Greg Oden is the next "Rik Smits or Z"??

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

It begs the question...if Oden does develop into an amazing center and deserves 35+ minutes a game, where does that leave Joel? As much as I love Joel, I think after Oden blossoms into the center we want, he gets traded. I seriously doubt he'd want to accept less money and playing time as much as he loves Portland and honestly, he's a great starting center for any other team.
 
It begs the question...if Oden does develop into an amazing center and deserves 35+ minutes a game, where does that leave Joel? As much as I love Joel, I think after Oden blossoms into the center we want, he gets traded. I seriously doubt he'd want to accept less money and playing time as much as he loves Portland and honestly, he's a great starting center for any other team.

Why on Earth would Przy be traded? The one thing that Oden has proven more than anything else is that he tends to miss games with injury. Having Przy behind him is crucial IMO.
 
I don't think Przybilla would start on "any" team, but at least half the teams.

Portland owns his Bird rights, so they can offer him more than anybody else. I suspect Paul Allen will find it pretty easy to lay out the cash for the best backup center in the league.

As for minutes and getting a starting job, well, Przybilla has never been a big-minute player. Even he must realize that at his best he's a 25 mpg guy.

You try to play him 35 mpg regularly, and he'll get injured or tired. How many times can a 7 footer be expected to dive for loose balls in a season?
 
There's probably only about 5-7 teams that wouldn't want Pryz to start for them. Would it really be worth it to have a somewhat expensive backup for "just in case"? There is a thing called salary cap and with all the young talent we have to re-sign, I'm not sure if Joel will be part of it when he's not necessarily needed. If Oden becomes even close to what we expect him to be, he'll be getting 35-40 minutes a game. That means Joel will get 8-13 minutes unless Oden gets in foul trouble. I'm not sure he's willing to accept such little play time.
 
Last edited:
There's probably only about 5-7 teams that wouldn't want Pryz to start for them. Would it really be worth it to have a somewhat expensive backup for "just in case"? There is a thing called salary cap and with all the young talent we have to re-sign, I'm not sure if Joel will be part of it when he's not necessarily needed. If Oden becomes even close to what we expect him to be, he'll be getting 35-40 minutes a game. That means Joel will get 8-13 minutes unless Oden gets in foul trouble. I'm not sure he's willing to accept such little play time.

We could have the twin towers at times too. Offensively that might not be great, but imagine the D! We could certainly play big that way. :)
 
Would it really be worth it to have a somewhat expensive backup for "just in case"?

Yes. Neither Joel nor Greg have proven to be ironmen to this point in their careers. Having both of them, has us covered if/when one is injured. Also, when both are healthy, neither needs to play 40 minutes. Thus, foul trouble is less of an issue, as is fatigue - which reduces the chance of injury. There are PLENTY of overpaid big men in this league that make more AND produce less than Joel. I think he's a vital piece for this team's championship aspirations.

There is a thing called salary cap and with all the young talent we have to re-sign, I'm not sure if Joel will be part of it when he's not necessarily needed.

There's also this thing called Bird Rights. The Blazers have the Bird Rights on all their young players, plus Joel, etc. They can re-sign them all for any amount up the max. contract without concern for the salary cap. In fact, Paul Allen can max out all 15 roster spots if he so chooses. He wouldn't, as that doesn't make sense, but anyone he wants to keep, he will ragardless of the salary cap.

If Oden becomes even close to what we expect him to be, he'll be getting 35-40 minutes a game. That means Joel will get 8-13 minutes unless Oden gets in foul trouble. I'm not sure he's willing to accept such little play time.

I don't think Oden will ever be a 40 MPG, 82-game per season player. Few players are. In fact, there isn't a single player in the league this season averaging 40 MPG. Given Oden's injury and foul troubles, I just don't think that's realistic. There's also very few players who are averaging > 35 MPG who haven't missed any games. Point being, there will be plenty of games over the course of the season where the Blazers back-up center will get more than 15 minutes, and in many cases more than 20 minutes.

Joel has never been the type to cause problems over PT. He didn't complain earlier in the season when Greg was starting. In fact, he thrived - knowing he could come in off the bench and be aggressive without worrying about foul trouble, fatigue, etc. If both players are healthy, and Oden lives up to expectations, I could see Oden getting about 32 - 34 minutes which leaves 14 - 16 for the back-up center. If you factor in injuries, foul trouble and an occasional twin towers line-up, it wouldn't be difficult for the Blazers back-up center to get > 20 MPG. Which seems about right for Joel - especially if we're talking 2 - 3 years from now when Joel's current contract is up and he's 32 - 33 years old.

BNM
 
Don't forget that Nate has (briefly) experimented with a twin-towers lineup of Greg and Joel. This isn't so far fetched if LaMarcus is in foul trouble or injured, because Joel actually guards the best low-post player, be he PF or C anyway, and Greg should also be capable of guarding the more lumbering of PFs.

One of them should consider developing a jump shot, though.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top