see this aspect of the game from Lillard at all. No pick n roll with Lamarcus like we saw from Rudy.

Remember how the MVP Steve Nash could drop dimes on demand? Like 24 a game, a thing of beauty. If Lillard would learn that trade with the talent on this team, gawd this team would be awesome.

Steve Nash's first year in the NBA - 138 assists
Lillard's --------------------------- 531 assists

2nd season

Nash - 262
Lillard - 457

3rd season

Nash - 219
Lillard - 188

So yes, in their 3rd seasons Nash was a better point guard because he got more assists.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Steve Nash's first year in the NBA - 138 assists
Lillard's --------------------------- 531 assists

2nd season

Nash - 262
Lillard - 457

3rd season

Nash - 219
Lillard - 188

So yes, in their 3rd seasons Nash was a better point guard because he got more assists.

But we are only 30 games into the season, I wonder if Lillard's assist numbers will go up?

 

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Steve Nash's first year in the NBA - 138 assists
Lillard's --------------------------- 531 assists

2nd season

Nash - 262
Lillard - 457

3rd season

Nash - 219
Lillard - 188

So yes, in their 3rd seasons Nash was a better point guard because he got more assists.

Although third season for Lillard ain't over yet. I have no doubt Lillard will pass him too.

Way to blow the Nash vs Lillard argument out of the water!

 

[julius]

Although third season for Lillard ain't over yet. I have no doubt Lillard will pass him too.

Way to blow the Nash vs Lillard argument out of the water!

I think the comparison being made was during Nash's peak years as the leagues best PG, not the first three years in the league were he barely sniffed the court until his 3rd year.
AND his third year was the strike shortened year, so he played 40 games, not 82.

 

[Sinobas]

There aren't many awesome passers. Guys like Johnson, Stockton, Nash and Kidd are a rare breed.

 

[julius]

Plus, Nash shot 50-40-90 4 times in his career (almost 7 times actually).


That's a pretty high standard

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think the comparison being made was during Nash's peak years as the leagues best PG, not the first three years in the league were he barely sniffed the court until his 3rd year.
AND his third year was the strike shortened year, so he played 40 games, not 82.

Do you think that Lillard is currently in his peak years in the NBA?

Yes or No, has Lillard gotten better each year in the NBA so far?

Do you think Lillard will get 31 more assists in the next 10 games?

My point is valid.

 

[Hobbesarable]

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This was the tweet I was waiting for. Greg Anthony is the one analyst I respect

I love your takes, bro. But I don't need Greg Anthony telling me Dame is the best. I already know that!

 

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I think the comparison being made was during Nash's peak years as the leagues best PG, not the first three years in the league were he barely sniffed the court until his 3rd year.
AND his third year was the strike shortened year, so he played 40 games, not 82.

But there ain't a prime Nash in the NBA right now. The comment by Anthony is on the current NBA, not ESPN Classic.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Oh geez, I hardly think that is real. Damian is a good guard, but hardly a top point guard. A top Point Guard can get an assist by setting up each of his team mates in turn. A good bucket attempt for all his teammates on demand. I don't see this aspect of the game from Lillard at all. No pick n roll with Lamarcus like we saw from Rudy.

Remember how the MVP Steve Nash could drop dimes on demand? Like 24 a game, a thing of beauty. If Lillard would learn that trade with the talent on this team, gawd this team would be awesome.

Something tells me you forgot the green font. Nash's career high was 22 assists in a game, he did it one time. So, 24 apg never happened, not even close. His career high for a season was 11.6 apg.

I thought you may have been confusing Nash and Stockton. Stockton racked up a lot more assists than Nash. His career best was 14.5 apg. He did have multiple 24+ assist games over the course of his 19-year NBA career, but even the great John Stockton ever had more than one 24+ assist game in any single season.

Magic Johnson is the only player to record two 24+ assist games in a single season. He had two games of exactly 24 assists during the 1990-91 season.

There have only been 12 - 24+ assist games in the history of the NBA - as noted, none of them by Steve Nash.

Yeah so, Dame averaging 24 apg would be cool, but it would also be cool if he averaged 64 ppg and the team went 82-0, but those things aren't happening either. Lillard's good, but he's not that good.

BNM

 

[Flipper]

Do you think that Lillard is currently in his peak years in the NBA?

Yes or No, has Lillard gotten better each year in the NBA so far?

Do you think Lillard will get 31 more assists in the next 10 games?

My point is valid.

QFT

 

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Something tells me you forgot the green font. Nash's career high was 22 assists in a game, he did it one time. So, 24 apg never happened, not even close. His career high for a season was 11.6 apg.

I thought you may have been confusing Nash and Stockton. Stockton racked up a lot more assists than Nash. His career best was 14.5 apg. He did have multiple 24+ assist games over the course of his 19-year NBA career, but even the great John Stockton ever had more than one 24+ assist game in any single season.

Magic Johnson is the only player to record two 24+ assist games in a single season. He had two games of exactly 24 assists during the 1990-91 season.

There have only been 12 - 24+ assist games in the history of the NBA - as noted, none of them by Steve Nash.

Yeah so, Dame averaging 24 apg would be cool, but it would also be cool if he averaged 64 ppg and the team went 82-0, but those things aren't happening either. Lillard's good, but he's not that good.

BNM

It's weird because Anthony was talking about the current NBA and they bring up past NBA players. Well if that's the case, I can name Magic, Stockton, and Oscar as easily better than Nash.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I knew we should have drafted Nash instead of Lillard but you guys disagreed with me.

 

[Hobbesarable]

It's weird because Anthony was talking about the current NBA and they bring up past NBA players. Well if that's the case, I can name Magic, Stockton, and Oscar as easily better than Nash.

If we are going back that far, then we may as well go all the way. Bob Cousy, baby! He was a pg leading his team to 6 championships.

 

[julius]

Do you think that Lillard is currently in his peak years in the NBA?

Yes or No, has Lillard gotten better each year in the NBA so far?

Do you think Lillard will get 31 more assists in the next 10 games?

My point is valid.

I think you're missing my point. Comparing Nash's peak to Lillard now is just as bad as comparing Lillard now to Nash's first three years. It doesn't say anything about either player's rank as best PG of their time.

 

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I think you're missing my point. Comparing Nash's peak to Lillard now is just as bad as comparing Lillard now to Nash's first three years. It doesn't say anything about either player's rank as best PG of their time.

So you agree that Lillard is the best PG in the league right now?

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm not sure who Dame reminds me of the most (Porter, but better I guess?) but it doesn't fucking matter. He's a helluva player and outside of "The Brow" who went 1st overall in that draft, he's clearly the second best player and Neil managed to get him at six.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think you're missing my point. Comparing Nash's peak to Lillard now is just as bad as comparing Lillard now to Nash's first three years. It doesn't say anything about either player's rank as best PG of their time.

I'm comparing 1st three years to 1st three years. What years should I use to get an accurate comparison of each player's 1st 3 years in the NBA?

 

[julius]

So you agree that Lillard is the best PG in the league right now?

I think PG wise, it's still Chris Paul, but it's closer than it used to be.